Funny, isn’t it? They apparently have no idea that they live in their own echo chamber (everyone does). Probably because 90+% of academia and news media are on their side.
@Zinhead the correct names are Mother Jones and Bernie Sanders.
@awcntdb I think you are mistaken. The progressives won the actual vote by over 3 million votes for president. In the US Senate races they had about ten million more votes. So gerrymandering and the electoral college to some people are a wonderful thing. Your 60 per cent number has nothing to do with the will of the people by any stretch of the imagination.
I have actually litigated cases as an attorney involving constitutional law. I have never seen anyone ask the judge for an originalist view. If we were to follow your viewpoint we could conclude that the right to bear arms only applies to muskets not AK47s or guns with silencers. We could also conclude that the government has no right to regulate abortion since it was not part of the original meaning of the constitution. I am good with that are you?
Hillsdale will do or say anything to represent a political point of view which is totally and completely inconsistent with a majority of Americans viewpoint
“Under what rock have you been living?” A rock that doesn’t believe in alternative facts, one that doesn’t believe in discrimination , and one that believes in science.
I hope that helps
If you think about it a bit, you will realize that it is not possible to gerrymander a state-wide election for a Senator.
“If you think about it a bit, you will realize that it is not possible to gerrymander a state-wide election for a Senator”.
That is correct. However the house of reps as well as most state legislatures have been gerrymandered . You do realize that.
Here is a good article for you to read
http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2016/07/19/gerrymandering-republicans-redmap
^If we’re talking about gerrymandering districts, I think we’ve gone way off topic.
No, you can’t gerrymander Senate seats but that’s a ridiculous metric considering that each state has an equal number of senators and states don’t have an equal number of people.
It’s just flat out wrong to even suggest that somehow the House, Senate, and even the president reflect American political demographics considering gerrymandering, disproportionate representation by sparsely populated red states, and lost by nearly 3M votes. Respectively.
I do think it’s interesting that conservatives don’t flock to these conservative schools. Then again only a few are “highly rated” by CC standards.
You realize this was by design, right?
No, that is completely false on its face, and I think you know better. It’s comparing Hillsdale’s approach to those of other schools, where multiple approaches to interpreting the Constitution are taken, and where the school itself hasn’t declared an ideological stance and required every student to take a course in which that stance is espoused.
For some reason people think the USA is a democracy. It is not. It is a republic. Hillsdale offers an excellent, free online course on the constitution which is far better than I ever had in HS or undergrad classes. Let’s not stray anymore into politics, please. You can download the federalist papers for free on Kindle, Google Books or Nook.
https://online.hillsdale.edu/course/con101/schedule
@romanigypsyeyes , one reason we did not send our kids to Hillsdale is that they do have engineering or business. The college is very community involved and has hosted Science Olympiad tournaments for mid-Michigan, so many locals know it well.
Not really though. Because, alla Hillsdale, an originalist argument is the Constitution gives the power to legislatures to do such redistricting. If people do not like it, then they should get an amendment to change it, as Hillsdale would teach.
But, ironically, the people who complain about gerrymandering now, are the same ones who used to make sure in the Jim Crow South there were a certain percentage of black congressional seats. Many of those districts are still in place. So, when it comes to the Constitution, be careful what you complain about because you may easily destroy something that you like.
“Not really though. Because, alla Hillsdale, an originalist argument is the Constitution gives the power to state legislatures to do such redistricting. If people do not like it, then they should get an amendment to change it, as Hillsdale would teach.”
Yes really. You may want to read the first amendment and the equal protection clause. Hopefully they teach that at Hillsdale. I am complaining about it and I never complained about the Jim Crow south
Originalism isn’t exclusively the domain of conservatives. Akhil Reed Amar may not embrace the conclusions of conservative court justices, but he does embrace much of their methodology.
Of course, “science” is practiced by scientists (people) with all their biases, jealousies, etc. For example, supporters of one theory try to suppress those of a competing theory. Happens all the time, even in the hard sciences.
Yes! And the beauty of the method is that over time all those theories are held to scrutiny.
Who will be doing the scrutinizing? Those who are in the “consensus” … and history has shown that, even in the hard sciences, the consensus was wrong on every theory (best case is that the consensus theory at any given time was an approximation to the actual physical phenomena). The soft sciences are much worse.
Yes–history has shown us that expressly because that sort of long-term, never-settled-til-it’s-proven method is the heart of science. Scientists are often wrong, always flawed, never exempt from the failings of the rest of us. In the near term, that can have horrible consequences. But the beauty of the method is that in the long term, eventually, the method reveals those flaws and works to find some of the few things that can be knowable as truth.
Yeah. This isn’t what I intended. Let’s not discuss politics. I remember getting in trouble during my HSL days.
The truly bizarre thing about Hillsdale is not that they teach an originalist view of the Constitution but that every student must take a class in it. My LAC let me take my choice of many history classes, literature classes, etc. to cover a very broad base of core requirements.
vickisocal— I guess hillsdale is not for you.just out of curiosity have you seen some of the truly bizarre indoctrination courses being forced on students at many colleges across the united states starting over the last several years? they are truly bizarre and scary stuff. including at state schools which should be barred from that practice.
not to worry followers of saul alinsky and his ilk have an iron grip on 99% of colleges. hillsdale is one tiny little school and is hardly a threat to the attempted mass introduction at most schools .