NYTimes Article on Asians at Cal

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Plus, the black people who do get in on merit alone are looked down upon because people may assume that AA got them in. This is not fair at all for them, and I think that is the reason why many URMs are against AA, and wish to not be affiliated with it. Really, the system is unfair for everyone, and it's just stupid how the color of one's skin can make a difference. In some ways, I think MLK Jr. would be disgusted; he spent his life trying to have people look beyond skin color, and now, it's been reduced to checkboxes. Wonderful.

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I have a few Black friends who don't like AA just for that very reason. And about MLK Jr. -- I totally agree. He would've wanted to uplift his people and foster a culture of learning rather than one where you can count on something like AA (of course this is only speculation and I'm not trying to put words in his mouth).</p>

<p>My high school also had a vast Asian majority (around 60%)...</p>

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I find it ironic that the white conservatives that fought so hard to eliminate race as a factor in admissions, unwittingly shot themselves in the foot, and are now backpedalling away from Prop 209.

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Source for claim that white conservatives are backpedalling, please.</p>

<p>Also, Princeton study by Espenshade et. al:

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Espenshade noted that when one group loses ground, another has to gain -- in this case it would be Asian applicants. Asian students would fill nearly four out of every five places in the admitted class not taken by African-American and Hispanic students, with an acceptance rate rising from nearly 18 percent to more than 23 percent.

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<p>You should note that while the summary article here makes no attempt to hide its bias ("devastate"), the study itself is much more neutral.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S11/80/78Q19/index.xml?section=newsreleases%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S11/80/78Q19/index.xml?section=newsreleases&lt;/a>
<a href="http://opr.princeton.edu/faculty/Tje/EspenshadeSSQPtII.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://opr.princeton.edu/faculty/Tje/EspenshadeSSQPtII.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I dont mind AA as long as URMs dont mind it cuz it is self-degrading to them...not me. As for having a disadvantage in the admissions process, I try to think of it as a payment to those who have had less educational opportunities than I have. The only people I feel for are the poor asians and whites..they truely get the worse end of that deal.</p>