<p>I just checked my son's application and, for the first time in 6 months the status has changed... I'm shocked it says he did not qualify for a scholarship, with more info to follow. Anyone else see this recently? On another thread recently a poster mentioned the board dates, so this must have been determined at the February Board. I say I am shocked because the recruiter was so positive about how overqualified my son was. He really gave us the impression that the scholarship was going to be easy for him to get. My son has great grades and good ec's. I'm surprised and disappointed for him. Has anyone else got bad news like this lately? He also applied USNA, but we all thought that was going to be more of a reach than the ROTC scholarship. He was accepted to the schools he put on the ROTC list too.?!?!?!?</p>
<p>hmmm. mine still says, "Selection Status: No decision has been made on your application."</p>
<p>did your son end up getting accepted to USNA? was he heavily into sports? did he have really good SATs to ACTs? did he write 5 really good essays?</p>
<p>if so, maybe the selection board has just gotten more selective than in past years :(</p>
<p>Which is more competitive the NROTC scholarship or USNA?</p>
<p>Did not get into USNA yet. I think he had excellent essays. He is in the top 10% of his class and NHS. He is incredibly physically fit. His only sport is track. His Sats were mid 600's. He has also held a job since he turned 16. No questionable background at all..He is medically qualified too. Can't figure. Love to see the further info they will be sending us.</p>
<p>was he on the varsity track team? did he earn some varsity letters? how did he do on his officer's interview?</p>
<p>seems like a mystery so far that he should be turned down. especially turned down while there are still selection board meetings scheduled for march and april.</p>
<p>We were led to believe that for our area (UT), NROTC was actually more competitive than the SAs. I don't know how true that is and can't remember who told us that... but that is what we heard.</p>
<p>Although now that I think about it, I might be talking about MROTC... Sorry! a bit confused about that.</p>
<p>Getting the NROTC scholarship itself is not as competitive as earning an appointment to one of the service academies. Evidence: Look at how many students are enrolled in NROTC vs. how many are at the academies. There are plenty of those kids in ROTC who did not get accepted by an academy.</p>
<p>The confusion in here lies with getting into the NROTC school that you're applying to coupled with obtaining the scholarship.</p>
<p>If you're trying to apply to Harvard or MIT, you must get in there first before you can use the scholarship there. On average, Harvard has 11 graduates of NROTC annually. Many of those TURNED DOWN USNA in favor of going there.</p>
<p>Getting NROTC at the unit of choice can be the most difficult admissions process in the country. Think about getting into Harvard AND being endorsed by the government as a future officer. The task seems rather hefty.</p>
<p>So the best advice is apply to schools that you could normally get into with your stats, ec's, etc as a civilian, then if you can land NROTC to go with it, then you're golden.</p>
<p>What we normally see is a mixture of events. Some people apply to ROTC schools that aren't very competitive but end up not getting the scholarship. Some people will get the scholarship and not get into their desired unit (ie Harvard).</p>
<p>i see you are a MIDN now GoNavyXC. were you a recruiter before?</p>
<p>Re: letters, he will get one in Varsity track this year. The school only awards letters to Seniors who qualify.
My son has not got into his first choice yet, but he did get into the second and third choices. The first school will not make admission decisions until mid spring. He did not apply early decision. Could it be that the ROTC board just said no scholarship because of the late decision on the first choice, and/or because the first choice is a really expensive school? Second and third choices have more reasonable tuition. Big question is when will they actually mail us the information about the decision? Gonavyxc, your comments about NROTC being easier than a Service Academy are discouraging. He even has a nomination. It is not looking good for USNA if what you say is true!</p>
<p>Kevin's mom and DSL1990,</p>
<p>It is quite possible to receive an appointment to USNA even if you do not receive an NROTC scholarship. Fact is, acceptance rates to the service academies range anywhere from 13-16% between West Point, the Naval Academy, and the Air Force Academy. Many kids just take the de facto ROTC scholarship if they get it because they know their chances at the academies are slim. ROTC is often the "fall back" option to a service academy, if desired.</p>
<p>DSL1990, I'm not a recruiter, although I take special interest in admissions to the Academy. I've always been interested in the process and "lore" that goes with getting accepted to the Academy. No one really knows the "formula" that's used to calculate the Whole Candidate Score. I spend some time before Thanksgiving going on OPINFO (Admissions visits to high schools) and Academy Days hosted by Congressmen. My state is particularly weak, suprisingly, admissions wise to the Academy, so I feel like I need to spread the word a little bit.</p>
<p>Kevinsmom, don't lose hope. Your son has what seems like a very competitive and respectable profile to USNA, but do keep in mind that there are 10,000 kids applying for the same position that you are waiting on. I don't know what happened with the NROTC process. Maybe you left out an item on the application. It's really hard to tell. USNA won't use his failure to obtain an NROTC scholarship against him in the admissions process. Keep in mind, it is still quite early to hear from USNA at this time of year. I'd be patient before making decisions about your son's future just yet. It wouldn't even be a miracle if he did an appointment, you just have to hold out hope. I certainly am because it seems like what happened with the ROTC fiasco was unjust and I, even as a MIDN feel your pain.</p>
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<p>No. Scholarship quals are distinctly separate from the selectivity, admissions timing, and cost of preferences. That's why they ask for more than 1 option, in case students are qualified but there are no billets at that school.</p>
<p>Put simply, the "who" is separate from the "where" at "what cost."</p>
<p>XC is correct. The ROTC scholarships are much less rigorous and competitive to come by. Good luck. </p>
<p>btw, one observation to split an important hair ... when a candidate arrives at this point, he/she is not competing with 10K others. The group is much smaller, depending upon which "pool" one is in. His district/state or the national.</p>
<p>"The ROTC scholarships are much less rigorous and competitive to come by. Good luck. "</p>
<p>I thought this also. My NROTC recruiter told me that I was a "slam dunk" for the NROTC scholarship and that he thought I would be awared within the first two boards. I now have an appointment to the Naval Academy, yet the NROTC status continues to state "no decision has been made on your application". I have not figured this out.</p>
<p>Ok, the form letter arrives in the mail today. It was just that.
A blurb about competition, class standing, courses and grades, and SAT's. There sure must be some extreme superstars out there, of which my son is not one of them. He even had one of the least expensive schools in the nation as a choice on the application. They couldn't even give him that?
The recruiter was certainly wrong when he said that my son was a lock for this scholarship.
He invited to and will attend an awards dinner for students in our local area who are in the top 10% of his class. He is in NHS, he has always taken honors and AP courses and achieved mostly A's, and has mid 600's SATs. I agree the SAT's are a bit weak. </p>
<p>I wonder if they even looked at his application.</p>
<p>My son is really deflated, he will not even call his recruiter or the NROTC coordinator to discuss.</p>
<p>Anyway...sincere good wishes to all who received the scholarships and good luck to all who are waiting!</p>
<p>kevinsmom, I'm so sorry for your son's disappontment. My S is in NROTC so I know how much it means to them. If he does not get an appointment to USNA, he should consider going to one of his NROTC schools and joining through the College Program. I think he can then reapply for a scholarship through the NROTC unit. Best wishes to your S.</p>
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I just checked my son's application and, for the first time in 6 months the status has changed... I'm shocked it says he did not qualify for a scholarship, with more info to follow. Anyone else see this recently? On another thread recently a poster mentioned the board dates, so this must have been determined at the February Board. I say I am shocked because the recruiter was so positive about how overqualified my son was. He really gave us the impression that the scholarship was going to be easy for him to get. My son has great grades and good ec's. I'm surprised and disappointed for him. Has anyone else got bad news like this lately? He also applied USNA, but we all thought that was going to be more of a reach than the ROTC scholarship. He was accepted to the schools he put on the ROTC list too.?!?!?!?
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<p>and.... he was accepted to USNA!!!!! GRATS to Kevin and Kevinsmom!!!!!!!! :)</p>
<p>i wanted to reply on this thread since this is where the "Kevin watch" started! :)</p>
<p>Yes, I was so disappointed for him because for most the NROTC is back up! We can't believe he got USNA. He is over the moon! He just got back from a CVW that we asked to be invited to and he loved it! Can't wait to see the official packet from USNA!</p>
<p>Many congrats to your S, Kevinsmom. It's been a long road. Glad it turned out so well for your family.</p>
<p>What is the procedure for reapplying for a Navy ROTC scholarship after being turned down as a 16 year old Junior in High School, and I now have completed my Freshman year of college?</p>
<p>Contact the NROTC unit at your college or the unit at the college you hope to attend. The NROTC Officers could give you the best advice.</p>
<p>Thanks for the advice.
I was told to attend the "school of my choice" for a complete year as a Sophomore (which I actually start as a Sophomore in 3 weeks at my current school, which does not have a NROTC unit, so would need to transfer... timing is an issue now, so may have to start in Spring), participe fully in NROTC, and would then be considered afterward for a scholarship. Will keep working on it.</p>