NROTC questions

<p>ok, i’m applying for an NROTC scholarship and i have a few questions</p>

<li><p>what kind of questions do they ask you at the interview?</p></li>
<li><p>where do i get the form for the physical?</p></li>
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<p>thank you</p>

<p>contact your local regional guy for the physical.</p>

<p>in the interview they were really chill. one guy brought me in while we waited for my recruiting officer.. and he basically just got to know me. it was kind of like an unofficial interview that they snuck in on me but they really are just trying to get to know you. in my official, more formal interview he just asked me basic questions that were on the application like how have i demonstrated leadership and whatnot.. why do you want to do this..</p>

<p>real straight forward and fun. remember: they want you basically</p>

<p>I think that I can add some insight for you as my S went successfully through this process last year.</p>

<p>Don't listen to those that say that you are almost guaranteed a 4-year scholarship. There were over 5,000 Navy applicants last year and about 500 scholarships were awarded. You can do things to make your application more appealing, but don't put all your eggs in this one basket.</p>

<p>You need strong grades and SAT scores - well above the published minimums. Sports is a big help and you need to have demonstrated leadership for your HS career (sports captains, club Presidents, Student Gov't, etc). A history of volunteer work helps as well. Having taken and excelled at the toughest courses offered at your HS is important (AP or IB).</p>

<p>Ideally you would have had the entire application process (including interview) completed by the end of August. The application is extensive and you have to write several essays and get multiple recommendations. The applications are reviewed at several review boards that happen monthly between Sept and April 09. You've missed one and probably two already. If your application is not chosen at the first board it moves to the next board and is evaluated again until the end. The sooner you get the application in the more chances you have. You are late. It can still be done but your chances are less since you get less reviews.</p>

<p>Once you start the application online you should get contacted by a recruiter. They will monitor your app and once it is complete work with you to schedule an interview. Dress nicely and be ready to answer why you want a career in the Navy. Outline your HS accomplishments and your leadership (clubs, sports, etc). Your application does NOT go to the board for review until the interview is complete!</p>

<p>The poster above is incorrect on the physical. You only get scheduled for the physical after you get chosen for a scholarship. You get mailed a user name and password to sign-up online. Until then there is no physical. You can get the scholarship and get then lose it by failing the physical.</p>

<p>Keep in mind that you have to list 5 schools that have NROTC (in order of perference with at least one State school in the top 3). Just getting the NROTC scholarship does NOT guarantee you admission to that school. The admissions process is separate. It is also very possible that you don't get the NROTC scholarship to your #1 choice.</p>

<p>Finally, there is a new rule this year that 85% of NROTC scholarships have to go to Engineering students. If you are going to be an Engineering major that is good. If not, your chances just dropped. There is no loophole for saying you are an Engineering major, getting the scholarship, and then changing your major out of Engineering. You will then automatically lose your scholarship.</p>

<p>The NROTC scholarship is for tuition and fees only. Room and Board is to be paid by you. Any fin aid you get goes to Room and Board as well as loans and other scholarships. A few schools give free Room and Board to NROTC scholarship winners, but they are by far the exception.</p>

<p>You may find that the recruiter does not know much about NROTC. Their job is to get you to enlist or go DEP (delayed entry program). Watch out for this. A good place to start for more info is: <a href="https://www.nrotc.navy.mil/%5B/url%5D"&gt;https://www.nrotc.navy.mil/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>NROTC requires a strong committment on your part. PT multiple times a week, extra courses, summer active duty, and finally at least 4 years active duty and 4 years reserve. For those that want this it is a great deal. My S has PT 3 times a week at 6am, which means being there ready to go at 5:45am, which means getting up at 5am at the latest. Two Navy classes in addition to his regular course load. Uniform is to be worn one day a week and you inspected by a Marine Gunnery Sargent. Usually at least one other committment a week that he has to do (service project, extra training, cleaning, etc). Also, as an NROTC student you have to take one year of Calculus and one year of Calculus based Physics. No way around this regardless of major. My S is a liberal arts major and takes these classes.</p>

<p>If you are not fortunate enough to receive the 4-year scholarship you have an option. Attend a school that has NROTC and join NROTC anyway. This is called the "college program". You do the same things the scholarship students do. You can pickup a 2 or 3 year scholarship this way if your grades are high and you perform well in your fitness tests and within the unit and are recommended by the CO. 4-year scholarship students are in the minority in my son's unit. If this does not appeal to you then you really need to ask yourself if you want NROTC.</p>

<p>I'm not trying to sound negative but I saw a lot of kids try for this scholarship and count on it last year only to be disappointed despite people that told them it was automatic. I'll be happy to answer other questions.</p>

<p>Iron,
Son might be interested in AROTC. Do you think the general highlights of your post apply to Army?</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>DougBetsy:</p>

<p>My S had no interest in AROTC so we never researched it. I think in general my comments regarding the commitment and academics / leadership required would be the same, as well as timing. The specifics of the AROTC application process may be different though.</p>

<p>Also, the mission of NROTC is to provide non-restricted line officers for the Navy. That means you are trained to get to command something that floats. No land-based officers, JAG, etc. Not sure of the AROTC mission. I would think it would be safe to assume that a new Army officer is going to be on the ground in the Middle East at some point in the near future.</p>

<p>You might find some answers at <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/military-academy-west-point/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/military-academy-west-point/&lt;/a> You can ask general AROTC questions there.</p>

<p>IronMaiden - you are correct. The Army is looking for folks who fit the scholar/leader/athlete model.</p>

<p>Applying for an AROTC scholarship is very different than NROTC. For one thing there are many many more scholarship dollars available. There is a serious shortage of junior Army officers, the Army is much bigger than the Navy - hence the need for more 2nd Lt's.
The medical qualification is done through the Department of Defense Medical Examination Review Board (DoDMERB). They will make sure you get a physical and submit your medical history. Once you start your AROTC application your name will go to DoDMERB and you will get a request for a physical in the mail. You don't have to wait until the scholarship is offered. If you apply to both programs then only one physical is needed.</p>

<p>AROTC is in many more colleges than NROTC and a AROTC scholarship winner can major in just about anything. AROTC provides 2nd LT's for Active Duty Army, Guard and Reserve. What you get after commissioning depends on the needs of the Army and merit.</p>

<p>If you are not sure about the Army you are welcome to take the first two years of AROTC (no scholarship) committment-free. You would then decide at the end of your junior year.</p>

<p>Thanks for all the great info!
My son is a junior and we are just beginning this process. He has always thought of only NROTC, but now I am a bit wary.Engineering is not on his radar at all.
Special ops as a career is where he wants to go.</p>

<p>Does anyone know if you can apply to both NROTC and AROTC at the same time?</p>

<p>A story about my s and his NROTC application process: S started his NROTC application in the middle of September, providing contact information for the guidance counselor and two teachers. S did not submit the application, but the references received emails from the Navy asking for the required information on September 16. As noted on the scholarship application site, son checked up with his references and all said that they would finish by the end of September. S dragged his feet until around the 5th of October when he finally finished the essay and submitted his application. Within three days, he had connected with the recruiter and completed his interview. The recruiter asked S about his GC/teacher recommendations (which hadn't been received). Son followed up with GC/teachers - the results: GC had sent his material right away, but apparently emailed it to the wrong address; math teacher had forgotten about the email requesting info and had deleted it as spam; and the other teacher is just so popular that she is writing 30 recs and forgot because there was no paper associated with the evaluation. Today, they all scrambled to finish up their parts, which was wonderful of them, and hopefully the application will be complete within the next day. Moral of the story: teachers and GCs are soooo busy that they might just forget....don't be afraid to follow up with them to make certain that all of your paperwork is in.</p>

<p>suek66, Your S doesn't have to major in engineering. My S is a 1C (senior) NROTC midshipman. He is not majoring in engineering. Most of the guys who started out in engineering changed their major in the first year. Their commanding officers did not care. They encouraged them to major in something they could do well in. As someone stated earlier, you still have to take a yr. of Calc. and a yr. of Physics regardless.</p>

<p>And yes, you can apply for both NROTC and AROTC. You don't have to take the Calc. and Physics for AROTC.
Special Ops is an option right out of school but it it extremely competitive. It is my S's goal also. Another option besides SWO (surface warfare officer) and Subs is Aviation.</p>

<p>OP, My S got the information about the Physical with his letter awarding him the scholarship (that was 4 years ago, may be diff. now). </p>

<p>The attrition rate has been high in S's unit. As a freshman, there were 27 scholarship recipients in his class. As seniors, there are less than 10 of the original 27 left. There are some prior enlisteds who will commission with them too.</p>

<p>PackMom:</p>

<p>Your information on major requirements was true when your 1C came in, but is outdated. New Navy directive this year for the class of 2013 that it is mandatory that 85% of 4-year scholarships are Engineering majors. Any new 4-year Engineering major on scholarship that drops Engineering as a major loses their scholarship.</p>

<p>Tell your 1C to check if you don't believe me. Someone in their COC will be aware of the change.</p>

<p>If a student is a college athlete and had surgery for an athletic injury (knee) and recovered and played again, would that be something that would pass the physical? DD is considering the military medical school options</p>

<p>AROTC & NROTC - yes a student may apply for both scholarships. Navy does lean toward those who pick a technical major. AF as well. Army doesn't care what your major is - big plus.</p>

<p>One benefit to applying to both AROTC AND NROTC - your name will go to DODMERB much sooner for AROTC and your physical. It is nice to get that ball rolling - esp if there might be issues.</p>

<p>One thing to keep in mind -regardless of the branch of service: You don't always get what you want, or at least get it right away. It depends on the needs of the Army/Navy and merit. Aim for career goals but have a clear understanding of the process.</p>

<p>With an AROTC scholarship - you have one year on scholarship to decide before you are committed and owe the Army time.</p>

<p>somemom - if your daughter makes a complete recovery and will be able to pass the fitness tests then she should not have a problem. The Army has a great program for those who want to go to medical school on the gov'ts dime. Navy - not so much. Most Navy dr's are direct commission - after medical school.</p>

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With an AROTC scholarship - you have one year on scholarship to decide before you are committed and owe the Army time.

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<p>I assume you'd have to repay the scholarship if you drop out. Right?</p>

<p>ETA - drop out of the scholarship program, not drop out of school.</p>

<p>AROTC - if you win a 4 year scholarship, after the first year you have a committment to Uncle Sam. If you decide the Army is not for you or your drop out of school then you owe nothing.
After the first class of your second year, you are committed. You either pay back the scholarship or enlist. You may not get to choose. That choice is up to the Army.
At the Service academies you get two years before committment.</p>

<p>With the Navy you have until day 1 of sophomore year to change your mind if you are on a 4 year scholarship. After that you either have to pay the money back or enlist - it is the choice of the Navy which.</p>

<p>85% of new 4-year Navy scholarships are now REQUIRED to go technical majors.</p>

<p>With the Navy you have until day 1 of sophomore year to change your mind if you are on a 4 year scholarship. After that you either have to pay the money back or enlist - it is the choice of the Navy which.</p>

<p>85% of new 4-year Navy scholarships are now REQUIRED to go technical majors.</p>

<p>Iron Maiden, I stand corrected...I was wrong..sorry.</p>

<p>Of the 15% remaining scholarships (after the 85% go to technical majors), 20 - 30 per year will go to students interested in the Language, Regional Expertise, and Cultural Awareness Program as outlined on the NROTC website:</p>

<p>Students interested in pursuing language or cultural studies majors should examine the opportunities available in the Navy's Language, Regional Expertise, and Cultural Awareness (LREC) Program offered at select NROTC units listed below. Annually, the Navy will offer this program to 20 - 30 students. Attainment of a specific level of language proficiency is not required by the NROTC LREC program. </p>

<p>Harvard University
Tufts University
Georgetown University
Stanford University
University of Southern California
University of Utah
Northwestern University</p>

<p>Regions/cultural areas and languages available for study are listed below. Selected languages and regional/cultural areas must be related. </p>

<p>Middle East
Russia/Eastern Europe
Africa
Middle/Central/Latin America
East Asia/China
South Asia
Southwest Asia
Southeast Asia </p>

<p>Foreign Languages </p>

<p>Arabic
Cambodian
Chinese
French
Hebrew
Hindi
Indonesian
Japanese
Kurdish
Malay
Pashto
Persian
Portuguese
Russian
Serbo-Croatian
Somali
Spanish
Swahili
Tagalog
Thai
Turkish
Urdu
Vietnamese</p>

<p>Thanks for all the great information.
So, now we are beginning the process of application.</p>

<p>We have been told not to let the right hand know what the left hand is doing…
IE not to tell the AROTC and NROTC know that he may be applying for both…
This seems sneaky to me…
Any thoughts or suggestions?</p>

<p>It seems as though he will have more opportunity to gain the scholorship and go special forces in the AROTC. S however really only wants to focus on Navy.
He has wanted to make the military his career since about 5th grade, so is not looking at only the college tuition…</p>

<p>Seriously it doesn’t matter and won’t affect the applications one bit. The military is the military and they are professionals. The officers that he interviews with won’t make the decision anyway.
He may find a little bit of “Navy is better than Army because_____” and vice versa. But this is good and a conversation starter and a way to get more info.</p>

<p>NROTC - he needs to know that regardless of his major he must take Calculus, chemistry and physics. I think it’s all spelled out on the website.</p>

<p>Has he picked his schools? One benefit to Army is that it is offered at many more schools than NROTC and they don’t care what you major in.</p>