Nonpretentious, Liberal LAC's

[bigp9998]

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A $2,220 increase may not seem like a lot when viewed against the $44,330 already paid for a Middlebury education, but think about it this way: The 2006 median household income was $46,326. The tuition for one year of Middlebury now exceeds the total income of over 50% of the households in the US. Though Middlebury was never cheap to begin with, increasing the tuition so dramatically is simply closing the door to that many more students who come from families where a 5.25 percent increase makes a difference. </p>

<p>Middlebury prides itself on its “diversity,” after all, 30 percent of the class of 2010 were minorities or international students and 42 percent of students receive financial aid. But if you look at the average aid package ($26,732) that means that the average student on financial aid can still pay $17,598. No family making under $50,000 can afford to put this much money toward a college education. So a very generous estimation would be that 20 percent of the student body comes from that 50 percent of the country who makes an average living. Where does this put Middlebury? Not in a diverse situation, that’s for sure. Why are we moving toward more elitism? The income gap is diverging and every time Middlebury raises its tuition it is excluding another fraction of the population that just can’t work out paying an extra thousand dollars or so. We need to ask ourselves, what the value of an institution like Middlebury is when it is educating and enabling only the children of the upper class - these kids were already guaranteed some level of security and success anyway."

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<p>Sorry, but what does that have to do with the Middlebury student body being “icky”?</p>

[Illinois_Dad]

<p>Re: “Evergreen has an icky student body”</p>

<p>I realize this “icky” talk shouldn’t be taken too seriously, but as the parent of a son who loves the sound of Evergreen (from CTCL) but hasn’t visited, I’d be curious to hear any specifics of this alleged ickiness. Do you mean eccentric? Full of themselves? Self-absorbed?</p>

[emeraldkity4]

<p>icky of course hasnt been defined- but as Middlebury doesnt offer 100% of aid, even loans, it follows that many of the students at Middlebury has some where they can access thousands of tuition dollars.
Evergreen as a public school is much less expensive.
Middlebury may attract another sort of student- the sort that categorizes students who attend a public liberal arts college as “icky” perhaps?
[THE</a> NEW RACISM ON CAMPUS](<a href=“http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/1989/02/13/71597/index.htm]THE”>THE NEW RACISM ON CAMPUS Racial outbreaks at colleges around the country are being met with policies that assure more -- and worse -- incidents in the future. - February 13, 1989)</p>

[arcadia]

<p>Middlebury is need blind AND meets 100% of demonstrated need.</p>

[emeraldkity4]

<p>*Middlebury is need blind AND meets 100% of demonstrated need.
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<p>thats right. :o i must have just been going by their use of PROFILE data</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/483088-huge-gap-between-fafsa-efc-actual-aid-help.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/483088-huge-gap-between-fafsa-efc-actual-aid-help.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Ds school that used PROFILE used FAFSA EFC</p>

[bigp9998]

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icky of course hasnt been defined- but as Middlebury doesnt offer 100% of aid, even loans, it follows that many of the students at Middlebury has some where they can access thousands of tuition dollars.
Evergreen as a public school is much less expensive.
Middlebury may attract another sort of student- the sort that categorizes students who attend a public liberal arts college as “icky” perhaps?
THE NEW RACISM ON CAMPUS

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<p>Your article is from 1989.</p>

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Middlebury may attract another sort of student- the sort that categorizes students who attend a public liberal arts college as “icky” perhaps?

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<p>Your reasoning for this being what? One random poster on an online forum?</p>

[cbreeze]

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My son’s best friend will be attending Chapman U. in Orange, CA next year. He’s a very bright, creative, quirky kid (facial hair, earring, tight jeans, leather jacket) and felt like he fit right in there. They are giving him a spectacular merit scholarship (he is NMF).

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<p>I visited Chapman many many years ago and it didn’t seem liberal to me and on top of that, it’s located in Orange County, home of the John Birch Society.</p>

[emeraldkity4]

<p>CC is hardly random- but then I dont think we’ve been introduced.
perhaps you can illuminate the inclusion of Middlebury on a thread to find non-pretentious CCs given that some have this opinion of the school
In the middle of nowhere
Really expensive
Maybe too preppy? or too elitist
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[oregon101]

<p>Well–not sure where this is all coming from–my D did graduate from Midd and we did not get any help financially. She has an amazing network of people from her education. Doors have opened. Many of her friends did get some $$ and ways to pay for Midd. I simply cannot say enough about their intelligent and wholesome student body. Do I wish that they gave Merit Aid? SURE!</p>

[oregon101]

<p>HMMMM—we sure are not living the “elite” lifestyle…</p>

[bigp9998]

<p>The Middlebury of today is far from elite and pretentious. Sure there are a few kids here and there who might be pretentious but 98% of the population is friendly and fun to be around. 30 years ago almost all students at top northeast schools were ultra wealthy and often elitist. That is not the case, with nearly half of students on financial aid today. That’s great in itself, but I consider it even cooler that it is pretty much impossible to tell who is on aid and who isn’t. Nobody cares.</p>

[great_lakes_mom]

<p>Was just on a drive with my two, who attend U Puget Sound and Beloit. They happened to mention not liking the extra hip pretentiousness of Lewis and Clark as well as another sort of pretentiousness at Macallister. I wouldn’t call U Puget so squeaky clean, though is very pretty. I haven’t personally seen other west coast campuses, though, as I live in the Midwest. Puget has proved fun, interesting, and has a positive vibe about it. It is down to earth and friendly in a way that immediately made my D comfortable. </p>

<p>Much of this is so subjective. What tour guide you get, or the experience of one friend rather than a more general sampling. I loved Macallister on our visit years ago. I can’t even compare my two girls’ schools in terms of rigor. One is taking a very challenging course load in something I’d never have imagined, the other is broadening her knowledge in subjects where she entered with a strong ground level knowledge.</p>