<p>The SAT/ACT accomodations and a diagnosis of dyslexia will probably get you DQ’d.<br>
You seriously need to check into this before you go any further.<br>
It’s possible that you could qualify for AROTC.</p>
<p>Regardless of your college major, for NROTC you’re required to take Calc I&II, Physics I&II ( both of these are the the same ones the engineering majors have to take) and Chem. I&II.</p>
<p>well the accommodation is just to have a laptop for the writing portion of the test. As far as being DQ’d goes if i dont mention anything about my dyslexia will i be fine (the only way itll come up otherwise is if they pull my school medical file) im sure it wont inhibit me from doing a productive job as i can read, think, and write on a superior level the only time i lose my footing is when a mass of equations and numbers are closely together then i get a tad bit disoriented. Its gotten much better over the years so would it be possible to even get such a diagnosis cleared from my record?</p>
<p>Whoa, whoa stop. First, you can’t submit any SAT or ACT score that was taken using an accommodation. That is noted on the results that are sent to the Navy from the test. The Navy won’t accept them period. </p>
<p>Second, you can’t “not mention” dyslexia. Lying on the app is a felony. You will be required to have medical records sent directly from your physician. Dyslexia is a question asked. If you are going to lie about it you have no business being an officer. It is an automatic DQ. And I believe it is a DQ for all branches of the military. </p>
<p>I think you are underestimating the difficulty of college calculus and physics. What is the highest level math course you have completed? My son had AP Calc in high school and was on th math team. As a Tier 3 major he really struggled with college Calc and physics. </p>
<p>Just joining NROTC without a scholarship won’t help you. You still have to take the same courses, fill out the same app, and take the same physical. </p>
<p>I’m afraid you need a different plan.</p>
<p>I didnt mean to blatantly lie or such things but to my understanding my brother had a similar problem when working on a submarine with asthma being that he didnt mention it in order to get on, i assure you lying is the VERY LEAST if ANY of my intentions, but on the subject of dyslexia in general as far as im concerned i dont belive i have it (the general reason i was diagnosed at first was for reading and writing) seeing as to how reading and writing now come as natrual to me as breathing i dont belive its an accurate diagnosis true my handwriting may be down in the boonies but that has everything to do with dysgraphia rather than dyslexia, and belive it or not thats what the accommodation was for (to help with my handwriting) both my school nurse ans phhysician think dysgraphia is more of an appropriate diagnosisn and have been saying so for years, but the money it requires to get the test done to determine so are more than out of budget range. But i belive a spacial muscle disorder that affects handwriting only is the closest thing to what my problem is. In terms of math im not disabled from salving problems when they are displayed virtually inches appart from each other it just takes me longer than normal. If i have to strong arm my way through a few SAT/ACT test with no laptop i will (i can use this upcoming score as a general college admission score) class wise the math and science ill learn to have to manage (i always have) as far as math goes ive just had algerbraII this year and am going into pre-cal next year. As far as the state of texas is concerned im right on track, but thats what scares me. I dont trust a state with a low education rank like texas to reassure me im right where i need to be in regards to my future plans (hence some of my nervousness and uneasiness about everything) science wise i just finished up in AP Physics this year and plan to roll on into AP Environmental science next yer (all the other science choices are non AP) so given my “dyslexia” would it be possible to get this changed to dysgraphia if i were to be re-diagnosed with that? will that still cause issues as far as applications are concerned? And just how eccentric are my fears when it comes to the education of my state and my readiness for college? once more i had no intention of lying I.E. just giving a blatant no when asked if i was dyslexic or not (which i really dont believe is an accurate term to be honest) but to take the “if you dont ask i wont tell” approach. Apologies if that comes across as morally wrong and disgusting but i don’t think that im required to say to the Navy what they dont ask am I? well i withdraw that i believe the answer is yes no? In all honesty im just a tad bit heartbroken on this one, but with God as my witness if i have to claw my way through that application with no accommodations and work my butt off mowing lawns, washing cars, and cleaning houses to pay for a re-diagnosis (hopefully with a disorder that wont jeprodize me) then i can suck it up and get it done. All i need is a possibility, be it small or large.</p>
<p>A lie of omission is still a lie and it is blatant. You have to list that you have had the diagnois and or any accommodations within the last 12 months as well. </p>
<p>You need to reconsider this. You are a long shot to get the scholarship at best since you will be submitting very late and as a Tier 3 applicant. Your medical will probably get you DQd. And Pre-calc in HS will not prepare you for college Calc which is a requirement. </p>
<p>I’m not trying to be mean just realistic. You need a plan B and C. Wishing will not make it so. Best wishes I’ve said my piece</p>
<p>I do appreciate the brash answers, and aside from being dealt a warehouse of lemons here nothing left to do but push on forward regardless, after all it wouldnt hurt to try anyways right? Thank you for all the information i REALLY wish my local recruiter was as knowledgeable, but regardless of that fact i have a backup plan already in place so i guess no harm no foul, but i am still pretty disappointed to say the least. Sorry if ive come across as a scheming conniving liar because im neither of the three just desperate in a sense, but not crazy enough to try and loophole my way into the service. If i do get any further information i wont hesitate to post and update whatsoever</p>
<p>Finance and accounting are math-heavy majors, so if you can do the math for those likely you can do the math for a tier 2 major. Consider double-majoring in a tier 2 major - Quantitative Economics and Statistics are two tier-2 majors that are very applicable to business and that are in the second tier.</p>
<p>If you have a hard time with a “mass of equations and numbers,” how do you plan to major in finance or accounting?</p>
<p>I don’t think dyslexia or dysgraphia are disqualifying conditions for the NROTC scholarship. I don’t see that listed anywhere - they are usually medical conditions that are DQing (physical and mental health). I had a history of asthma, which is a disqualifying condition, and I still received an NROTC scholarship. You’ll have to talk to a recruiter to be sure. Do you have a JROTC program at your high school? We had an NJROTC program at my high school, and the leader of that program counseled me on my application even though I wasn’t in ROTC. (I wanted to be, but my parents wouldn’t let me.)</p>
<p>How on earth did you finish AP Physics when you are going into pre-cal next year? Did you take Physics B?</p>
<p>I decided on finance or accounting when i went to a local university and sat in on an accounting class, for the most part it was just putting the right transactions to the proper ledger doing a few algebraic equations to calculate ending balance, interest, profit/loss percentages, etc… i can do things such as that, and for all i know college math classes may not cram equations into a board and confuse me, but declaring a major that deals in math would require time, which i know in college i will have an abundance of, but i cant just teach myself, and i doubt student tutors will be willing to put forth enough patience to keep me steady. honestly i looked into quantitative economics along with a mass of other tier 1 and 2 degrees and most of them boiled down to math as a key concept for success, this scared me back into accounting since i had a small idea of what it would be like in college. as far as school ROTC my highschool has just that an ROTC class, but my mother wouldnt let me take it. The teacher and director of the program is strictly an army man (hes a vet and everything) and judging from the few times i talked to him only knew about naval policies that were roughly the same as the army. Physics is actually a required course for junior year at my highschool, but algebraII is also unless taking calculus and pre-cal ap and pre-ap. the physics wasn’t that difficult to be honest it was a few velocity problems here and a few potential energy problems there and for the most part went smoothly (but my original teacher did leave at the start of the year which made us go 8 weeks without official instruction) I know just like anyone i can be taught to understand, but with math it just takes time, and im more than willing to sacrifice a majority of my time if i have someone behind me to help me learn and understand it, the uneasiness for me is the thought of being in a tier 1 or 2 major with no one willing to sacrifice the hours of tutoring, teaching, and explaining to make sure i get it</p>
<p>Forget about recruiters. There are no NROTC recruiters. Recruiters are there for enlisted and are not knowledgeable about ROTC. </p>
<p>Dyslexia is absolutely an automatic DQ. Check the DODMERB site for a list of disqualifying conditions. To talk with someone at DODMERB call 1-800-841-2706 from 7AM-4 PM, Mountain Time, Mon - Fri.</p>
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<p>No, it is not. Although checking the DoDMERB website, as you suggested, is far from straightforward, what I found at [Medical</a> Standards for Appointments and Enlistments](<a href=“http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/613003p.pdf][b]Medical”>http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/613003p.pdf), after searching there for “dyslexia,” states that disqualification is not automatic:</p>
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<p>If you have information from a DoD source that states otherwise, please provide the link.</p>
<p>You appear to be quite knowledgeable about military matters and I, admittedly, know absolutely nothing. But my limited research contradicts what you’ve said. Unless you can back up the claims you’ve made regarding “automatic disqualification,” please don’t speculate.</p>
<p>Further, to the best of my knowledge, neither College Board nor ACT currently reports whether or not a test was taken with accommodations, despite this having been the practice in the past. That would, of course, not relieve the candidate from declaring the accommodations himself.</p>
<p>Now, whether the OP can satisfy the standard I’ve quoted above is another matter entirely. But at least he’s got a heck of a lot more of a chance than he’d have with “automatic disqualification”!</p>
<p>In post #10 I mention the accomodations issue. Having 2 sons complete both the ROTC scholie (AF,Navy,Army) process and earn said scolarships and then complete and be admitted to 3 service academies, accomodations on the SAt/ACT make those specific scores unacceptable. Doesn’t matter the reason for the accomodations.</p>
<p>And yes not only on the pre-lim apps do they ask specific questions about possible DQs but as posted above the DODMERB is very thorough. And yes they can ask for all your medical records or anything else they feel is necessary. And the questions are specific. As in have you EVER been diagnosed with…? Not, do you think you have this or do you think you were misdiagnosed?</p>
<p>And after filling out the paperwork, then you see a physician(service disgnated not yours) for a physical, have an eye exam, complete a physical fitnness test, LORs, all done before being commissioned as an officer.</p>
<p>And with the current needs of the Navy scaling back officers they will be even pickier than in the past.</p>
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<p>Again, the College Board no longer reports accommodations.</p>
<p>But, regardless, the OP will need to test again in the fall . . . which he’s already indicated he’s prepared to do. His plan - to use the accommodated scores for college admission and the unaccommodated scores for ROTC admission - seems a sound one.</p>
<p>thank you SO MUCH dodgersmom i myself looked into it and from what ive seen i cant be automatically disqualified so long as dyslexia has not been recorded as affecting my learning ability and classroom functioning (which it hasent may i happily add!) i will continue looking to see if it states anywhere otherwise but i honestly doubt it</p>
<p>Auto DQ for dyslexia if any accommodations have been given. OP states he has been. Thus the DQ. And the OP has to disclose it. </p>
<p>I’m afraid the point is moot. Taking the SAT / ACT in the Fall will put the OP only in the last few boards when the competition is the toughest. Given that he is a Tier 3 major that will have only taken Pre-Calc and not having taken the max # of AP courses the chances of a scholarship are very very poor. And test scores are unknown. </p>
<p>I’ve seen too many kids have well meaning people tell them they are a shoe-in when they are far from it. Then the kid is stuck. </p>
<p>The reality is that there are 10x more applicants than spots. The Navy is only taking the kids with perfect stats and meds now. It is much different than even 4 years ago.</p>
<p>Regardless of what anyone thinks about th dyslexia the only opinion that matters is DODMERB. The OP should call the number I gave, tell then the entire honest story, and get a real answer. He can then go from there.</p>
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<p>I understand what you are saying regarding the Collegeboard not reporting scores with the notation of accomodations given.</p>
<p>Rather it is on the application forms that specifically ask the candidate if the SAT/ACT scores were with accomodations. It is up to the candidate to report the truth.</p>
<p>If it is found say in the counselor’s LOR where she is asked if any accomodations (electronic form she must fill out and send back with those SPECIFIC questions) were given and she replies with a yes, then that would be grounds for automatic dismissal. </p>
<p>The idea is the candidate would tell the truth regarding the diagnosis and subsequent accomodations.</p>
<p>Kat</p>
<p>Honor, Courage, Commitment</p>
<p>and for all i know college math classes may not cram equations into a board and confuse me, but declaring a major that deals in math would require time, which i know in college i will have an abundance of, but i cant just teach myself, and i doubt student tutors will be willing to put forth enough patience to keep me steady. honestly i looked into quantitative economics along with a mass of other tier 1 and 2 degrees and most of them boiled down to math as a key concept for success, this scared me back into accounting since i had a small idea of what it would be like in college.</p>
<p>But math is a key concept for success in accounting, too this logic doesn’t make sense to me.</p>
<p>And as for Iron Maiden’s comment about recruiters, I was NOT talking about regular military recruiters. I talked to some recruiters specifically from the Naval Academy who came to my school who had tips on the NROTC scholarship. There are also Navy recruiters for officer candidates; I know because I have talked to some before.</p>
<p>Very true, but my impression was that the OP talked to a regular recruiter. </p>
<p>Having taken nothin can tell you accounting courses are 100X easier than college Calculus. I agree the logic is flawed.</p>
<p>Can someone please explain the tier 1 & tier 2 majors and how they work?
what if my sat score went from a 1530 to a 1370? does that mean im already disqualified for the process?</p>