NYU Stern Vs. Cornell ILR

<p>Hey everyone. I was blessed to gain admission to both NYU Stern and Cornell's ILR program. The only problem is, I have to chose one. I have always known that I have wanted to do business so, from what I understand, ILR would be able to prepare me for exactly what I would wanna do (be an agent for FIFA) and so would Stern. I just don't know which one to chose. I have visited NYU and the fact that they have a non-existent campus didn't really bother me, the Stern program seemed both promising and interesting and the city is something that I have always liked and wanted to experience. On the other hand, I was really surprised to get into Cornell and I really like the school. I haven't visited but I am going in roughly a week. My friend is there and said that she loves it so I have heard nothing but good things. And the other thing about Cornell is that if I don't like business/ILR, there are so many other fantastic opportunities at Cornell that, correct me if i'm wrong, NYU wouldn't be able to live up to. Another thing about Cornell that I really like is the natural scenery, since I'm from Oregon where there is a very strong natural life, I feel like Cornell may make me feel like I'm still in Oregon, which would be comforting if I felt like I was homesick. The only real concerns are that I have for Cornell is, what if I don't like ILR? If I kept up a good GPA at Cornell, would I be able to transfer to AEM? And I'm just nervous that I won't be able to compete at Cornell. I just feel like I'm not that strong of a writer, too big of a procrastinator and not enough of a self-motivator to be able to be successful at a place like Cornell. </p>

<p>If anyone has had a similar situation in front of them, please comment. I would love to hear how you handled it and if you ever had any regrets. </p>

<p>Thanks a lot everyone.</p>

<p>Cornell has a bigger name. If you want prestige and companies coming after you, choose cornell. NYU Stern isn’t hard to get into. You should see the number of kids we already got in stern [Colleges</a> of the class of 2010 - Stuyclopedia](<a href=“http://www.schoolwiki.jesseweiman.com/Colleges_of_class_of_2010]Colleges”>http://www.schoolwiki.jesseweiman.com/Colleges_of_class_of_2010).</p>

<p>I have to choose between cornell engineering, JHU, CMU and dartmouth.</p>

<p>A dog can get into Stern.</p>

<p>Go for ILR</p>

<p>Stern is the higher ranked business school with a superior location. The only advantage Cornell has is the Ivy League prestige, which doesn’t mean much since Cornell is notorious for being the easiest Ivy League to get into with the largest class sizes by far.</p>

<p>ILR is more labor-oriented than Stern if I’m not mistaken. Stern is more of a flat-out business program (finance, marketing, and whatnot), in the “heart” of New York City.</p>

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<p>I am going to say it again here that I do not believe in UG business degree…AEM or Stern.</p>

<p>NYU is overrated and it is expensive. It is one of the most expensive schools in the US. NYC is great if you have a lot of money to spend, it is no fun to be a poor student on a budget. My daughter always wanted to be in NYC, so she applied to Columbia (she didn’t get in). After being on her own at Cornell for few years, she realized the college experience she’s having relative to her friends at big cities is much better. She will be interning in NYC this summer and working there after graduation. She will have a lot more money to enjoy NYC than as a student.</p>

<p>Name recognition - Cornell is a better name than NYU any where in the world. We have a global economy now. It is very likely at some point in your life you would be working overseas.</p>

<p>Opportunities (options) - there are 7 schools (I think that’s right) at Cornell. You could transfer to other schools if you have good enough grades, unlike schools like Columbia where it would be hard to transfer from SCEA to CAS. Even if you stay within ILR, you could take courses at other schools. My daughter is taking accounting at Hotel and finance at AEM as an A&S student.</p>

<p>The only thing is the location/weather of Cornell. It is harder to get adjusted to if you are from a warm climate. But many people also love the snow and the scenery. Since you are from Oregon, you probably would appreciate it. You could work in a city for the rest of your life, why not enjoy a college town and have a traditional college experience.</p>

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<p>as a Cornell alum and current NYC resident, I disagree. Superior location after you graduate, yes, but spending college in Ithaca is an incredible experience that is far too often overlooked by the younger crowd. Then again, I suppose the “superior location” depends on how deep your pockets are since you will need a whole lot of $ for NYC.</p>

<p>Besides, nobody in NYC likes NYU kids.</p>

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this will be a key part of your decision</p>

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true, NYC is a huge adjustment for some people. This place is not for everyone and you need to develop that tough outer shell, which, IMO can be tough as you’re also adjusting to college life.</p>

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Likely, but don’t focus on “studying business”. It sounds harsh, but my company doesn’t care too much for “business” degrees. They’re usually fluffy and a high percentage of the stuff they teach really needs to be seen on the job. Focus more on a well rounded education so dabble in the arts, econ, history, math, writing, etc. This will be far more important to your future goals, though it can be achieved in both AEM and ILR.</p>

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You will be surrounded by smart and motivated people, learn from them and follow their lead.</p>

<p>Not a strong writer? Try this: [Writing</a> Walk-In Service - Knight Institute for Writing in the Disciplines](<a href=“http://www.arts.cornell.edu/knight_institute/walkin/walkin.htm]Writing”>http://www.arts.cornell.edu/knight_institute/walkin/walkin.htm)</p>

<p>i feel like ILR is a better place to LEARN and EXPLORE…</p>

<p>but if you want a well structured solid business program go for stern…</p>

<p>i’d rather u go to stern than go ilr and then transfer to aem</p>

<p>i’m not sure how important WRITING is to a general business major…but i think every ILR class I had required at least 1 major paper…sometimes several :x</p>

<p>business majors i’m guessing require more problem sets, case studies and group/individual projects?</p>

<p>btw someone mentioned NYC being expensive…well in terms of food and entertainment…ithaca is probably pricier…</p>

<p>if u know where to look you can eat real cheap in NYC (or so i hear?)</p>

<p>also being from oregon i’d imagine it would be easier to get home having several major airports less than an hour away.</p>

<p>freshman writing seminars at cornell are pretty much a waste…i wish they would integrate those more with your MAJOR’s curriculum…</p>

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<p>Bingo.</p>

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<p>Cornell wouldn’t admit you if they didn’t think you could do the work. You will have to work hard and get rid of your procrastination habits. But you are much more likely to be an anonymous number at Stern.</p>

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<p>$18 to see Alice in Wonderland at the theater next to me isn’t helping much. With that handy Cornell ID, Ithaca is far cheaper. </p>

<p>And you can eat great on the cheap in NYC. In fact, not far from NYU is Babbo, and despite all entrees under $29, it can absolutely compete with some of the best in the city (and the world). But have fun getting a table, you’ll need to plan a month ahead. Aside from this, I don’t find the NYU area to be very cheap at all. Some stuff is cheap, but it’s pretty crappy. Some stuff is rip off, and it’s still pretty crappy. You’ll spend a lot of money finding the “insider” restaurants, but your bill might be ruined by $14 cocktails.</p>

<p>LOL @ any insinuation that Greenwich Village is cheap.</p>

<p>“nobody in NYC likes NYU kids”
wth. this does not make sense whatsoever.
NYU Stern is harder to get into than Cornell ILR. Yes, NYU’s financial aid isn’t the best but if you get into Stern they do offer good aid. Plus NYU Stern= more connections,internships and business opportunities. (Not saying that you wouldn’t get that from Cornell but I’d go to stern if i were you)</p>

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<p>I’m sure ILR would give you better arguing/debate skills than this. I say that NYC people don’t really like NYU kids (both my observation and opinion), and you go off on this rant about which one is harder to get into, business connections, etc.</p>

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<p>^^^actually that’s not the case. When my daughter was interviewing this winter, every place she went there were more students from Cornell (yes it is bigger school than NYU) and Cornell alums organized many networking opportunities for students. On the other hand, she didn’t see as many kids from NYU. To be very blunt, when she was doing her final round at MS, there were kids from Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Penn and she was one of 3 from Cornell, didn’t see anyone from NYU. It was the case at most of other firms she interviewed at. I don’t think she ever felt like she was in competition with NYU students.</p>

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<p>I never had a bill ruined by the $6 pitchers at Helen Newman.</p>

<p>I got into stern and it was the first one out of my list.</p>