Notre dame vs bc vs gtown

<p>Fordham should probably also be mentioned as comparable academically to the others. It was mentioned in “The Sun Also Rises,” for what that’s worth.</p>

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<p>One could very well say the same for ND (and in terms of name recognition, it’s not even close).</p>

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<p>More like ND had good football.</p>

<p>One of these schools has alumini who currently hold:
six of the 100 US Senate seats
three of the 50 governor’s mansions
one of the five currently filled seats at the Fed
one of the nine Seats on the Supreme Court
six current presidential or royal mansions as heads of state for the world’s 192 nations
the National Security Advisor position on the National Security Council
the position of Secretary of Defense in the Cabinet.</p>

<p>The kind of reach and prestige that emanates from this locus of influence makes that institution stand out among all the major secular univerisities as well as the world of catholic universities.</p>

<p>Virtually all these people have no time to watch that school’s football team lose to MArist, and Fordham and Yale and Lehigh and Holy Cross and …Pick a school.</p>

<p>^ Most people don’t know who those people are, much less where they went to school.</p>

<p>and that is sad since every decision that affects the most important aspects of their lives is determined by these people,including whether they will even have lives in the event of an international crisis.</p>

<p>Notre Dame and Holy Cross have higher endowment per student. HC’s alumni giving rate is among the best in the country-(52-53%). Holy Cross is need blind-meets 100% of demonstrated need. Georgetown and Holy Cross are the only 2 who can claim NCAA basketball championships. ND football and game atmosphere are special.</p>

<p>Par would rather die than say something nice about BC.</p>

<p>“One of these schools has alumini who currently hold:
six of the 100 US Senate seats
three of the 50 governor’s mansions
one of the five currently filled seats at the Fed
one of the nine Seats on the Supreme Court
six current presidential or royal mansions as heads of state for the world’s 192 nations
the National Security Advisor position on the National Security Council
the position of Secretary of Defense in the Cabinet.”</p>

<p>You forgot: One of only two presidents to have been impeached.</p>

<p>All 3 are very good schools. ND has a very good reputation partially due to its football, but it is also a very good school which was recently ranked #1 for business. G-town is where you should go if you are interested in politics, partially because it is in DC. BC is better than g-town at business but not as good as ND, although BC has the city advantage which can help for employment opportunities.</p>

<p>Basically, all 3 have their pros and cons depending on what YOU want. I ended up going to BC although i also got into g-town and off the waitlist at ND.</p>

<p>I agree with soccersam. While there is plenty of overlap among the things each school offers, and among the students who apply, there are enough differences that anybody with a clear vision of what he wants out of his college experience shouldn’t have a tough time deciding which is the best option in his particular case.</p>

<p>While Georgetown obviously has the advantage of being in the nation’s capital, BC is no slouch when it comes to politics. For decades, it has produced many of the state’s prominent politicians (e.g., Tip O’Neill, John Kerry (law school)). Usually at least half of the people representing Massachusetts in congress have a degree from BC…which is really saying something considering how many colleges are in the state.</p>

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<li>Notre Dame - the best academically, the most catholic and most prefferred (50% yield)</li>
<li><p>Georgetown - very close academically to ND, more secular, good for poly Sci and international relations, etc. and pretty desireable (42% yield).</p></li>
<li><p>Boston College - a step down in academics and prestige, largest student body, intermediate in “catholicness,” less preferred by applicants (24% yield).</p></li>
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<p>Notre Dame is the preeminent catholic college but its location turns off a lot of smart kids from the coasts. Georgetown is prestigeous too but has sold its soul to become so. BC is very good but is more like Villanova and Holy Cross in prestige than ND and Georgetown (i.e. few, if any choose BC over Georgetown).</p>

<p>how many would choose SJU over BC or GT? oh thats right none bc SJU is for idiots nobody’s even heard of it.</p>

<p>Notre Dame and Holy Cross have much higher alumni giving rates than Gtown and Boston College. HC’s alumni giving rate is around 52-53%-among the best in the country. ND and HC have higher endowment per student.</p>

<p>SJUHawk,</p>

<p>Where did you get the yield percentages for BC, GU and ND?</p>

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<p>Consider that geographically, BC is often used as a back-up plan for students applying to the Ivies and their competitors. Georgetown is too, but probably to a lesser extent, and I’d think that the typical ND applicant has been ND-bound their entire life. That may explain a lot of the yield rate differences.</p>

<p>Leanid: From the Princeton Review. It is the lowest yield for the top 5 catholic colleges. </p>

<p>gadad: I think you are right. BC has a lot of other colleges that they are competing with but that is true of Georgetown too. I am not saying BC is bad - it is a good school - just a step down from the other two. Notre Dame has a high yield because a lot of their applicants grow up watching “Rudy” and watching Notre Dame football and is the dream school of most Irish Americans. Their number of applicants isn’t that impressive but it is a dream school of many. A lot of the east and west coast people that opt out of ND do so because of its location. I have a sister that wanted to go to Notre Dame her whole life and was accepted. She visited and decided that she didn’t like being that far away and she thought it might be boring so she opted for Georgetown (but didn’t particularly like it).</p>

<p>thenatural: More people choose St. Joe’s over BC than you think. We have a higher yield than BC. The schools are similar - both Jesuit schools on the outskirts of a large northeastern city with a major basketball following. BC is generally regarded as a step above St. Joe’s just as georgetown and ND are a step up from BC. St. Joe’s gives A LOT of merit aid that often entices students on a budget. </p>

<p>How about full disclosure thenatural. To those that don’t know, thenatural was rejected by all of the schools to which he applied except BC. The schools that rejected him were Georgetown, George Washington, Cornell, Penn, and University of Richmond. There is no shame in that since it is an ambitious list. But for those of you wondering why he is lashing out at St. Joe’s, he is simply deflecting his anger/disappointment.</p>

<p>Georgetown is also one of the (few?) schools that requires three subject tests, so its applicant pool is more self-selective.</p>

<p>SJU- i didnt apply to Richmond, Penn, or Princeton. I was rejected from 3 Ivys, including Cornell, and GT. GW waitlisted me. I also got into fordham. I am lashing out at St Joes bc YOU have attacked me in two threads. first you called me an idiot, unprovoked, then you said i couldnt get into any schools. also, every school i was rejected from, waitlisted at or accepted into is miles ahead of SJU.</p>

<p>I never called you a name. I wouldn’t do something like that. I never attacked you either. “I was rejected by a better school than you attended” - LOL. Is that really an argument you want to make?</p>

<p>my argument is I was ACCEPTED by better schools than you attend. far better. also “This guy put Princeton and Georgetown on his application! Clearly, he is not smart enough to go to any decent college. No surprise.” YOU wrote that.</p>