<p>This board tends to focus more on boarding schools, but I have a couple of quick questions about prep schools in New York. I know the application deadline has long passed, but I'm really interested in these schools and would like to learn more about them, even though I'm not going.</p>
<p>1) Is it anything like Gossip Girl? </p>
<p>2) Would it be possible to go to the school even if your family doesn't live in New York City? I know they don't have student housing, but there are several student residence programs in NYC. Is it crazy to think a fifteen year old could live on their own?</p>
<p>3) Admissions- is it tougher than HADES? How much do legacies count?</p>
<p>4) How do they compare to top Northeastern boarding schools in terms of academics? Athletics? Student life?</p>
<p>We applied for my son to Two of NY day schools. Dalton waitlisted him and Trinity School NY, selected him. We are waiting for result from Andover/Roxbury etc. from Boston Area. </p>
<p>I have a similar question and will really appreciate if somebody can answer:
How does selectivity stats compare among Trinity vs. Andover?
How is quality of academics compared?</p>
<p>In terms of % of kids going to IVY+SM, Trinity is slightly better than Andover but that may partly be due to very influential families that the students belong to at Trinity. </p>
<p>Living in NY is very expensive and tough. Andover has more resources but for us, employability/career prospects are better in NY. We currently stay in Michigan and are willing to move anywhere for our son’s best academics.</p>
<p>Any mature suggestions and inputs will be highly appreciated.</p>
<p>According to Peterson’s, Trinity’s acceptance rate was 23%. Andover had an acceptance rate of 16.6% last year. Note that the applicant pools of both schools are quite different. Andover draws students from all around the coutry and internationally as well while Trinity’s applicants are mostly from NYC. </p>
<p>I don’t know much about Trinity, but I’d think its academics is on par with Andover’s. The main difference between the two schools is probably the fact that one is set up as a boarding school while the other a day school in the city. The whole experience in terms of extracurricular activities and social life can be very different. I think that Roxbury is more comparable with Trinity.</p>
<p>Horace Mann, Trinity, Dalton, and Riverdale are the top schools in the city that are on par with Andover. HOrace mann’s acceptance rate was 10%.</p>
<p>I am applying to all top tier boarding schools, but I have attended NYC prep schools my entire life.</p>
<p>1) In ways it is a lot like Gossip Girl, but not in the ways you would think. When you see the inside of the school on the show (which is rare), that is about what it looks like, maybe a little less wood and more steel and metal. Socially it is pretty different. People do like money and all, but things are less cut throat. Like any school really.</p>
<p>2) It is not common that people who live far away attend, but not impossible. Some schools have host family oppurtunities for international students, and there are a pretty sizable amount of kids that live alone and attend high school.</p>
<p>3)Admission are very different then Hades in the sense that IMHO in the city they look a lot more at your name and you money. The selectivity is about the same.</p>
<p>4) Boarding schools are probably (maybe with the exception of brearly) a little more rigorous in term of academics. Social life is very evident in the city, more so then i could ever imagine at bs.</p>
<p>Good luck and happy i could help.
ALMOST MARCH 10 I AM DYING!</p>
<p>^^^ - The only opportunities for international students is when two particular schools (one in nyc one abroad) have a reciprocal program. Then the kids come during their break – i.e. NY kids go during spring break for a week to 10 days, and then the partner school kids come for their break and stay with host family for that amount of time. There is NOT a sizable amount of kids that live alone and attend high school. True some parents travel all the time (or are in rehab) thus de facto making the kids live by themselves, but one cant apply as a student living on your own. Also those kids usually do have an extensive staff taking care of them.
Most kids that attend NYC day schools, do so from kindergarden. The ones that apply for high school do so mostly for these reasons - 1)boys attend primary schools that end in 9th grade (there are 4 of those), if they want to stay in the City for HS they have a choice of co-ed schools and the 2 K-12 boys schools 2)girls that attend girls schools (those are all K-12) and want to switch to co-ed 3) kids from the 2 co-ed schools that end in 8th grade 4) prep-for prep kids and kids that attend PS6 that ends in 6th grade 5) random cases of people moving into NYC 6) kids that got asked to leave a school, going to a lesser school
In terms of looking at your name and family - yes, sure, but just the same as at BS
Academic rigor - the top NYC schools are as rigorous as the top BS, the lower level ones are a bit more rigorous than their BS counterparts
Gossip Girl factor – a lot of whats on the show is a distillation of fact, so on some level its much more over the top so seeing 14yr old girls wearing $3,000 Balenciaga bags is not a rare occurrence, and a whole bunch do go to nightclubs starting in 10th grade, but on the whole kids are busy being kids.</p>
<p>I suppose I’m obligated to comment here as the father of two son’s in NYC day schools. My sons have been in an N-8 coed day school since N and are now in 8th and 5th grade. As I generally describe the situation in conversation, the school is kicking my older son out this year (of course, this annoys him, but tough luck). He’s applying to L’ville (surprise!) and has applied to some of the schools here in NYC. He also applied to Stuyvesant/Bronx Science et al (it’s all done with one test).</p>
<p>Although my sons have stayed in place (the younger one is very unlikely to leave), there is a fair amount of movement amongst schools at various age ranges. Certainly, many children move after N to a new school for K. Also, 6th grade is a common entry point at many of the schools that go through HS. My 5th grader’s class will undoubtedly see some attrition this year from students moving to “beat the 8th grade rush”. Some kids will take a shot at a top ongoing school now figuring if they get in, great, if not, they’ve got another shot in a few years. We didn’t “apply out” for either of my sons at any point along the way. Some children are indeed “counselled out” to less rigorous schools and some to LD schools at various stages. In those cases, the student usually benefits from that happening in the long run. (My nephew was allowed to stay at Horace Mann until much too late an age for his true needs. This did no one any favors).</p>
<p>In NYC we have lots and lots of independents schools with high schools (see my website [Matriculation</a> Stats](<a href=“http://www.matriculationstats.org%5DMatriculation”>http://www.matriculationstats.org) for a listing of the ones that release their college matriculation stats - there are almost as many others). The top tiers ones are certainly comparable to the top tier prep schools in terms of academic rigor in all aspects. Their athletic programs admittedly do suffer somewhat do to space considerations. But because we have so many schools we have a variety of them just as there are a variety of boarding schools. Some are more academically rigorous and some are less. That applies to both types.</p>
<p>As to kids living alone while attending school, you’ve watched too many episodes of NYC Prep. My inside sources tell me that even the kid in that show who was portrayed as living alone doesn’t actually live alone. Don’t believe everything you see on TV. My kids have never spent a night without adult supervision (sure, we’ve gone to dinner and left them alone - they’re old enough for that) and they are several years away from a night alone.</p>