NY English Regents

<p>I believe so.</p>

<p>Here is the whole listening passage. I don't think the last line was included in the test, but this is the whole introduction to Paulsen's book:</p>

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<p>Wow I was not expecting that stone fable thing on essay #3. I found it really hard. What was the lesson that was learned in the passage? The critical lens was pretty easy. I used Atticus Finch from To Kill A Mockingbird and John Proctor from The Crucible.</p>

<p>i dont remember all questions, but here are some answers:
captive
victor
control
____ (missing one)</p>

<p>Passage 2: thoughtfulness
"Never did I cry again after my nap." (what shows her ancestors influence)
gender roles
patriotism
her hard work (arranged marriage)
___ (missing one question)</p>

<p>same :d? and does anyone remember the 2 missing ones?</p>

<p>Passage 2:
thoughtfulness (rice cake)
"Never did I cry again after my nap." (what shows her ancestors influence)
gender roles
patriotism (something like, "we learned in school that our country is as sacred as our father's grave")
her hard work (arranged marriage)
___ (missing one question)</p>

<p>Wendy, I got those same answers, but I don't remember what the other ones were. </p>

<p>I messed my third essay up really badly. I said the lesson is that freedom isn't as it seems. I said the fable used irony to convey that the captor is captive by the "sleeping" rock (I mentioned personification). Then I said the father made historical allusions (but are allusions only made to books?) to a sturggle for freedom. It didn't have a good thesis at all, and my intro was flawed.</p>

<p>On the ciritcal lense, I disagreed with the quote. I used Antigone and Othello. I said that Creon took on the gods' law, but only wound up being hated. Then I said that Iago went up against highly ranked offcicials but also wound up being hated. This essay wasn't as bad.</p>

<p>I don't remember the second part of the mc at all, but most of the answers I got were the same.</p>

<p>That rock fable thing was just weird. I ended up making up some life lesson, like strength and character are determined by self identity or something. Haha, it sounded better when I was half asleep writing the essay.</p>

<p>As for the second essay, I think a ton of people will have used John Proctor and Atticus Finch. It was a pretty great topic but I was sad I couldn't use the Great Gatsby, I didn't prepare for using the Crucible at all.</p>

<p>oh ok i remember another mc question:
passage 1:
dialogue (which one was used to convey theme)</p>

<p>I DID use gatsby. i said that jay was a hero because he stood up to new york society's rich people even though they were "forces larger than him," which makes him a hero. he also continued to love daisy.
i also used age of innocence. countess ellen is a hero because she stood up to new york rich society as well, though forces "larger" wanted newland to marry may.</p>

<p>anyone remember the last mc question?</p>

<p>I found a way to use 1984, Gatsby, Antigone, Great Gatsby, Othello, Romeo & Juliet, Mockingbird, Crucible, and basically any book in the whole wide world except Green Eggs and Ham. I was so set an writing about it too. :/</p>

<p>Wendy, I got dialogue too! I was kind of iffy on that one because it didn't have any quotations. >_></p>

<p>the only answer that was plausible besides dialogue was description.
and there wasnt that much description...?</p>

<p>anyone know that last missing mc? its really annoying me. kthx.</p>

<p>OH! I think I might have something here. I don't remember any of the choices, but wasn't there a question that asked about "a bowl of rice, and another day to live"? Or something along those lines?</p>

<p>It was definitly dialogue, the entire passage was the mother and son talking to eachother.</p>

<p>hmmm..this session took me a bit longer to finish because I spent the first half hour sleeping at my desk, thus I had to wait for another bus.</p>

<p>Oh well, still not hard. The controlling idea I put about lessons was that parents teach them to their kids. The first passage was the mom not wanting her son to become like her (controlling) whereas the second was the dad wanting his daughter to be a hard worker like his mother, but also taught the lesson that freedom is important (I mean, I discussed that as well).</p>

<p>I tried to find the passages:</p>

<p>Passage 1:</p>

<p>A man ambushed a stone. Caught it. Made it a prisoner.
Put it in a dark room and stood guard over it for the
rest of his life.</p>

<p>His mother asked why.</p>

<p>He said, because it's held captive, because it is
captured.</p>

<p>Look, the stone is asleep, she said, it does not know
whether it's in a garden or not. Eternity and the stone
are mother and daughter; it is you who are getting old.
The stone is only sleeping.</p>

<p>But I caught it, mother, it is mine by conquest, he said.</p>

<p>A stone is nobody's, not even its own. It is you who are
conquered; you are minding the prisoner, which is yourself,
because you are afraid to go out, she said.</p>

<p>Yes yes, I am afraid, because you have never loved me,
he said.</p>

<p>Which is true, because you have always been to me as
the stone is to you, she said.</p>

<p>Parts of passage 2 can be found online, but it is recent and not public domain, so it is difficult to find the full excerpt.</p>

<p>I had a difficult time with the first essay of session two. I couldn't figure out a good unifying thesis. I eventually settled on something about lessons learned revealing personal truths. All in all, my essay was pretty terrible.</p>

<p>The critical lens was easy. I used 1984 and Huck Finn, both of which luckily fit merely with their plots and major themes. If I had known the crucible better, I would have used it instead of Huck Finn.</p>

<p>oh yea that was the last mc question!</p>

<p>i put the answer for that one: continuing struggles of the people (about the bowl of rice phrase)</p>

<p>same?
thx.
my unifying thesis for the first one was that freedom over onself is an important goal.</p>

<p>Wendy, that was my answer! Well, it seems very familiar at least.</p>

<p>oh crap. for the first one, the controlling idea had to be about "lessons learned"?</p>

<p>my thesis was both passages show that "freedom over oneself is an important goal." and in the conclusion i stated "the lesson of the day is that freedom over oneself is important." </p>

<p>does that count as answering the task given?</p>

<p>Yes it does. I belive the task was just to discuss a common lesson taught by the two passages.</p>

<p>Grade predictions anyone? I don't know how the test is graded, but I'm pretty sure I got none of hte MCQs wrong, and I'm really confident in a 6 for 3 of my essays. What does that give me?</p>

<p>I originally (during the test) thought that the assignment was to discuss the concept of learned lessons, not the actual lessons themselves. </p>

<p>Then after the test, I was worried because I thought it may have wanted a discussion of the common lesson(s) between the passages.</p>

<p>However, I am now confident that my original idea was correct based on previous years' exams. </p>

<p>For example, January's question:
After you have read the passages and answered the multiple-choice questions,


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<p>This test had the same model:


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<p>I think that meant it wanted something about the concept of learning lessons or the lessons one learns rather than the specific presented lessons. But the possible ambiguity might mean that teachers will accept either take on it.</p>

<p>well i hope mine counts too cuz i wrote like 3 pages lol. </p>

<p>is everybody taking us history?</p>