<p>Does anyone know what it is like? I know that you have academic classes Monday Wednesday and Studio Tuesday Thursday Friday, and I also know that there is one required academic class (Essay writing) but I don’t know what else is required academically. I want to possibly double major and at least minor, and was wondering about what studio classes I will be taking as well as academic. Any help would be awesome</p>
<p>chris</p>
<p>Hi chris,</p>
<p>If you don't mind my asking, could you share any stats as far as high school academics, were you a top student? I don't know much about nyu but from what i've heard, it would be very ambitious of you to double major, and maybe even minor while in cap21. From the information i've gleaned on this forum and at the information seminar at tisch, the academic portion of the mt program at nyu is very demanding. I wonder if my d will even be up for it, should she have the opportunity and choose to go there that is! I think she plans on taking it a little easier academically in college than she has in high school, which if she gets into a bfa pgm, may be possible as most of them aren't stressing the math and science stuff. Of course she is looking forward to the intesive performance classes/rehearsals/etc! Apparently it's the hours spent outside of the classroom from those mon/wed academic days at nyu on homework for the academics (I think we were quoted 4 hours per week per class) that eats away at your free/down time, and maybe at any opportunity to double major? What would you like to double major/minor in?
Eileen</p>
<p>Chris.....I can tell you about freshman year in CAP. Academic classes are indeed on Mon. and Wed. One of these is the Writing the Essay course which is both semesters and one semester it is Art and the World and the other is The World through Art (I think I have the titles right but that's close). While the course focus is the essay, it revolves around arts and culture. The first semester has a lecture four times per semester and then small sections twice per week. The second semester has one weekly lecture and two sections twice per week. The other academic courses are Intro. to Theater Production and Intro. to Theater Studies and you can choose to take either one first but must take both freshman year. Intro. to Theater Production deals with all aspects of theater and there are required crew assignments, as well as exams. My D took that one this past semester. Intro. To Theater Studies, I think deals more with plays and the subject of theater itself. She's taking it next. All Tisch Drama students take these courses, not just CAP21 students, so you'll be with kids from other studios on those days. </p>
<p>Then Tues., Thurs., and Friday, you have your studio from 9-6 each day. The courses include Acting, Vocal Technique (I hope I have the title of that right but it is a small group of about 9 kids and they work on voice and also individualized songs), Ballet, Jazz, Tap (each of those dance classes meets twice/week so that is six dance classes per week total....and for each of those there is dance placement and there are four levels of each for just freshmen), Voice and Speech, and Music Theory (Music Theory has a placement exam the first day and there are about three levels of it and a few kids place out which my D did so she is not in that class). That is first semester freshman year. Second semester is almost the same except you ALSO have private voice. The group voice class also continues and may be called Vocal Performance (sorry if the name is not exact) and the group is larger but continues to still give out individualized songs as well as working in a group. You keep the same instructors for the entire year. You are in sections of 20 students (or less) and keep that section for everything, except dance is by level so the kids are mixed for that but still 20 or less per group. </p>
<p>So, freshman year, you are not picking your academic classes, as they are set for you. Your studio is as well. </p>
<p>After that year, you do pick your academic classes and there are some broad distribution requirements where you must take a certain number of courses from broad areas. Also, there are some theater core academic classes required for Tisch (that are academic, not studio ones). You can minor in another subject and possibly double major (that's harder). Minor is not hard to work out. The studio continues to be three full days per week but the courses change some from what I just gave you. But no matter what, you continue in dance, voice, and acting every semester and private voice every semester. You can change studios after two years, if you wish a different experience. CAP21 has a new senior year program (you have had to have been in CAP all four years to do it) where they spend the entire fall semester with industry professionals including casting directors and others and it culminates in its own showcase in Dec. for agents and casting directors. This is separate from the Tisch showcase in spring. They recently had it and it was successful. </p>
<p>You can visit the website for Tisch and for CAP as well where they outline the academic course requirements from the Tisch core, your studio, and the academic distribution requirements. I will mention that the list of studio classes for CAP, to me, seems not updated as I know it is not correct for freshmen at the very least. I think the courses you'll see listed for CAP studio are ones you will have over the four years but may not be accurate in terms of the sequence per semester, from what it appears. </p>
<p>Hope this helps. </p>
<p>Susan</p>
<p>Eileen, I did not see your post when I posted but you can definitely minor in another subject while in a BFA program at Tisch. Many do. I know someone who fulfilled pre med while in CAP too. It is harder to double major but I guess some do that. By the way, you do not HAVE to take pure math or science courses at Tisch. You have to take two courses from an area of "sciences" but that area is quite broadly defined and in fact, includes political science, psychology, anthropology, and other less math/science-y subjects....just so you know....my D, who happens to excel at math but will never take another math class again as she doesn't like it and has gone through Calculus, and hates science, will be able to fulfill this two course requirement in areas she truly likes. </p>
<p>I should add that academics does not take away from the studio work or working on shows, etc. My D was attracted to NYU, in part, as it values and includes some academics and she truly enjoys other studies/subjects even though she also wanted the hardcore conservatory training she gets in their BFA program. Tisch prepares students to be "thinkers" and educated actors who are not only trained in theater skills but also are "educated" along the way. My daughter commented recently that she is very glad she opted for a BFA program that has some academics because she truly enjoys learning, even though her passion is musical theater. I'll add that the concept of "free time" is nonexistant in most BFA programs with school all day, homework (there is also homework/prep for studio classes), rehearsals, crew assignments, and other activities. While a busy lifestyle, in my view, it is similar to the hours my D kept in high school all day and night (though is up later in college....no restrictions, lol). It is definitely not like a typical college schedule.</p>
<p>Susan</p>
<p>Susan,</p>
<p>We must have posted within seconds of each other! I guess the academic portion of your d's pgm, sounds like it is mostly conservatory type classes, which would not seem like homework to my d, even if they do assign it. Of course the humantity type sciences will be a pleasure from the BA type academic courses that my d also would be happy never to have to take again! As far as free/down time, I probably mean it the way you do "other activities."</p>
<p>eileen</p>
<p>melsmom...i have definatley no problem posting my stuff...here it is:</p>
<p>gpa 3.48 unweighted
sat 1960 (1300 on the old)
sat II in bio 750
no rank out of 100, top school in indiana
ap's: 8 in Music Theory, English Literature, English Language, Spanish Language, Biology, Statistics, Computer Science AB, World History</p>
<p>i think the things that set me apart in the pool were my number of aps in correlation to my gpa. i think that really helped, because my course load was incredibly demanding ( i like it that way) and i still found time to dance, sing, act...also, some of my extra cirriculars are extremely important. i am an eagle scout, and also a two time All-State athelete for lacrosse. i also have a part time job. so i really think that my whole profile (my essays were very good and so were the recs (an nyu grad and a doctor in english from duke))...was important to their decision </p>
<p>now all this is from an academic point of view. personally, i thought that my audition could not have gone better. and i really think, from what i have read and heard on here...that nyu values both very much. </p>
<p>i hope this helps, and anyone with questions feel free to pm me or ask here...</p>
<p>chris</p>
<p>Well chris,</p>
<p>I am very impressed and would have to say that nyu is lucky to have you, and...well...DAMN!</p>
<p>eileen</p>
<p>haha thank you very much, i appreciate it</p>
<p>good luck with your d, and remember, any questions feel free (even next year once i am there)</p>
<p>chris</p>
<p>"Vocal Technique (I hope I have the title of that right but it is a small group of about 9 kids and they work on voice and also individualized songs)...The group voice class also continues and may be called Vocal Performance (sorry if the name is not exact) and the group is larger but continues to still give out individualized songs as well as working in a group."</p>
<p>The way it worked over the summer and what they told us, if I remember correctly, is that first semester, you have the vocal technique class which is indeed the small class where you learn, well, technique. Then second semester, instead of Vocal Tech, you begin taking 2 credit private voice lessons and begin Vocal Perf. Which basically you learn how to perform a song. Tech and voice lessons work on technical aspects of the voice, perf is performing the song. I belive the "working in a group" is what you do in Musical Scene Study. You are assigned duets, trios and what not to perform. I think you also might do transitions, like scene into song or vice versa...but don't quote me on that one.</p>
<p>TheaterGuy...that pretty much is it, yes. I should clarify when I wrote about Vocal Performance...."continues to still give out individualized songs as well as working in a group".....I was trying to say (not well!) that in both Vocal Tech and in Vocal Performance, the class setting is a group. But in both classes, individualized songs were also given out to work on and perform in class. Neither class is Musical Scene Study though. My D said in Vocal Tech....early in the semester, the entire group worked on the same song but eventually they were assigned individual songs to work on and do in class. For next semester, they already are assigned their first individualized song. Again, the class is a group setting. You are right that Vocal Performance usually means performing a song whereas vocal tech is more technique oriented. I imagine Musical Scene Study is a course in future years in studio. And yes, private voice lessons start second semester freshmen year in ADDITION to the classes in voice. </p>
<p>I didn't realize you had done the summer program but since you did, I'm sure you got the "scoop"!
Susan</p>