NYU or Mcgill?

<p>The title says it all...which would you choose and why?</p>

<p>McGill.
NYU is way too crowded, polluted, etc.
I think I would have a better cultural and academic experience at McGill.</p>

<p>These are actually my 1 and 2. I haven't heard back from either yet, but if I get into both I think I will choose McGill.
A.) It is a far cheaper school and city
B.) Both are located in the heart of large cities, but McGill not only has a traditional/true campus, it has a beautiful and large one.
C.) I am interested in becoming fluent in French and that would probably be easier in Montreal
D.) Though sports aren't huge at McGill, they're certainly more followed by students than they are at NYU
E.) I really like the idea of attending college in a foreign country
F.) The skiing is way better in Quebec than in say, the Catskills
G.) The drinking age is 18 and the party scene seems far bigger/ more social
H.) More people play intramural sports at McGill
I.) While NYC obviously has a ton of museums, McGill has its own museum which NYU doesn't</p>

<p>However, I plan on majoring in Art History and NYU has one of the best programs on the continent, which makes the decision tough...but I think I'd rather go to NYU for grad school anyways.</p>

<p>I would chose McGill, but I desperately want to emigrate to Canada.... or at least spend a couple of years there.</p>

<p>What about personal attention?
How are the professors at Mcgill in comparison to NYU?
How about career counseling and internships?</p>

<p>I'm applying to both as well. I'd probably choose NYU, as long as finances work out, because of it's excellence in the programs I am interested in, as well as the fact that it's NYC. But I haven't visited Montreal or McGill yet though, so...</p>

<p>BWB07 - you have a lot of the same reasons as I for interest in McGill.</p>

<p>On a side not, I imagine the students at NYU are a bit more impressive academically than those at McGill.</p>

<p>^that really depends. NYU students will be rich, and relatively mediocre students. McGill students will be middle class, and relatively mediocre students.
McGill's medicority comes from it's 60% quota for Quebecers. NYU's mediocrity comes from the fact that many of the students who are overqualified turn it down because they are stingy with money. That is why so many kids who got into NYU and got merit aid still end up at McGill. In the end, it probably evens out, but programs vary.</p>

<p>NYU Stern is better than McGill Desaultes for business, but McGill science/engineering is better than NYU. </p>

<p>Both have some very smart students, but both make it relatively easy for unqualified kids to get in.</p>

<p>The students at both schools think they are way smarter than they actually are, and both schools have a better reputation abroad then they do locally. Most people who live in New York are not impressed by meeting someone who goes to NYU, just as nobody in Montreal cares if you go to McGill.</p>

<p>On a more positive note, both schools do attract top professors (Except for the management program at McGill, which is a joke).</p>

<p>I go to McGill, BTW. I also know a fair number at NYU, and have spent time there. McGill is cool, Montreal is nice, but McGill is overcrowded. For whatever reason, the kids in freshamn classes are usually unimpressive. McGill is very hard, and by 3rd year, the kids are really smart, as many of the dummies drop out. NYU probably gets slightly better students out the gate (w/the exception of science and math) but NYU is not super challenging in comparison (I know a kid who went to U of T and then NYU-and said NYU was WAY easier).</p>

<p>I have to agree with everything said about mcgill management by wutangfinancial. The schools reputation far exceeds the actual worth of the program.</p>

<p>My son got into both McGill Business and NYU Stern. He was planning to study Finance, and he ended up liking the NYU program better so he chose that. It worked out well for him, he really took to New York.</p>

<p>Now the younger one is hoping for McGill - it's his first choice. So we've got our fingers crossed for him.</p>

<p>^I didn't mean to sound overly negative, McGill is going really well for me. If you have any questions on programs, etc, let me know. I transferred here with the help of others, so I'm just trying to pay it forward.</p>

<p>is the management program really a joke?</p>

<p>Short answer: No.</p>

<p>Long answer: No, But McGill's Management program isn't even the best in the city of Montreal. There are two schools with better programs, Concordia's John Molson School and L'Universite de Montreal (French) are better. McGill's big advantage however is the name and connections. People from Goldman Sachs, Merill Lynch, UBS and The Big Canadian Banks (capitalized on purpose) from Bay Street in Toronto all recruit at McGill. However, the program itself is such a joke that people from Concordia who want to get into the John Molson School often do a semester at McGill's Management school to bump up their GPA's, when Concordia's administration found out about this, they raised the GPA requirement for McGill transfer students.</p>

<p>The problem with the program is that it's really competitive which pushes up the requirements but the actual program itself does not reflect this. Oh and everyone at McGill secretly hates Management students because they're partying from Wednesday onward while the rest of us bust our balls to get B's (alliteration was unintended).</p>

<p>ICrisis,</p>

<p>I've heard alot about Mcgill's Econ/Finance hns joint program through these forums. Can you shed any light? Is it extremely tough?</p>

<p>Yes it is an extremely tough program, very demanding on the academic level. But primarily it is a economic program, with a few finance courses.</p>

<p>How do people who do well in the program fare after graduating?</p>

<p>Random unrelated question: I thought I heard that McGill has few general education requirements, and those that exist can be easily covered by AP credit. Is this true. Specifically, what are the mandatory math requirements (if any)?</p>

<p>Single Variable Calculus (140,141 or other calculus) - can be replaced by AP
Basic Linear Algebra (133) - cannot be replaced by AP, possibly replaced by IB (not usual though), can be replaced by placement exam.</p>

<p>Honours econ is next to impossible on purpose. 1st year Honors econ started out with 145 students; the class is already down to 90 and it's a full year course. You have to take into account only very dedicated students started out in honours as there is some self-selection-there are 300 who decided to be regular econ majors right out of the gate. </p>

<p>If you make it through honours, you can get some of the best jobs in Canada or even the U.S. for that matter. </p>

<p>I didn't make it through honours, and neither did a single one of my friends in the class (about 10 kids). If you plan to do honours, you CAN make it-but take Calc 1-3 first! Buy the micro text ahead of time and practice optimality type problems. Nobody in honours will be willing to help you. You have to be self-motivated.</p>

<p>Honours Econ is incredibly hard at McGill. Econ at McGill is very underrated because the main program is not very math focused like UofT's (best in the country) but that's because the Honours program picks up the slack. Have any of you ever seen a final Honours exam at McGill? It's literally enough to make me cry like a little b!itch.</p>

<p>Is this a serious discussion? McGill dominates NYU (RE: Times Higher Educaiton rankings - McGill 12th in the world, NYU 50th). Best ranked public school in North America. </p>

<p>I go to a canadian university (Western), and FYI, McGill is the toughest school to get into in Canada, and much tougher than NYU. Admissions averages are 90% and most students come from top private schools. There is not a single student at McGill who is not brilliant.</p>