<p>My daughter received a NROTC scholarship to attend Notre Dame. She found out this week that she was wait-listed there. Has anyone dealt with this situation before? I know you can try to switch schools, but at this late date... is it very time consuming? We are trying to get in touch with her NROTC contact, but have not been successful yet. She also has appts. to Air Force and Navy. Ahhhh...</p>
<p>i think you can switch units by sending your rejection letter to the school that NROTC gave you and your acceptance letter to the school that you would like to be transferred to. i believe the school you want to be transferred to had to be on that original list of five schools that you sent to NROTC in the fall.</p>
<p>Your daughter has a tricky dribble here - a multi-factor equation with multiple as-yet unknowns, with a little bit of a time pressure factor in the mix. I gather her goal is to use the next 28 days to sort out her preferences while things sort out for her. </p>
<p>Four years ago, my son had received appointments to two of the service academies, had also received the NROTC scholarship, and was waiting to hear from ~6 colleges that had NROTC units, and also a few others with no NROTC presence. March and April were quite complicated for him, as he tried to work through matching the NROTC scholarship with a slot at the school that accepted him and that he wanted to go to, while sorting out whether or not he really wanted to go to the SA. </p>
<p>He called the Naval officer handling the unit admissions billet at one of his top choices, a consortium that had students drawn from several extremely and very selective colleges. Her advice at that time ran something like this:
- The NROTC units at some / most of the very highly selective schools tend to have more slots than they get accepted applicants. Usually they can handle a "transfer in" of an accepted student as they build out their ibncoming class to fill slots. Don't put those schools at the top of your preference list.
- The slightly less selective / more popular schools tend to get more applicants with NROTC scholie awards than they have slots - so if one of those is at the near the top of personal preference list, then it behooves you to get on the list of the school that has higher demand for the ROTC slots.
- The process is complicated and shifts from year to year depending on the allocated NROTC scholarship billets at each schools' units or consortium, and on the shifting needs of the Navy and the Corps.</p>
<p>The net: it is probably best for your D to call up the officer in the NROTC unit at ND to discuss her situation. It might also make sense to call the opposite numbers at any other colleges with NROTC possibilities where she has been accepted to get the dynamics of demand and supply at each school. The take action to shift the NROTC scholarship to the school that makes most sense; my recollection is that it can be shifted again if she gets off a wait list.</p>
<p>My son ended up declining the appointments to Navy and AFA, and went to a private university with a small and focused NROTC unit. It has worked well for him - college life with a military flavor. Time has flown, and he is slated to be commissioned in 47 days.</p>
<p>Your daughter will have to work through her own preferences - the USNA and ND are very very different experiences. Both can lead to service in the fleet. I wish her well.</p>
<p>Does your daughter have a contact, such as a specified NROTC recruiter? Mine was very helpful in the process of setting up the DODMERB screening and officer review, as well as answering all questions I have had along the way, and it paid off when I found I got a scholarship to my first choice unit! This would be the first person I'd contact with a question.</p>
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<p>cam6,</p>
<p>here is another possibility. your daughter calls the NROTC commander of ND and tells him that she would like to go there with a 4yr scholarship but that she's been waitlisted and ask if there is anything he can do.</p>
<p>i was awarded a NROTC scholarship only yesterday evening and already today, one of my 5 schools that i had listed for the NROTC scholarship, but the only one which i was waitlisted at (a highly selective school i'll leave unnamed) has been in contact with me and hinted strongly that if i will assign the scholarship to them, they will take care of the "waitlist issue" for me.</p>
<p>i can't believe they would be the only school around that develops new interest after a candidate gets a NROTC scholarship either. your daughter might be surprised with ND if she reaches out to them.</p>
<p>Calling our CO will do nothing to get you into the school. We always have a long list of people who get into the school and get wait listed for the unit.</p>
<p>^^^Notre Dame/ROTC, of course it makes sense that ROTC is popular with many students at your school. What I don't understand is how one could receive appointments to USNA and USAFA, but wait-listed at Notre Dame.</p>
<p>Our admissions is getting absolutely ridiculous. My class' average SAT was above a 1450, its not that hard to figure out.</p>
<p>Thanks for all the advice. My daughter has not been able to get in contact with her ROTC coordinator. She has decided not to call the ROTC unit at Notre Dame. The frustrating part of all this is her second choice civilian school does not have an ROTC unit. The up side to all of this...as it would have been a hard decision between service academy and ROTC, this has just made her decision a little easier...</p>
<p>DanBrenn
"Calling our CO will do nothing to get you into the school. We always have a long list of people who get into the school and get wait listed for the unit."</p>
<p>I knew the unit was competetive, but didn't realize there was a waiting list to get into the unit. Hmmm...I assume her spot has been filled-all the more reason to move on. </p>
<p>usna09mom,
Notre Dame is very competitive. The service academies are competitive in a unique way. Sometimes, I truly believe, it comes down to the luck of the draw. I have to admit, though, when she received the NROTC scholarship early on to Notre Dame, we were very encouraged. I wouldn't think they would offer that to someone they didn't think could get past the admissions board. I am surprised that the unit hasn't contacted us. She already accepted the scholarship. I am not sure about my daughter, but I am exhausted thinking about all this... </p>
<p>FYI
This is from the Notre Dame school paper regarding the incoming class of 2012.
The average student graduating in the top 5 percent of their high school class, Saracino said. The average score on the SAT was 1400, Saracino said, and 32 on the ACT. Additionally, about 23 percent of the members of the incoming class are children of alumni, all 50 states will be represented in the incoming class, 24 percent belong to an ethnic minority background and 4 percent are international students. The Admissions Committee has also offered spots on the waiting list to 1,000 applicants, Saracino said. Last year, about 175 students were selected from the waiting list, and Saracino hoped the University, "can admit these students because they are very similar academically to students admitted initially."</p>
<p>cam, I'm pretty sure that they wont give up her spot until she turns down the scholarship, or asks for a school change.</p>
<p>Danbrenn
I didn't mean it literally. It is nice to get an inside perspective, though.
I have always been curious if NROTC worked at all with admissions. It sounds like they don't at ND, or at least not in this case.
Thanks again for all the advice everyone.</p>
<p>I'd give them a call anyways, there may be a waiting list to get into the unit, but she already has a slot in the unit. Worst thing that happens, they tell you to cross your fingers about the waiting list.</p>
<p>Cam, if I was to call anyone, it would be your regional admission rep. I've heard that creating a good relationship with a rep can help you in off the wait list.</p>
<p>what's a "regional admission rep"? you mean the recruiter?</p>
<p>hey, everyone. i read this thread and have a question of my own.
i just got awarded the nrotc scholarship but didn't get accepted to any of my top 5 colleges and was weight-listed at one of them. what do I do? is it possible to get into the college if you accept the scholarship? or did i have to get accepted to the college on my own? does this mean I can't take the scholarship because I wasn't accepted to any of my top 5 colleges?
(keep in mind that these were all really competitive schools)</p>
<p>Dallas,
you have to do you research now. there are 71 ROTC units at over probably 100 colleges and universities around the country. (including those with cross town programs). You will need to find those with rolling admissions and apply to those. For example, Illinois Institute of Technology has both an NROTC unit and also rolling admissions where they still accept apps right now. SUNY Maritime College is the same. when you find one that accepts you, transfer your NROTC scholarship there. Since you were reject or waitlisted at all of your top 5 choices, i suggest that this time around, you apply to at least 7-8 colleges with rolling admissions to make sure you are are accepted to at least one. one more possibility, although i was accepted to 4 of my 5 schools, one of the 5 colleges i put on my list waitlisted me. i went to them and told both the college and the NROTC unit that i was awarded an NROTC scholarship but that of course i couldn't attend because i was waitlisted, and they actually hinted to me that they might be able to solve my waitlist problem if i were to assign my scholarship to them as my first choice. in my case, the waitlist school wasnt my top choice anyways, so i probably wont do anything. but since your waitlist school is the only one of your 5 leftl, i'd think it is worth giving your them a call and/or sending email to the admissions and NROTC ppl. giving that a try wont cost you anything.
GL!</p>
<p>I have a similer problem as I recieved my NROTC to a school I was not accepted to, and I'm not really sure what to do...</p>
<p>AFMcKeown\,</p>
<p>Did you get accepted to any of the 4 other colleges you listed on your app?</p>
<p>thank you so much for your advice. I will definitely be doing that. :)</p>
<p>AFM, if you were accepted to one of the other 4 colleges you listed on your app (you did list 5, right?) then just email to the NROTC ppl and ask to switch your scholarship to one of the other ones. If you weren't accepted to any of your 5 choices, then follow the advice I gave to Dallas above. Start with IIT and SUNY Maritime and apply to a bunch of others. many colleges have admissions running either rolling, or until June.</p>
<p>to contact the NROTC ppl, go to this website: <a href="https://www.nrotc.navy.mil/status_scholarship.cfm%5B/url%5D">https://www.nrotc.navy.mil/status_scholarship.cfm</a>
and after you enter your social and birthdate, the email address to send request for college changes is about 4 lines from the bottom of the pg.</p>