<p>My permit expired, so no driving for me. Oh, and even when I did, you are correct. But thanks for asking ;). Income was indeed recorded because I do have a job. Nice try, but I literaly do not break any law.</p>
<p>That aside, I still don’t see the issue with not drinking if you can be social otherwise. If you don’t like the taste, any illusory benefit can’t justify the consumption in my opinion.</p>
<p>Dude, you’ve broken the law countless times, but menial ones no one cares about. Stop embarassing yourself here.</p>
<p>You’ve only crossed streets at crosswalks or stoplights you entire life (jaywalking).</p>
<p>You’ve never gambled or “wagered” on anything using real money, ever.</p>
<p>You listed your ENTIRE income on your taxes. (note: not just your job which EVERYONE LISTS b/c its easily traceable. I’m talking noting any gifts and their monetary values, and money given to you by anyone. No one tracks this or does this.)</p>
<p>You’ve used your turn signal every time. (lol).</p>
<p>You’ve always stopped 40 feet before a railroad crossing.</p>
<p>You’ve never illegally downloaded anything.</p>
<p>You’ve never watched any copywrited material on youtube posted by somebody else (note: you may not even realize that you have. And despite ignorance, is still a crime).</p>
<p>You’ve never littered, accidentally or otherwise.</p>
<p>Never used a phone while driving.</p>
<p>In some states oral sex is illegal. You’ve never given nor received.</p>
<p>Some states premarital sex is illegal. (MN comes to mind).</p>
<p>I’m sure I can find some archaic laws from your state you’ve broken repeatedly from dumblaws.com as well. Sure, no one enforces them, that is the point. And at my university, I can belch beer from my underage mouth in a cop’s face and not have any repercussions. But anyway, you sicken me Baelor you degenerate criminal.</p>
<p>Sure, I mean I think consumption of alcohol is actually a part of the Catholic Mass =], so they’d not <em>forbid it</em>. </p>
<p>I think the difference lies in consuming it for fun. Whatever the Bible says, I know for a fact that different groups of Christians, etc, interpret the “spirit of the Bible” differently, and in a sense organize into groups with specific interpretations, which may include discouraging, if not prohibiting, alcohol consumption.</p>
<p>But that’s fair, if you’re saying to just try it sparingly if the given individual hasn’t really given the matter much thought/doesn’t even know what to make of his/her religious beliefs, then I can agree with you.</p>
<p>It depends on the college you go to. I have my own group of mostly-dry friends and I’m also friends with another group that does drink. No one really cares in college.</p>
<p>OP
My S’s is at a school where alcohol is everywhere, especially on game days. He, like you, chooses not to drink. It’s a decision he made a long time ago. He’s had no trouble making friends, being involved, tailgaiting, etc … his group’s just sober while they’re grilling their burgers. 
He hasn’t felt ostracized … etc. However, he’s not into the real “raucous” partying, either. Just not who he is … He’s happy, and he feels he’s not missing anything by his choice. As a freshman, he had to do this drug/alcohol online survey/test before he could register for spring classes. All freshman had to do it. He resented the idea that there wasn’t really a place for someone to choose, “will not drink” and move on. He resented the assumption the university made that all do drink. His only trouble is when folks are “intolerant” of his decision to abstain. He’s supposed to be tolerant of their decision to drink, but then they spend all their time not respecting his decision not to.</p>
<p>zebes</p>
<p>peter_parker, please stop – you’re only making yourself look bad (which is essentially what you said to me).</p>
<p>For the record, I don’t jaywalk (not that I walk around the city at all). I don’t even have the opportunity to jaywalk because I’m really not walking around ever, really.</p>
<p>I have never gambled with real money, no.</p>
<p>My income from gifts, etc. are small enough that they do not need to be legally recorded.</p>
<p>I follow ALL driving rules. I am NOT kidding. Also, 55 is my limit on the freeway. 
But yes, I absolutely use my turn signal every time, I always come to absolutely complete stops, etc.</p>
<p>There are no railroad crossings where I live.</p>
<p>I never download anything illegally because I have so much money on iTunes that it is unnecessary.</p>
<p>I only watch music videos, etc. on Youtube when they’re posted by the official accounts – why not? They’re always better quality, and frequently the first hit anyway. In fact, I usually find out about new ones being released when I check the Universal Music Studios account.</p>
<p>I never litter for the same reason that I don’t jaywalk.</p>
<p>I would absolutely never use a phone while driving (and remember, my permit is expired).</p>
<p>And I’m staying a virgin until marriage for religious reasons. ;)</p>
<p>So yes, I can speak from experience. I would suggest that you stop trying to attack my character in some bizarre attempt to thus render my argument invalid, which is obviously a sort of ad hominem. If the person doesn’t want to drink, you could at least encourage trying it within the confines of the law. Why not wait until 21 if the OP doesn’t want to drink anyway?</p>
<p>^Your arguments are usually pretty solid and cogent but jesus ****ing christ. You are either a high-functioning autistic or without a doubt, the squarest person alive.</p>
<p>I’m really square, I have no problem saying that.</p>
<p>And I love the taste of alcohol, particularly malt coolers and the like (Europe has much laxer drinking laws…). But I still am surprised it’s that uncommon at college not to drink at all until you’re legally able to.</p>
<p>Oh my gosh, Baelor. I don’t know you but I have this desperate urge to invite you to NYC for a day to hang out with me. Here, we walk around everywhere and never drive, so that means constant jaywalking and littering (I don’t litter). I would take you out and we would drink together and then you’d try some weed and get laid, all in the same night. Then you could go back to your small town in Arkansas and pretend it never happened.</p>
<p>Uhm, try huge suburb next to huge city in the North West. Anyway, at least now I know how limited my social opportunities will be in college. =/</p>
<p>Baelor, I think it’s admirable that you have abstained from such things despite—the increasingly evident—peer pressure. </p>
<p>I’m not sure why it matters so much if someone chooses to drink or not.</p>
<p>I was kidding about Arkansas, it clearly says “northwest” under your name…:)</p>
<p>No, don’t worry about it. A lot of people don’t drink and can still be social. I rarely drink myself (or do any of the other stuff I described, it was a joke). You might feel pressure to drink, but no one will be forcing beer down your throat. I’ve met a lot of people who don’t drink and they’re still a lot of fun. just don’t go to a college with a huge Greek scene.</p>
<p>■■■■ @ tayzonday doing the damn thing!!</p>
<p>Listen…around these neck of the woods the intelligent people and the non-drinkers are at about a 87.6% overlap (don’t judge the use of decimals). Also I can think of ways to have more fun with grapes than alcohol (anti-oxidants FTMFW), just saying.</p>
<p>moar like asking people if they want some grapes</p>
<p>Honestly, if I could start college over, I would either not drink at all or drink like once a month. It would’ve saved me from a lot of missed classes, bad hangovers, regrettable hookups, embarrassing walks of shame, and underage drinking arrests. I’ve stopped now and it’s definitely for the better. Kudos to whoever isn’t drinking in college.</p>
<p>^see? BLAME IT ON THE A-A-A-A-ALCOHOL</p>