<p>thanks for the advice dad</p>
<p>duke? is that the school where the students are hated by everyone that people had to fabricate a "lacrosse gang raping incident" just to bring down their image? i mean, the prosecutors hate them, the media hates them, even prostitutes hate them. i mean, come on, they didnt even get an apology after getting played... and dont get me started on the tar heels. way to go dukie.</p>
<p>wow,,it seemed that going to stern is not a good choice at all,,do ppl really hate each other?</p>
<p>that idiotic question does not merit a response.</p>
<p>Why not? I'll respond. If you want a college expierence don't pick stern. If you want to study everyday, be at the end of the curve (if your smart, but not THAT smart), live in an ultracompetitve enviornment, then yes, pick stern as you school. It'll probably land you a good job. But then again, so will all the other top business schools.</p>
<p>I disagree with your biased opinion yet again, sweetlax. But such will be the case when one person hates Stern and the other loves it.</p>
<p>NYU still gives you a college experience. You're living on your own, meeting new people, learning interesting things, connecting with NYC - that's all part of a college experience. NYU is just not the typical kind, due to its lack of campus. But if you're into culture, the arts, and cities, then you don't really need frat parties or keggers to be happy. You should be independent enough not to worry about the competitive factor or have to cling onto a campus, when the city is sprawling right before you.
I get really annoyed when everyone naively believes in these "cut-throat business" stereotypes. Sure, it's competitive, but it's not that extreme. And you're not stuck with only socializing with Sternies (because some of them really are not that fun - I visited last weekend and ended up partying with CAS people). And I know many Sternies who don't study everyday at all. You pick the classes you want, the quantity and level of difficulty, so it's all up to you.</p>
<p>Thats what I mean venus, a typical college expierence. And of course there will be those who hate it and those who love it. You love it so you picked it, I dislike it (I don't hate, thats pretty strong) so I didnt choose to go there.</p>
<p>i just dont think stern gives u enough options. mckinsey, booz allen and bain do not recruit there. many kids go there cuz they think they wanna do ibanking or hedge funds, when they dont even know the very basics, as in ibanking is "selling" and hedge funds are "buying".</p>
<p>^ what Harvardman said is really true. Most kids go to Stern are just say Ibanking and Hedgefunds when they really don't know what it is. Im not saying you should have a great understanding of it, just dont bs...</p>
<p>SweetLax, generalizing much? if "most" of the kids at stern just say that and don't know what it is, why do so many get jobs in those industries? Yes of course, many incoming freshman may not have a good understanding what the business is about, but thats why you go to college. Show me a kid straight out of high school who knows everything about the business and can talk about it intelligently--those are few and far between. You go to school for an education (where you learn about things like what ibanks and hedgefunds do). </p>
<p>NYU is not the typical college, but it is popular for a reason. Some people like that, some don't. Being in NY has huge advantages because its in the city, and in fact, many people choose NYU because its in the city, not inspite of it. </p>
<p>The people who make generalizations about the entire student body at places like stern are usually the ones who didn't get in there. You will find ****ty people at any good school, Stern is no exception (just like any ivy is no exception, as well as programs like Haas and Ross). You will also find people you don't get along with once you graduate and get a job--learning to deal with that is part of life. Don't go to a competitive school if you want to take a vacation for 4 years, go to a competitive school if you wan't to be prepared for what your career has in store for you. </p>
<p>Stern is an excellent program that has a lot to offer, its a personal decision whether you want to go to school in a metropolitan area or in a traditional college atmosphere. Choose the one that you feel will better suit your lifestyle, but more importantly, if you want advice about what the atmoshere is like, listen to people who go there, not the ones who got rejected and are bitter.</p>
<p>I actually got in thank you very much, way to make generalizations hypocrite.</p>
<p>Your reasoning is crap, can you not read what I wrote? I said most kids who go to Stern as well as any other undergrad b school don't know what those two areas are, obviously they're going there to learn.</p>
<p>But BSD24's point wasn't on your ability to get into Stern or not. Nor is being hypocritical. I think his points are all valid and truthful, and he was referring to your previous comment, not the one on hedgefunds/i-banking.
I just think your opinions on Stern are really misconstrued by your personal, generalized judgements. And when people like BSD24 or me offer our own points of view, you get defensive and lose your temper. No need to get upset over a school that you don't care about.</p>
<p>so.. when the kids don't know anything, wouldnt it make it more sense for them to go to a place where the atmosphere is more diverse and they can pick consulting as a career option? 90 percent of the kids go to Stern STRICTLY to get a job on Wall St.</p>
<p>Actually Venus, he is a hypocrite.</p>
<p>He accuses me:
"SweetLax, generalizing much?"
"The people who make generalizations about the entire student body at places like stern are usually the ones who didn't get in there."</p>
<p>So the second statement isnt a generalization? Pray tell, what is it then?</p>
<p>I said:
"Thats what I mean venus, a typical college expierence. And of course there will be those who hate it and those who love it. You love it so you picked it, I dislike it (I don't hate, thats pretty strong) so I didnt choose to go there."</p>
<p>I really don't know whats so controversial about that. There is nothing controversial at all, I don't see why you choose to make this into an argument and jump on my back everytime I say I dislike Stern.</p>
<p>I agree with your comment. I don't understand your point though. New York City is as diverse as it gets. And true, most Sternies want to go into i-banking (not me though) and then onto Wall St, I really don't see anything wrong with that. Why so much hate for finance majors? That doesn't necessarily indicate a lack of character or a stereotypical cut-throat personality</p>
<p>oh and to Sweetlax: I'm not jumping on your back for disliking Stern, I'm just tired of you making negative comments that even objective viewers might not necessarily agree with.</p>
<p>I agree that NYC is diverse as it gets. And I also agree that most sternies want Ibanking and then Wall Street. I never said there was something wrong with that. Obviously there cant be something wrong or else why would people choose that road? I have no hate for finance majors, I may want to pursue finance myself.</p>
<p>Here are the reasons I turned down Stern. This is completely on a personal bias and may not reflect the nature of the school. I don't hate the place obviously because I applied there.</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Way too many Asian/Indians. Im sorry but Im just not comfortable in that atmosphere (which is strange coming from an Asian since they tend to come together). I dont know, coming from a prep school, I did have Asian friends and I met ALOT of Asian people over the summer doing programs, etc. However, I found most of the Asians I met I disliked...somehow. The ones I disliked seemed too uptight, didn't know how to relax, school was everything, and they really didnt follow my kind of mindset "Work Hard Play Hard". Anyway, this may seem like a stupid reason not to go but personally it was one of mine.</p></li>
<li><p>I realize that not everyone is cutthroat or is a study machine, however, I know there is a distinct lack of community that I want in a school. Again, I loved my prep school and there was a thriving community, everyone wanted to help each other. This is not to say no one competed, but to say that if someone was stuck on a problem, no one would hesitate to help them out whatever the conditions. I don't really believe the crazy cutthroat stories I hear about Stern, but you have to wonder, it did come from somewhere right? No one was just so bored one day they picked a business school to sterotype is. Behind every sterotype is some sort of truth.</p></li>
<li><p>No campus. I know I know NYC is your campus, but I want the traditional college atmosphere like places such as Dartmouth, Notre Dame, Northwestern, etc.</p></li>
<li><p>Someone I can't stand is going there and I really don't want to go to college with him/her.</p></li>
</ol>
<p>The OP was asking about the experience at Stern, and you don't go there, so why do you post so much on this thread?</p>
<p>The opinions you offered in your last post are infinitely more valuable to someone making a decision on Stern than your previous comments about how people are cut throat, how sternies are all wharton rejects, how most of the kids there who say they want to go into ibanking/hedge funds don't know what it means--these are all bogus generalizations that just make you sound bitter. They are misleading to kids who want to know about what Stern is like--and hearing from someone who is bitter about the school (whether its because you didn't get in or because your ex boyfriend goes there and he cheated on you or something) does nothing to help them make a very important decision.</p>
<p>So maybe you don't hate Stern, but you obviously have a strong dislike for it. To be fair, I don't think anyone here cares that you don't like someone there or that you don't want to go to school with a lot of Asians. Your other points however, are entirely valid and I'm sure there are others who turned down stern for those very reasons. maybe in the future you should stick to comments like #s 2 and 3.</p>
<p>Can you not read? I said I got in and these are the reasons I choose not to go. I know someone whose not going because of the lack of diversity. Its not I never visited. Some of the comments in the past were said in the heat of the moment.</p>
<p>Hi Venus,
I am considering Stern School of Business for my business education. But i have few concerns and questions. I would really appreciate if you could give me your personal E-Mail id (if that is not a problem) where i can ask you directly and avert all these misleading perspectives.</p>
<p>Thanks and waiting in anticipation. </p>
<p>Regards,</p>