Hmm, my kid, a fairly recent NYU grad, did have not an NYU medical plan. Just like with my other kid, we just had to prove to the university that our kid had other health insurance (our family policy).
My state U has a boat load of extra fees (and the differential pricing on dorms really bothers me. The rich kids get air conditioning and the poor kids get to bring their own window fans?)
My child never had an NYU medical plan.
FWIW- My child was not in the liberal Studies Program although a few of her close friends were. None of her friends had any issue being accepted into College of Arts and Sciences and they graduated on time.
Like the NYU medical plan, the “rant” is misleading in several other areas…this one jumped out at me:
To boaster the argument that NYU is “unfairly” charging International students more than domestic students, it tries to imply that it’s a common practice with “flagships public universities”. Then it uses University of Washington’s “international” rate as a “shocking” example of this evil practice. However, this example has nothing to do with international students, but simply shows the common In-state vs Out of state tuition rate differential in play at most state public universities. In fact, the total COA for an international student (minus the required health insurance at $1,135) at UW is about the same as an out of state student.
I’m curious where this information is coming from. I know several Canadian kids at NYU and none is being charged different tuition than the American kids. There have always been small fees associated with obtaining student visas for international students but this is the case at all U.S. colleges.
sorry, besides a few anecdotes, I could not find the list of fees and expenditures. Please do tell? (or, with post #1, go back to your faculty workshop.)
I would come to the opposite conclusion. All of that building makes for better facilities for 6+ years…
“To boaster the argument that NYU is “unfairly” charging International students more than domestic students, it tries to imply that it’s a common practice with “flagships public universities”. Then it uses University of Washington’s “international” rate as a “shocking” example of this evil practice. However, this example has nothing to do with international students, but simply shows the common In-state vs Out of state tuition rate differential in play at most state public universities. In fact, the total COA for an international student (minus the required health insurance at $1,135) at UW is about the same as an out of state student.”
What difference does that make? NYU isn’t even a public university which always has a different cost for instate versus out of state (or international) students. Is there another private university which charges more for international students to attend?
“I’m curious where this information is coming from. I know several Canadian kids at NYU and none is being charged different tuition than the American kids. There have always been small fees associated with obtaining student visas for international students but this is the case at all U.S. colleges.”
It was in the paper published.
I have no reason to not believe the facts as set forth in the paper and I’m looking forward to the reply from NYU to the charges brought up in the paper.
^^why would NYU respond? Or more importantly, what is there to respond to? (The unsupported anecdote that students are “sleeping on benches”? yeah, sure.)
Faculty at all Universities make all kinds of claims; they like to think that they should be running the show. Kinda SOP.
fwiw: At 14%, NYU has the same relative number of internationals as does Columbia…where is their faculty outrage?
I’d like to know where this ‘paper’ was published, other than on Susan Webber’s blog.
Interesting that they demand an answer from the NYU Board yet this ‘paper’ isn’t signed. Many of the claims in it are absolutely ridiculous, and none appear to be cited by any reliable source.
A look at the bursar’s page on the NYU website shows no differentiation between what Americans and what internationals pay in tuition.
Why outrage isn’t over the # of international students - it is what NYU is charging them. Columbus doesn’t charge international students more, afaik.
If you read the paper they say that the extra fees charged are not found on the bursar’s page and that all the extra fees charged are buried in hard to find places on the website. But hey, you are all free to not believe what was written. We know for a fact the outrageous amount of money NYU has spent on housing the President. It’s been well documented by the NYT a few years ago and there seems to be a lot more of that kind of stuff - yet FA to students sucks. Sorry, this university has their priorities ass backward. I have no reason to believe the faculty made these charges out of thin air. If they aren’t true and I was President of NYU I certainly would want to set the facts straight if the university has been misrepresented.
I’m having a hard time understanding why ALL universities don’t charge int’ls more. American citizens & PR’s pay taxes which support all kinds of subsidies & direct payments to both private & public institutions.
@emilybee, and you’re free to believe an unsigned blog post with multiple inaccuracies. As I said, I know several international students and they are not paying more than their U.S. counterparts.
I have no idea about some of the claims in this ‘paper’ but there are several that I know are not true so that makes me skeptical from the get go. This thing reminds me of reports by shareholder activists who make all kinds of undocumented and unproven claims, in addition to not identifying themselves. Equally skeptical of those.
It’s not unsigned. The professors are all members of NYU Faulty Agsinst the Sexton Plan. http://nyufasp.com/
There is even a link to the report on the NYU Steinhardt home page from a profesor in that school. http://steinhardt.nyu.edu/blogs/faculty
I believe the professors since what they are reporting isn’t about them but about their students and how the uni is gouging them.
I could not find them in the (ahem) “paper”; can you share some examples of extra fees that international students have to pay that domestic students do not?
Now here’s a surprise: NYU is prohibitively expensive. Lucky for us there are thousands of other choices.
emily, I clicked on one of the links that you provided, and the faculty member is a fool if he believes his own fact-checklng. To wit:
Uhh, no. Tuition is $47k. Total COA is $71k
Uhh, medical is not a “phantom” fee. In the first place, it is clearly stated on NYU’s website (link below). Secondly, the cost is a fact of life from the ACA, which I would guess that 99% of NYU’s faculty supported. Health insurance for internationals is a condition of obtaining a student visa…
And I’m still not seeing 400 faculty names, or any names, for that matter. The ‘news’ on that website looks to be three years old.
Does it not trouble you that so much of what they’re claiming is just not factual? I guess I don’t understand why someone would automatically believe those claims without verifying the information. It doesn’t make sense to me.
The issue of students and families taking on excessive debt for undergraduate education is obviously a serious one that deserves attention. My problem with the FASP paper is that it really has no interest in addressing that serious issue. Rather, it’s just another extreme polemic from a group with a major axe to grind that plays fast and loose with the facts. And they’ve been grinding the same axe for the last several years. Whether NYU chooses to respond to this particular iteration of their polemic is anyone’s guess, but here are links to a couple of responses that NYU has issued to the group’s prior iterations of the same allegations:
http://publicaffairsblog.nyu.edu/2013/09/in-response-the-fasp-letter-of-sept-19-2013.html
Ironically my oldest D attended NYU because it was significantly less money than if she attended Barnard (her other top choice.)
We took off the list all of the ivies and some favorites like Vassar, Tufts and Wesleyan, too. And places like Williams, too. All because of cost.
So to me, it’s up to individuals and their families to make financial decisions based on the reality of their financial situation. Research is key.
It turns out that we were not going to qualify for financial aid from any institution with our two income family. But the financial reality of living in the NY metro area meant we were not feeling particularly wealthy and wanted to bring the cost down. We only considered schools that would offer merit aid without need. So our list included privates like NYU, GW, American and Brandeis–expensive privates that for us came through with merit aid ranging from $11K to $22K per year.
It’s important to know exactly where you stand when applying. Schools that met full need were our most expensive option.