<p>Hey everyone! The Early Decision deadline is coming up soon, but I’m still hesitating between applying to NYU or Barnard.
I got a 1960 on my SAT (690 W, 670 CR, 600 M) but I am retaking it in November for at least a 2000. Here are the reasons why I’m hesitant:</p>
<p>-Barnard has a higher ED admissions rate than NYU, but someone else from my graduating class is applying to Barnard. They have a higher GPA but a lower SAT. What are my chances? Can we both get accepted?</p>
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<li>I feel like both universities are a good fit for me, so there isn’t one in particular that I would absolutely like to attend instead of the other.</li>
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<p>I completed the supplements for both universities, and finished my essay as well; all I need to do is to figure out where I’m going to send them. </p>
<p>Please feel free to give me any advice/suggestions! Thank you all.</p>
<p>They are two very different schools in atmosphere if not academics. Barnard is a all female but thoroughly integrated with Columbia. Barnard is Upper West Side and has a really nice urban campus, NYU is in the village (rapidly becoming the village exclusively!), spread out with no campus. Barnard has campus dorms/housing, NYU again, has you spread all over. Barnard/Columbia is an Ivy League, NYU is a highly respected private university. Neither is better or worse, but these are just a very few differences. </p>
<p>Are you playing the ED odds or looking for the best school for you? As far as your concern about the other girl from your school applying ED, it is unwarranted, you can both be accepted if you are each qualified. Stop trying to figure out the system and apply to the one that would make you most happy.</p>
<p>If you are not sure of which school you want to attend, **don’t/b] apply ED. </p>
<p>Apply RD.</p>
<p>If you need financial aid, Barnard meets 100% of need. NYU does not, and will provide adequate need-based aid to only a very small proportion of admitted students. </p>
<p>^I agree with @calmom. Early Decision was designed for students who had an absolute first choice and wanted to apply somewhere and know by the new year where they were going to go to school. If you don’t have an absolute first choice, then just apply regular decision. There are many reasons why the ED admissions rate is higher than the RD one, and it’s not demonstrable that a given applicant will have better chances during the ED round than the RD one.</p>
<p>But with that said, if you absolutely want to apply to ED somewhere regardless, then Barnard is likely to give you better financial aid than NYU.</p>
<p>I went for Barnard. The fact that it is affiliated to Columbia is really appealing to me, and I saw it as a challenge that I wanted to take on. Also, I have family members at Barnard, so that helped me decide, a bit. So yeah… nothing very special to distinguish between both Good luck to everyone !</p>
<p>Sorry, Barnard is not in the Ivy League. Columbia College is. Barnard is affiliated with Columbia University but is one of the Seven Sisters. Similarly, only Cornell’s College of Arts & Sciences is in the Ivy League. </p>
<p>That would be important to any prospective student athletes, because that means that Barnard women play on Division 1 teams, which have differences in terms of recruitment and specific standards than the Division 3 team rules that govern most LAC’s. </p>
<p>“Similarly, only Cornell’s College of Arts & Sciences is in the Ivy League”</p>
<p>I’m sorry but that is incorrect.
Cornell <em>University</em> is a member of the ivy league.
Its component colleges are all ubiquitously considered genuine, component parts of the university proper; e.g., no “merely afiliate” argument has ever been even alleged against any of them. So there is no room in Cornell’s case for the type of ambiguity that may exist elsewhere, in some circles. None of Cornell University’s component colleges have their own separate, exclusive, individual membership to the Ivy League. It is the university as a whole that is a member.</p>
<p>About 2/3 of the university’s students, including most of its athletes who compete in the Ivy league, do not attend the College of Arts & Sciences. </p>
<p>Columbia University comprises Columbia College and Barnard College as well as several other undergraduate and graduate schools. Barnard is a division of Columbia University. Don’t look to the Spec for anything unbiased about Barnard as that’s a Columbia College publication written by Columbia College students, many of whom are notoriously aggressive on the topic of Barnard. They like to believe that the women who choose Barnard would have preferred Columbia. I can assure you that this is most definitely not the case. Barnard ain’t nobody’s sister, sister.</p>
<p>Actually, The Spectator is staffed by students from Barnard as well as Columbia, and Barnard is a semi-independent but subordinate affiliate of Columbia, not a “division”. However, by the terms of the affiliation agreement, Barnard students are awarded Columbia University diplomas… and, as noted, their athletes play on the same teams as CC students. </p>
<p>BTW… you should attend Barnard on its own merits… it is a fabulous school. For someone to say it is not Ivy league this is the same old and sad strangeness that people tend to exhibit against the school for no apparent reason. It is well integrated with Columbia and for some degrees, such as architecture, Barnard is the only place where you can obtain it inside the larger university. BTW… your degree will read and be signed by Columbia University trustees. </p>
Good luck to everyone !</p>