<p>hey guys,
i just recieved an offer from NYU stern and i'm really excited. but i'm a bit upset that i wasnt ofered admission into their scholar's progran. is it a big deal or is it just overrated?
and also, i have heard that the stern curve+classmates combo is really tough and all...if u have had any experiences or know something abt this, can u plz share?
i wld really appreciate if anyone can tell me if i shld attend NYU over Umich and Carnegie mellon?
thnx</p>
<p>wow. those accepted to the scholars program have HYP stats, so I wouldn't count on receiving one of those offers unless you're sure that you have 2300+ SAT scores, 3.9+ unweighted GPA, and captain of this and that team. many who are not in the scholars program at stern have amazing stats nevertheless, definitely higher than the rest of the NYU population. I believe NYU Stern is a bit more selective than Carnegie Mellon, and I'm not too interested in the state school even though Michigan can provide you with a business education. I'd pick NYU.</p>
<p>thnx alot man. i think i'm finally getting settled arnd the prospect of going to NYU. i mean, alot of ppl are like spazzing abt the "campus experience" and stuff...but it seems amazing cuz its in NYC. i'm prolly gonna major in finance so the job prospects and stuff wld be huge, rite? i have even read somewhere that the internship/job opportunities at NYU parallel if not even beat out the ones available at Wharton.</p>
<p>it would probably be more convenient and yes, easier getting an internship in nyc during the school year but wharton definitely supplies a great share. i believe finance was ranked #2 at nyu by u.s. news, so great choice.</p>
<p>NYU is damn good, but Wharton is Wharton</p>
<p>You should probably work on your spelling and grammar skills if you want to be considered for programs like Stern Scholars lol.</p>
<p>And while Stern (meaning NYU) has great job opportunities, Wharton trumps any undergraduate b-school's job opps. Many see an undergrad degree from Wharton as the equivalent to an MBA. Saying that Stern has better or even equivalent job opportunities is a gross misrepresentation of the truth.</p>
<p>If you want to go into finance, I would say Stern is your best option (compared to UMich) but if you want to consider another field in business, you should take a much closer look at UMich. The majority of companies recruiting at NYU are here for finance jobs (not consulting etc.).</p>
<p>thanks alot for the input guys. really appreciate it. the thing is, wharton undergrads rarely go for an MBA (only 27% do) after becuz an undergrad from wharton gets MBA like respect. but there's only so far an undergrad can go...in the end, they cant compare to an MBA. so for me, i would say that if i get an undergrad frm wharton, i wld probably not go for an MBA and get stuck at an under 100k job. while if i goto stern, it wld motivate me to get an MBA. but thats just my outlook on it. any other perspectives?
ps: gonsenheim...its just a forum...its not like i'm writing a formal letter ;) lol</p>
<p>Stern Finance is almost equal to Wharton's finance program.</p>
<p>the dean of stern (sally blount-lyon i think her name was) mentioed how rigorous the stern undergrad curriculum is when i was st nyu for 2 open houses. shes even mentioned that once you graduate from stern, you will have the knowledge that a graduate student would have learned in your respective major, and that basically an MBA isn't needed. she especially said that nyu doesn't prefer to have their undergrads coming back for grad school pursuing the same thing and that a JD or something would be better if yourre considering grad school.</p>
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thanks alot for the input guys. really appreciate it. the thing is, wharton undergrads rarely go for an MBA (only 27% do) after becuz an undergrad from wharton gets MBA like respect. but there's only so far an undergrad can go...in the end, they cant compare to an MBA. so for me, i would say that if i get an undergrad frm wharton, i wld probably not go for an MBA and get stuck at an under 100k job. while if i goto stern, it wld motivate me to get an MBA. but thats just my outlook on it. any other perspectives?
ps: gonsenheim...its just a forum...its not like i'm writing a formal letter lol
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It's not like you don't have the option to get an MBA from Wharton, its just that most students find that they don't even need it to get the desired job they want compared to other schools.</p>
<p>canadian - I got into Stern, UMich, and Tepper at CMU too.. and I'm in a more difficult situation because I want to do management/entrepreneurship. At least you're into finance, which is strong at Stern. I know I'm definitely going to Stern, but it just sucks that my major isn't as valuable there. I'm still hoping that I can get a lot of job offers though.</p>
<p>"but there's only so far an undergrad can go...in the end, they cant compare to an MBA. so for me, i would say that if i get an undergrad frm wharton, i wld probably not go for an MBA and get stuck at an under 100k job."</p>
<p>The MBA helps you make the jump to associate positions or equivalent in most investment banking or management consulting firms. A lot of the former Wharton undergraduates I have met in those fields have progressed far beyond that point in their career, without the MBA.</p>
<p>venus, out of curiosity, why don't you go to UMich if you are a management/entrepreneurship major? The only reason I can think of would be financial but its difficult to believe that any school in the US would be more expensive than NYU (not to mention cost of living in the city).</p>
<p>stern is full of arrogrant, cutthroat a@@holes. 90 percent of CURRENT NYU students would probably agree. if you do go to stern, dont trust any sternies. Instead make friends with premeds or osmething.</p>
<p>^^lol. I can attest to that.</p>
<p>tis true. too bad you didn't apply to cornell.</p>
<p>i'm actually undecided what i wanna do after undergrad. either i wld directly go onto law school (follow my parents' footsteps ;)) or would maybe work for a company for 2-3 years and then go onto get an MBA. venus, its really nice to know someone else is in the same situation lol.
harvardman and gosenheim...have u guys had some personal bad experiences? u guys are at NYU too?
hey, isnt cornell rated like #10 in the country...its ranked way below stern, umich and cmu though</p>
<p>I don't think <em>we</em> have the power to tell you where you should attend to college. The decision's ultimately yours. Hopefully, you've done your research into each school, and know what's the best fit. Stern's a great school--but do you have the $$ to fit the bill? Do you know the pros and cons of each school?</p>
<p>Yes I'm at nyu. And that is pretty much the sentiment on campus--everyone hates the sternies--even sternies themselves don't like each other. </p>
<p>I don't know about rankings, but cornell is ivy league. enough said.</p>
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No it is not</p>
<p>Also Canadian just because you get an UG degree from Wharton does not make you any less competitve as an MBA in the long run. If that were the case then alot more than 30% of Wharton UG's would get an MBA at some point in their careers. Look at it this way..In the two years that you work straight out of college..as an IB analyst or whatever it is you do, everyone is pretty much on the same playing field. After this two year stint most people go on to get their MBA's or move onto something else (PE,VC etc)..while others stay on for a 3rd year or move onto an Associate position within the bank/firm. While those people go on to get their MBA a Wharton grad already has the skills necessary to progress in their careers without having to essentially go back to school to learn the same things they learned as an UG. Also, once you move onto an associate position and the like nobody cares if you got an MBA or not since you have already made it that far..Wall St is a very "what have you done for me lately" environment, and for good reason.</p>
<p>In terms of Stern, it is an excellent institution and will land you great oppourtunities provided you do well. You will make > 100k (heck some first year analysts at IB's pulled in more than that...but then again I cant fathom wanting to be a glorified Real Estate Agent).
You will be fine..focus on one step at a time..do well, get a great job and if necessary (you will know if its necessary or not once you are on the job depending on your career trek) get an MBA. :)</p>
<p>Best of Luck</p>