<p>I am a rising senior male in high school and I am planning to be a Musical Theatre major in college. I've been doing some college research and I was wondering if anyone knew the number of students the programs at FSU, University of Michigan, Carnegie Mellon, Texas State, and NYU take. Does anyone know where I can find these numbers? I've looked at the college websites themselves but I have not been able to find them. Any help would be appreciated!</p>
<p>I can tell you that at FSU last year my D was told they accepted 5 people.</p>
<p>Jeffandann: 5 for each gender then?</p>
<p>The only program on that list that takes a large number is NYU. The rest are between 5 & 20 approximately. Small.</p>
<p>Five total is what she was told. It’s a very competitive process as you likely know. Where my D is going, they accepted 12 girls and 8 guys out of 700 that auditioned.</p>
<p>on the University of Michigan website… School of Music, Theatre and Dance… Musical Theatre department… FAQs “Each fall, 22-24 new students are admitted from the approximately 700 who apply”</p>
<p>Be aware that numbers can vary year-to-year for individual schools. Here are some class sizes from a thread for last year’s class:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/musical-theater-major/1355255-freshmen-mt-class-sizes-fall-2012-a.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/musical-theater-major/1355255-freshmen-mt-class-sizes-fall-2012-a.html</a></p>
<p>Baldwin Wallace MT: 16 (7 men and 9 women)
Ball State MT (BFA): 17 (8 men and 9 women)
Boston Conservatory MT 65 total (15 more accepted than anticipated)
Carnegie Mellon MT (BFA): 12 (7 men and 5 women)
CCM MT (BFA): 18 (9 men and 9 women)
Coastal Carolina MT (BFA): 10 (3 men and 7 women)
Elon MT (BFA): 18 (9 men and 9 women)
Emerson MT: 14 (13 women and 1 man)
University of Florida MT: 4 (2 men and 1 woman, 1 sophomore transfer)
Florida State MT: (BFA) 6; (BM) 3 (4 men and 5 women total)
Illinois Wesleyan MT: 7 (4 women, 3 men)
Hartt MT: (BFA) 23 (15 women, 8 men) Acting (BFA) 12 (8 men, 4 women)
Ithaca College MT (BFA): 21 (14 men and 7 women)
James Madison MT (BA): 14 (6 men and 8 women)
Michigan MT (BFA): 24 (14 men and 10 women)
New York University: Tisch NSB - 61, Steinhardt - ??
Northwestern U (BA + MT Cert): 15 frosh (6 men and 9 women) {*see post #21}
Oklahoma City MT: 27 (14 men and 13 women)
Otterbein MT (BFA): 8 (4 men and 4 women)
Otterbein Acting (BFA): 6 (2 men and 4 women)
Pace (BFA-MT): 35 (17 men and 18 women)
Penn State MT (BFA): 14 (6 men, 8 women)
Rider (BM MT): 10 men 20 women
Shenandoah MT (BFA): 18 (7 men and 11 women)
SUNY Fredonia MT (BFA): 14 (4 men and 10 women)
SUNY Fredonia Acting (BFA): 4 (1 man and 3 women)
Syracuse MT (BFA) 25 (13 men and 12 women)
Texas State Acting (BFA): 12 (6 men and 6 women)
Texas State MT: 12 (6 men and 6 women)
The Royal Conservatoire of Scotland MT (BA): 18 (3 American Students)
University of California, Los Angeles MT: 7 (3 men and 4 women)
University Of Northern Colorado MT: 16 (5 women and 11 men + 2 sophomore women transfers)
University of Utah (BFA): 22 (8 men and 14 women)
Wagner College (BA MT): 30 (15 men and 15 women)
Webster University (BFA MT): 19 Total
Webster University (BFA Acting) : 16 Total </p>
<p>These threads may also be of interest:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/musical-theater-major/503504-audition-class-size-numbers.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/musical-theater-major/503504-audition-class-size-numbers.html</a> (circa 2008)</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/musical-theater-major/1121192-audition-class-size-number-college-class-2015-a.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/musical-theater-major/1121192-audition-class-size-number-college-class-2015-a.html</a></p>
<p>Thank you guys so much for your help!</p>
<p>Keep in mind that number for Tisch (NYU) can be a little misleading. That number includes all 6 studios I think the Design and Production studio took less than 10. MT takes less than 2O I think. You can see how that leaves an even smaller pool to divide among the other four.</p>
<p>^^No, actually the numbers given on that chart for Tisch is about right. That is the number for New Studio on Broadway (NSB as noted on the list). That is just ONE studio. The number of 61 slots does NOT include the OTHER Tisch studios.</p>
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<p>It’s difficult to understand how a school can actually run a program with such a small class.</p>
<p>The number quoted for FSU could have been for just the BFA admits. FSU runs a joint BFA/BM program so the total number admitted last year could have been more like 10 when you include the BM admits, or vice-versa (the total I have seen quoted several times is around 9-10 each year admitted to FSU for MT).</p>
<p>The FSU number given to my D was just for MT. Only 5 this year; they said it was smaller than usual.</p>
<p>We were delighted to hear last year that the University of Texas was finally starting a dedicated MT program, but then were surprised to find out they planned to only admit 6 students per year:</p>
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<p>I have been told by MT faculty that the gating factor is sometimes the number of available Voice faculty for private lessons.</p>
<p>U of M’s incoming freshman MT class for '13-'14 consists of ten girls, 11 boys.</p>
<p>Oh, and Texas State takes 6 girls, 6 boys per year.</p>
<p>TCU (Texas Christian in Ft. Worth) only accepts 5 boys and 5 girls, period. If they only have 3-4 end up going there, then that is their class.
Roosevelt/CCPA has a new MT BFA dance emphasis to go along with their MT BFA voice emphasis and BFA Acting. They were shooting for 25 of each. Don’t know what the final tally is, I’ll tell you in a couple of weeks! ;-)</p>
<p>Question to those out there with more knowledge - when you list “class size” I assume you mean people who actually enroll, or those admitted?</p>
<p>ie - everyone involved with college recruiting in any way knows you have to admit N in order to enroll m where m < N.</p>
<p>So what is the difference (if known) between admits and enrolls?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Absolutely true and there is some confusion about that on this thread. Some of the more choosy programs don’t make a lot of offers because most people will attend. CMU and U of M are in this category. Probably Texas State as well because of affordability not many turn them down. But most of the others take many more than they expect to yield. The class size is not the number taken, it’s the number that chose to attend which could be a lot less.</p>
<p>Actor12 is correct. The number of acceptances is typically larger than the number enrolled in the entering class. Almost every school and program accepts more than they expect to yield (few exceptions, like CMU, as noted above). </p>
<p>Often people mix these numbers up on the Musical Theater Forum. The OP of THIS thread is asking numbers ACCEPTED. The helpful post (#7) by EmsDad on this topic from the past addresses CLASS SIZE (which is number yielded…basically the class size). Whatever list is used, it needs to be consistent as to what is being listed in terms of number (# accepted OR # yield / class size).</p>