Northeastern vs. UMich?

<p>Hello my fellow high school seniors,
So far I have heard back from two of the thirteen universities I have applied to.</p>

<p>I am concerned about
school prestige (it’s like poison),
the cost,
and whether I’ll be able to get a job after I graduate.</p>

<p>Here are my Options:</p>

<li><p>Northeastern University
-6 Year PharmD
-Honours College
(smaller class size, housing priority)
-40K Scholarship in total
(not 40K ‘per’ year. 40K for the whole undergrad…)</p></li>
<li><p>University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
-College of Engineering, probably Computer Engineering</p></li>
</ol>

<p>and I’m waiting to hear back from
Brown
Cornell
UPenn
Johns Hopkins
Berkeley
UCLA
and Other canadian safeties :)</p>

<p>My parents are willing to ‘sell their house’ to send me to an Ivy…
but I don’t want them to be broke -_-</p>

<p>so What should I do for Northeastern vs. UMich?</p>

<p>and If I get into other schools, (all majoring in Math / Biology) is it worth going there?</p>

<p>Thankyou for your input.</p>

<p>Do you want to be an Engineer or a Pharmacist? Not that it matters between Michigan and Northeastern since Michigan also has an excellent 6-year Pharmacy program. A $40,000 (over 4 years) scholarship to Northeastern makes it roughly as expensive as Michigan, so cost is probably not an issue. Between those two, I would recommend Michigan.</p>

<p>The other schools on your list are all excellent, but very different. Cal, Cornell, Michigan, UCLA and, to a lesser extent, Penn, are all quite similar. But Brown and Johns Hopkins are very different from each other and very different from the rest. If admitted into any of those schools, you should visit them as well as Michigan and chose the school you like best. </p>

<p>By the way, Michigan also has excellent Math and Biology departments and transfering from Engineering to LSA at Michigan is pretty automatic.</p>

<p>1) you like engineering more:
- Michigan Engineering >> Northeaster Pharmacy
- you can take honor courses even if you are not in the honor program (no honor program in engineering; engineering classes are smaller than LSA)</p>

<p>2) you like pharmacy more:
- you can still do pre-Pharm at Michigan as an engineering major... but you have to apply to Pharmacy school in two years and it's competitive;
- Michigan PharmD > Northeastern PharmD</p>

<p>3) Michigan($40,591) is the same or cheaper than Northeastern($45,479) even with the $40K scholarship over 4 years.</p>

<p>Why would you be a Pharmacist at one school and a Computer Engineer at another? Think about that.</p>

<p>
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By the way, Michigan also has excellent Math and Biology departments

[/quote]

Berkeley's stronger across the board. 8^)</p>

<p>OP, no one can answer your question.</p>

<p>UCB, allow me to blow a Raspberry your way! hehe! What can I say, when I have no substance or argument to defend my position, I must resort to the sublime...or is it the ridiculous!</p>

<p>Awww, I was licking my chops for a good fight. ;) You aren't going to at least come back with a Hawkette-style data dump?</p>

<p>"You aren't going to at least come back with a Hawkette-style data dump."</p>

<p>Hehe! I like data, but I do not use them to prove my point. Besides, what data will support Michigan vs Cal in Biology, Computer Engineering or Math? Michigan is ranked very high in all those fields, but Cal is ranked higher. I suppose if the OP wishes to study Pharmacy, Michigan has a program, Cal does not. Seriously, though, the settings between Cal and Michigan could not be more different. The OP should visit the schools he is accepted into before chosing the campus that is right for him. Academically, all of those schools are excellent.</p>

<p>
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You aren't going to at least come back with a Hawkette-style data dump?

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Alexandre wouldn't know how to do that; he was only trained at a state school and a lower Ivy.</p>

<p>Hehe! Good one GoBlue. I associated with the "wrong crowd"!</p>

<p>I think it's hard to realize just how important fit is until you go some place that just doesn't feel right. I always assumed that I'd be more or less fine with whatever place I ended up, but my most recent grad school visit made me realize there are parts of this country I just wasn't meant to live in.</p>

<p>I'm also confused about why you would be an engineering major at michigan and a pharmacy major at northeastern.</p>

<p>I go to northeastern. I really like it, and I've seen people get ridiculous co-op jobs (harvard medical school, goldman sachs, various major corporations). The academics are decent, Boston is a great place to live.</p>

<p>But if I were you, Northeastern would probably be near the bottom of my list.</p>

<p>Alexandre, you say that Berkeley, Michigan and Cornell are very different from John Hopkins, Brown and the rest. Can you tell me more about the environment differences?</p>

<p>I would say go to Northeastern, with the economy co-op is a very good bet for you. At companies where you co-op, 50% of them eventually offer you a job there so you will be better off than graduating without any work experience. Co-op is just as good as prestige.</p>

<p>Also with the state of Michigan and crash of GM, Ford etc.,,, I'd stay away from Michigan</p>

<p>^^^ " . . . a Hawkette-style data dump"</p>

<p>I'll play the Hawkette role:</p>

<p>Michigan football - 500 wins, 190 losses, 15 ties, 72% winning percentage
Cal-Berkeley football - 333 wins, 353 losses, 15 ties, 49% winning percentage</p>

<p>Michigan, obviously.</p>

<p>(Love ya, Hawkette ;) )</p>

<p>Hey Thankyou for all of your input <3<3<3<3<3</p>

<p>I live in Canada, so it's impossible for me to visit :'(</p>

<p>I applied to Brown because I adore their 'open curriculum' and 'small class size'...</p>

<p>About engineering and pharmacy, it's because there isn't any subject I don't like.
I like math, chem, physics, some history stuff.. I like everything :D</p>

<p>So I applied to Brown, Cornell Upenn JHS - MAth
and Berkeley / UCLA - Chem/Bio Major.</p>

<p>I dont really know what I like :(</p>

<p>But I know I kind of don't want HUGE class size - so berkeley is prob.ly out.
(I applied cuz my sis goes to berkeley and she recommended it)</p>

<p>BTW although I'm an INTERNATIONAL, would I be able to do pharmD at UMich?</p>

<p>nicorobin90, don't count out Northeastern, just letting you know that
I know tons of people who go to NEU and the co-op program works wonders if you're not planning on going to graduate school</p>

<p>Argghhhhh..........................</p>

<p>I love NEU's Co-op it's .... 'very nice' I'll leave it at that..</p>

<p>About pharmacy school,
I just checked my mail box and I received an acceptance letter from
Albany College of Pharmacy
Six Year PharmD
Presidential Scholarship - $12000 per year.</p>

<p>So to go to ACP it'll cost about $20,000 per year which is so cheap for an international.</p>

<p>But ACP is a small school and doesn't have NEU's Co-op....</p>

<p>Wow.. It's so hard to decide :(</p>

<p>International applicant ?
never mind, I see that you are</p>

<p>I think I'll go with NEU...
but I'll wait till April to see all of my options.
Thanks a lot everyone <3</p>