<p>"everyone should just smoke a bowl and be happy"</p>
<p>Unfortunately, you'll probabaly be giving that same advice in 20 years.</p>
<p>Nom:</p>
<p>1) ethical values do indeed keep people away from drugs, like religion, thats a big one. </p>
<p>2) you think people dont abuse antidepressants like prozac? i dont know what your definition of "high" is, but i consider it to be any chemically induced altered state of consciousness. prozac can really make a person feel more relaxed. BUT, it is true that prozac isnt as often abused, for it is not as prominent a "high", as other common prescription drugs like vicodin and ritalin. </p>
<p>3) go look up the definition of "conscientious." people arent the only things can be conscientious. on dictionary.com the very first example is a "conscientious decision." would you say that decisions cant be conscientious either? Like the website says, conscientous is an adjective which means "Guided by or in accordance with the dictates of conscience", so a conscientious high would be someone who lawfully uses a medically prescribed drug to get high. since it is legal and the doctor says its okay, the individual should have no qualms with using it, thus making it a "conscientious high" , a high which is in accordance with the dictates of conscience--UNF. </p>
<p>i also think its funny that after two paragraphs of my opinion on obsessive cc people, you, Mr. 550-Posts, choose to attack my relatively insignificant, sarcastic closing statement.</p>
<p>momsdream: </p>
<p>where would you like me to be in 20 years? some stupid harvard law graduate bragging to everybody about my achievements and flaunting by wealth in some stupid big mansion somewhere and marry some attractive skank who feigns love but really only wants me for my money? think im exaggerating? i live in one of those god damn neighborhoods now, and i know what its like first hand--im not exaggerating. </p>
<p>**** harvard and all you glory-hungry parents living through your poor robotic children. not that all you parents are, but those of you who are know who you are, and despite the title of this thread, you will be offended, and you damn well should be.</p>
<p><em>looks around</em> Offended? Am I the only one laughing?</p>
<p>EDITED: Citing me as an example of college obsession was about the worst move you could have made. I applied to only one college. I knew which college this was going to be since birth. I took the SAT once. I do not come to CC for discussion of the latest vocabulary list. I come to CC for educational enrichment and provocative discussion (as well as the occasional belly laugh). Can you guess which two you offered me just now?</p>
<p>Why do we spend time "obsessing" on these boards? I think younger people, my daughters age, may view it as stressing. I kind of see it as investigating and gathering information and its not necessarily to share with her but to digest myself. There are some parents here who have tons more experience than I will ever get because I only have one child. I have always sought advice because it has always helped me more than hurt me. I cant bore my daughter with that stuff. She has observed me using college confidential and I bet she is happy that I am getting what I need from somewhere else instead of asking her a bunch of questions or stressing her out with things that arent important to her because she has her own student things to worry about. My concerns are different than hers and CC Parents Forum is one of the places I will turn to.</p>
<p>I like the posters, for the most part, on these boards, that is why I drop by every now and then. I admit I have been accused of devoting a lot of my time and energy to my kid. Thats because that is what my parents did with their kids and I thought that is what parents are supposed to do. After all, we are the ones who brought them into this world. </p>
<p>Why I like this board is my child is going to school on the east coast. She is the only one from her school going to the college she has chosen and no one from my family, my entire family, ever went to any college outside of the SF Bay Area. I have no idea, other than the couple visits we made out there, what the next four years hold for my daughter. Instead of "obsessing" over it with her (frankly she has better things to do with her time right now) I have found a community of parents who will let me communicate with them. Many of us are sending our kids far away, many of us only have one child, some of us are single parents, some of us don't know how our kids got the wherewithal to apply to top tier colleges, much less the opportunity (admitted) to go to some of these great institutions of higher learning.</p>
<p>It's true, some successful people never finished college. College isnt for everyone and I wouldnt expect to see those people posting on these boards.</p>
<p>I don't find many "pathetic" people except those who want to get into each other's business and question the motives of others. I don't need to smoke a bowl to be happy. I find great happiness in chitchatting with other parents in similar circumstances as my own. I also find happiness in the achievements of my kid who I taught to do the things that will bring her happiness and satisfaction. I look forward to the great times ahead. And I wish everyone else the same, happiness.</p>
<p>wow! i thought my post would appear right after h4zins first post. it takes all different kinds of people to make the world go around and obviously from your later posts you are exposed to some families that i have never been exposed to. like i said, my people are all pretty much educated right here in the bay area. I see what you are saying now based on what you have seen and that's too bad for those kids who will end up as you described. I bet those are the ones who use prescribed drugs. that's too bad. i better warn my kid! see you have also helped me.</p>
<p>09Mom,</p>
<p>Your #45 post summed up my feelings exactly. My D knows I post here, but she's not even interested. She's even complemented me on not pushing her in any particular direction (NOT EASY!). However, I need the knowledge for myself, so I can gently guide her if need be. I've learned so much in the two months I've been here.</p>
<p>thanks so much audiophile
that means a lot to me :)</p>
<p>Ritalin (methylphenidate) is related to amphetamine. Those who legitimately need the drug are unlikely to abuse it. But yes, some very serious druggie kids snort it. It doesn't happen by accident. The going rate of $5 per pill is usually enough to offset the prescription's co-pay. This draws some students into the business of selling their medication. Other students feel unsafe taking the medicine (lest it get out that they're a holder).</p>
<p>My S thinks it's a sign of having no life......and he has compared meeting kids from our area (who want to meet him) as a "blind date from CC". Psssst. The kids here are amazing and he should be proud to meet with them.</p>
<p>Anyway, it IS off to spend so much time on a website (even an 3 hrs a week is too much). But, it's MUCH better than doing this alone :)</p>
<p>on the subtopic....</p>
<p>WOW, I can't imagione being told that my S is dealing drugs at school. Talk about a heartbreak!! I wonder how much of us is anchored to their past, as opposed to their future.....</p>
<p>The future is so much longer, it's hard to settle for less....</p>
<p>"everyone should just smoke a bowl and be happy"</p>
<p>When did this thread become a 'get high' thread?</p>
<p>That would be at 8:22 PM EST May 10th, 2005 in a post by the user "h4zin".</p>
<p>I'm thinking of starting a novena. Hmmm. Nine old justices. Nine days. Maybe it's a sign!!</p>
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There are about 35-45 schools that EVERYONE's trying to get into and the competition and the stress are overwhelming.</p>
<p>But I've got a secret that I'll share with you. There are over 2,000 colleges in the US, and of the top 100 or 200 schools, if you avoid those schools mentioned above, you can get an EXCELLENT education without the kinds of behaviors you see here on this site.
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<p>I think the problem lies in that people want to have the BEST education, not just a good one.</p>
<p>"I think the problem lies in that people want to have the BEST education, not just a good one."</p>
<p>Good or best I think depends on the individual. Sometimes the best isn't the best for everyone. That's my answer to that problem. When I hear "ivy league" I cringe sometimes.</p>
<p>How the heck can you know what will be the best until you get there and see what works? Sure you can know some things, but it seems to me that setting your sights on a handful of brand-name schools is terribly self-defeating when you can create your own experience to a large extent in so many high-quality places. I've learned a lot from my son about how to be happy through helping him in this process. He's not going where he thought he wanted to go, but he's extremely happy with how things turned out for him. He's one of those people who can step in anything and fall into a bed of roses! If you won't allow that to happen, you can miss out on an awful lot.</p>
<p>With all the resources available today, you could get the BEST education without even going to college. You can also get a poor education at Harvard. It all depends on YOU.</p>
<p>"Can I hear an AMEN for blue, ctymom, and audiophile!!"</p>
<p>I didn't know that Sinner's Alley had a chorus!! When are the auditions? </p>
<p>Or is it like those progressive high schools where anyone can be in marching band, whether or not they play a musical instrument? According to my kids, I can't sing but I will move my lips silently if I can get into the chorus.</p>
<p>I may call myself a progressive but that instrument-less marching band sounds downright inane. Hold on. That's not true! It's the sound of silence! Oh, harken the call to music! <em>moves mouth without singing</em></p>