<p>ACCEPTED MT 2013!!!</p>
<p>WITH A 20k SCHOLARSHIP!!!
IM DYING INSIDE!</p>
<p>Accepted!!! I literally ran around my house.</p>
<p>Waitlisted…I hope there is still a chance…this is my dream school! Congrats to all who’ve been accepted!</p>
<p>That’s amazing you guys, congratulations! :]
I wish you all the best in the years to come, and I’m sure the class of 2013 is going to be KICK ASS. ahaha. :D</p>
<p>Rejected. Oh well. </p>
<p>Congrats to everyone who got in! That is beyond awesome!</p>
<p>My Ds friend (girl) her in So Cal just found out she is waitlisted.</p>
<p>accepted MT 2013!</p>
<p>Accepted!! MT 2013</p>
<p>Congratulations to all of those who were accepted and waitlisted!</p>
<p>Congrats everyone! I was accepted into the grad program!! Can’t wait!</p>
<p>I can’t say for sure how many were taken from the waitlist last year but there WILL be turnover so hang on!</p>
<p>I got accepted!! But I also got into NYU… Now I’m conflicted. Do you guys have any insight or advice? No biased opinions please. Thanks :)</p>
<p>Yasha, I have friends who go to both schools. They both love it. I could tell you a million good things about it, but I’ll tell you the bad. NYU is known for molding their students into a “typical” musical theater person - everyone comes out the same. BoCo is known as a song and dance school - a lot of the people who graduate go on to be in many ensembles. The plus side? NYU can make you into exactly what every casting director is looking for. BoCo students may get more dancing than any other school, but they are the ones getting the jobs in the ensembles and working their way up, rather than starving auditioning for leads and being beaten out. This isn’t bias, it’s just each’s reputation. The cost is around the same - they are both city schools, and both great programs. But, if I were you - I’d go to BoCo. You’ll be in NYC your whole life anyway as an actress - why not spend college somewhere else?
Just my two cents - ultimately its the place that feels the best. Visit both - it will make all the difference.</p>
<p>^^^ just responding to the above…</p>
<p>I do not believe that NYU molds their students to be a typical MT person. My kid is a senior in MT at Tisch. I know the CAP21 kids and their talent. It is very varied and not typical among them. I just saw the Tisch MT showcase (that had some from CAP and some from other studios) and what struck me the most was how varied the types and talent was and how they had very little in common. For what it is worth. The strengths of each performer there are quite different. Their types vary greatly. Nobody came across as “typical.” </p>
<p>Likewise, I don’t think BOCO has graduates who just go into ensemble work. For one thing, it is not true and graduates have been cast in roles. But besides that, many who graduate from a BFA in MT program often start out in professional theater in ensemble…and many would be thrilled to land ensemble in a Broadway show as a recent graduate, from any BFA program.</p>
<p>In all due respect, you do not attend either school. It would be more effective to hear from students who actually attend these schools.</p>
<p>operasinger2000,
What do you mean by the fact that NYU molds its students into a “typical” musical theater student? I’m just curious as to the specifics.</p>
<p>To both claydavisdbc and sooz,
First off, I did not intend to offend anyone, everyone has their own opinions on every school and while I’m sure your kid is a very talented performer, Yasha asked for advice and I gave her what I knew. Yes, I don’t attend either school but I’m a freshman in college who has a boyfriend at BoCo and a best friend at NYU. I also have many other close friends at both schools, so I know a lot about their training and their experience.
Let me be a little more specific about what I meant, maybe that will provide better insight, especially to claydavis and Yasha.
First of all, I specifically said that I was going to tell the bad. As someone who has been a tour guide, the biggest question everyone gets asked is - what is the worst thing you’ve heard about this school? or If you had to pick one thing that you could change about this school/it’s reputation, what would it be? In searching for colleges, these were the questions I asked.
In terms of NYU, I know many students who felt that in the process of molding (which is what happens at any MT program, no matter what - hence why it is so difficult to transfer to a different MT program) they were often being molded into what a casting director would want, rather than making themselves into a better “them”. This is the WORST reputation that NYU has. What I mean by this is not that NYU is the worst school, but rather that out of all of the wonderful things that NYU is known for, this is the worst of the worst. I know people who have left the program because they felt they were losing their individuality in order to get jobs. HOWEVER, as I said, this can be very good. These are the people who get jobs. NYU does an incredible job at making sure students leave NYU knowing how to do great auditions - I know two students that are on leave while they are currently in Broadway and Off-Broadway productions. I am sorry to offend you and I’m happy you saw a variety in students there - it goes to show that the experience is different for everyone.
In terms of BoCo, again, I gave the worst of the worst in reputations. There are people (teachers included) who believe that BoCo teaches you how to be an ensemble member. In all truth, it does. They have more dance classes than any other MT program I know of and the focus a large amount of time on the voice. Acting is there, but it isn’t as emphasized. This does not mean in any way that the students are not talented, nor does it mean that students who come out of BoCo don’t get lead parts. Like I said, the plus side of this is that BoCo students are often the ones getting jobs the fastest because they know more about being in an ensemble than other schools who can teach more about becoming a lead.
To finish, everyone has their own opinion and the fact that someone doesn’t attend the school itself does not mean they don’t know about it. Like sooz, I have been to showcases at NYU and BoCo to support my friends. I know a lot more about colleges than I ever wanted to know because of my friends and their experiences.
I understand a reputation of a school can be hard to hear when you disagree. You are talking to someone who is transferring out of a school despite everyone on here’s wonderful opinion of it. I apologize for offending and I did not mean in anyway to make it sound like your kid was not talented or was molded into something bad.
Good luck to both claydavis and Yasha and again, sorry to Sooz.</p>
<p>operasinger…just to be clear, I do like hearing many perspectives, along with pros and cons. I don’t mind criticism of a program, including the one my own child attends. I will admit that I put more stock in feedback from someone who is a student or parent of a student at a particular college, than one who either has heresay or friends in a college. </p>
<p>I understand that your friend goes to NYU. In my case, my D has been there for four years. It is not the best school in the country or something, and I am sure there must tbe things that some kids do not like about it. That’s understandable. It is not the end all and be all school. I will admit that my own daughter has loved it and has gained so much from it in lots of ways. Being that I have some knowledge of the experiences there and the kids there through her…in addition to having seen many shows there and many of the students…I truly DO NOT agree with you that the students are molded into what casting directors want and to be “typical” or “alike.” My daughter has been taught to play to her strengths. She has been stretched as an actor. I have never ever heard her talk about being influenced to lose her individuality. Even her choice of songs for her showcase were totally “her” and not what the next girl would have picked. She has done self scripting and composing at Tisch. She has done new works. Nothing about her training so far in four years seems to match your statement and I don’t think she would say her experience is what you mention about NYU. Also, the fact that NYU lets you and enourages you to do more than one studio and approach while there goes against the claim of learning only “one” way. In her case, she has trained in both CAP21 and ETW. But even in CAP, I can recall in classes with scenes and songs, the faculty choosing material for my D to do that fit her, not a mold. She was taught to know her type and when she auditions, she plays to her type and her strengths. I have not observed her being molded into what she is not. I have seen her grow as an actor, however. As I said, in my many times attending various shows and performances at Tisch, I have seen such a wide variety of types of actors/singers. I was struck by how different they are. It was one of the first comments I said after watching the recent Tisch MT Industry showcase, though I have seen such a variety of performances at Tisch over the years as well. So, that is my observation. </p>
<p>While my daughter was admitted to BOCO, I have less first hand experiences there to comment. </p>
<p>My D was a tour guide for Brown and I also have been on many college tours and a common question is…what do YOU like about attending this school? </p>
<p>In any case, I welcome input on any school and you are not offending me. But since I have my own observations on the school you are speaking about and have a child in the program, I am just offering other input for anyone who is reading.</p>
<p>PS…is your boyfriend and best friend who are at BOCO and NYU respectfully freshmen like you are? Just curious. Also, which showcase at NYU did you attend? Thanks.</p>
<p>I think operasinger’s opinions on both BoCo and NYU are well intentioned (she/he is telling what she/he has heard secondhand, basically) but very superficial and not at all helpful. It’s like saying “Oh, nothing but nerds who want to be doctors go to Johns Hopkins.” Not true, and not helpful. Just a superficial skating over the surface of the truth. Doesn’t do the person trying to find information much good, though again, I am not trying to criticize operasinger. </p>
<p>I can’t speak for BoCo (my D was fortunate enough to get in there but didn’t choose to go) but I can definitely speak about NYU-Tisch and one thing that I would NOT criticize the school and program for is taking one type of kid and then molding that kid to a certain type. I remember commenting on this (the amazing differences in physical type alone) when my husband and I went to NYU for parent weekend in October and attended a session at CAP21. Since then, my D has told us quite a bit about what they learn (and how) in acting classes and so forth, and so far, she has not felt stifled or shaped in any way, shape or form. If that was the case, believe me she would have told us! She came from a very strong actor training program at the high school level and had very high expectations for acting classes, in particular. Had she not felt challenged or had she felt pushed to be a certain way, you better believe she would have been complaining to me about it on the phone! 
One thing she would NEVER tolerate if less-than-excellent actor training. </p>
<p>Which is not to say that she or I think NYU is <em>the</em> perfect place. There is no perfect place. </p>
<p>What you want to find is a place that is as close to perfect as possible for YOU!</p>
<p>By the way, one thing that always made me laugh during my own kid’s college admissions/audition tour was how many programs said, during their info session “Unlike some other programs we won’t name, we don’t shape everyone to fit a mold. We help make you the best you you can be. The world doesn’t need another Kristen Chenoweth: she’s already here. What we need is the best you you can be and that’s what we do here.”</p>
<p>If we heard it twice, we heard if a dozen times! So every program claims that every other program tries to fit kids to a mold but they don’t. 
Be skeptical and realize that these programs are marketing themselves (nothing wrong with that!) and are often competing for the best students.</p>
<p>NMR…I have to chuckle as the “our program is not like the others who fit you to a mold” is a prevalent thing on some campuses and even occasionally on CC, LOL. </p>
<p>All I can say…just speaking of my own child…I can’t imagine any program fitting her to a mold…she is highly individualistic…if I could have made her conform to my wishes all these years, ha ha…it woud have been a miracle…she is so much her own person that there is no way even her parents could mold her, LOL. You’d have to know her to know why I am laughing. She has a strong will and she also is someone who follows her own unique path and doesn’t like to follow the “norm.” Even in HS, her path was nothing typical! If only. She’d hate a college program that made her conform to any one particular way, LOL!</p>
<p>Sooz, nop, both are juniors.
I’m glad you semi-see where I am coming from though you completely ignored what I said about being a “reputation” and not anything more than that.<br>
I’m not going to argue this any further as we both disagree and I’m not going to try and convince you. We each have our own opinions because every experience is different than others. Personally, I value opinions of friends’ experiences over mothers and fathers, but again, that’s just me.
I’m sorry you and NMR felt the comments were superficial or unhelpful, as they are opinions of many specific people I know, most of whom that attend NYU. They aren’t general statements about the quality of the people or the quality of the school, just about what some students (who could very well all be in the minority) feel about where their education has taken them.
For the record, I think NYU is a great school. I know someone who chose to continue her NYU education for a masters because she loved the school so much.
My mother also attended the school, but I doubt that counts for the student/parent opinion.
Yasha, pick the school that feels the best. My advice was merely some things that biased opinions and course catalogs won’t tell you. As I said before, you need to pick the school that FEELS the best to YOU.
Good luck!</p>