Notre Dame dilemma

<p>Just want to notify you all that I have finally decided ND is not for me. I am sticking with Georgetown, and its not the location that has made the decision. I met a girl today from another school who wanted to go to ND. She is a junior, and is struggling to get her SATs up so she can attend. She just seemed so focused on doing anything to get in, it was freaky... She said the main reason she wanted to go was because 70% of students attend mass. Now I am a believer, but that statement hit me like a brick. I could never go to a college that seems more like a religious retreat. Besides, if we don't go outside of our "comfort zones" I don't think we will ever grow as people. I thought I would like the neo-con, white, middle class people, but now I realize that ND is full of resume whores and nuggets (inside joke with EAers). I just want to go where learning is the focus and not grades.</p>

<p>Aren't you all tired of chasing like madmen after grades?? I hate it! </p>

<p>Our conversation ended something like this:</p>

<p>"So you want to go to ND?"
"No, but I applied there, and I know I'm going to get in, but I can't decide"
"Wait... How do you know you're getting in?"
"Because I got into Georgetown..."
(She Walks off in ****y mood)</p>

<p>That is a very good decision, in my opinion. I think that a school so focused on something like religion can not fully provide a complete academic experience. I like Georgetown because while it is Jesuit, it is still very secular. :)</p>

<p>Well, unfortunately for me, I only have one of the two options available. Hopefully the first (Georgetown) will open itself up and allow me to hurry up and make the choice, but for now.. </p>

<p>Then again, I'm an aberration from the norm at Notre Dame. Beautiful campus, Georgetown has. Why me speak like Yoda? (currently in a crazed state, please ignore)</p>

<p>It's funny that you say that all you want to go is where learning matters, because that is in line with the Jesuit tradition. Although we are Catholic and Jesuit, we're probably one of the most liberal religious institutions. It's a place that if you want to deepen your faith, its great, but at the same time, there isn't pressure to be actively religious, so I would say it's a safe environment for growth of every kind.</p>

<p>We? Who is We? Notre Dame is not Jesuit, it is under the Congregation of the Holy Cross. Wow, either a troll or a very uninformed person, or you were referring to Georgetown.</p>

<p>True........ (?)</p>

<p>Tlak- I hope you're able to smooth things out with your g/f (if that's the reason you're "crazed"). :) I also would not call you "unfortunate" for just have one of those options- there are so many people who don't even have the chance to apply to college, much less be accepted to a top 25 university (2 in your case). :p</p>

<p>Well, in reality we all know the choice is gonna come down to $$$$$$$.</p>

<p>Why is it that applicants who apply to Georgetown often apply to Notre Dame? </p>

<p>I've noticed that there have been several "Georgetown vs. Notre Dame" posts.</p>

<p>I didn't apply to Notre Dame. :p</p>

<p>Still doesn't explain why there've been several applicants posting Georgetown vs. Notre Dame posts.</p>

<p>:)</p>

<p>Well they're unarguably (is that a word?) the two best Jesuit schools in the nation (if not world), so if you're set on going to a Jesuit school, you will most likely have a strenuous deliberation period trying to choose one over the other. </p>

<p>Is Gtown harder or easier to get into, just wondering?</p>

<p>Notre Dame is not Jesuit.</p>

<p>Both schools have roots in Catholicism. Notre Dame (obviously) is Catholic and Georgetown, Jesuit, is a branch of Catholicism I believe.</p>

<p>Sigh... Catholicism is a religion. Within this religion are numerous holy orders, groups of monks, and each college that is "catholic" is actually run by a certain order. For Georgetown it is the Society of Jesus, which is not a branch of Catholicism like Shiite is to Islam. Notre Dame is run by the Congregation of the Holy Cross, a different order of priests/nuns.</p>

<p>Good to know. :)</p>

<p>Thank you Brenner.</p>

<p>And the Society of Jesus was founded by St. Ignatius, right?</p>

<p>Different orders; understood. Like the Francescan monks (St. Francis) and others.</p>

<p>Why the different orders? Different patron saints?</p>

<p>Sorry, I meant, we as in people who go to Georgetown (I go to Georgetown)</p>

<p>What is your major, uniquegu?</p>

<p>PS- welcome to the boards. :)</p>

<p>thanks, Marketing</p>

<p>The Jesuits were also the most devout defenders of Catholicism during the Reformation/Counter Reformation/Inquisition.</p>

<p>Whether this is good or bad I have yet to decide ;)</p>