<p>fun2beme, would your D get a single in other colleges? That would probably put NYU’s COA into the $75,000 range! But I’m pretty sure most colleges require students to live in dorms the first year. Also, your own bathroom is a luxury at college. Or is it after the first year that your D is worried about? </p>
<p>Connections - she would like a roommate but she would also like a bathroom attached to her bedroom and not a communal one all the way down the hall. And yes, she could get a single at other colleges with a private bathroom for a lot less than at NYU. I guess I am more concerned about sharing the room and bath than she is. But having to run down the hall to a shared toilet and shower is a bit much.</p>
<p>I had to run down the hall to a shared toilet and shower when I was in college. It was fine.
My son, who is a college sophomore, has a bathroom he shares with the room next door, so 4 boys, and it is actually disgusting. None of them will clean it. At least in the shared hall bath a custodian cleans it twice a week!
And when I moved into an apartment with girls none of them would clean either. </p>
<p>I can’t believe I’m going to use my 999th post to write this. (I’m trying not to go over 1000 posts so that I never become a “senior member” in this forum. Forever young I say.) So this may be my last word and it’s about bathrooms so how fitting is that since a lot of my advice is full of sh_! anyway.</p>
<p>I am PRAYING TO GOD that my son ends up in a dorm room with a common bathroom down the hallway that he has to walk to and that somebody else cleans daily! Please please please…That would make my heart soar. I think common bathrooms are socially fantastic. It forces kids to get out of their rooms and meet the people on their floor. Semi private shared bathrooms can wait until after they’ve made friends. If my son ends up with one of those semi private ones I fear it will be disgusting unless he is lucky enough to get Felix Unger as his roommate. 999!!!</p>
<p>NYU dorms are old hotel and apartment buildings. So even if she shared a room with other girls they would still have their own bathroom. No need for a single. There is no communal bathroom down the hall in any of the dorms I’ve seen.
Some of the dorms have “apartment style” rooms that have a little kitchen too. You can ask for the style you prefer.<br>
I know NYU is out for your family, fun2beme, but I’m putting that info out there for future readers. </p>
<p>NYU is the most expensive school in the country, that is true. But I’m pretty sure, being that I pay the bill, there is a lot of exaggeration going on here on cc. I just looked up costs for Tisch for next school year for incoming freshman plus some of the other big privates we all talk about. Tisch is $68k. USC is $63K, BU and CMU are $64k and Northwestern is $66K. That is right off all the websites, full ride, no merit aid or need based aid. The drama programs may cost even more, I didn’t add that. (Tisch is the most expensive school at NYU.)</p>
<p>Halflokum is absolutely correct, the shared bathrooms stay much cleaner. My kids never had to share a room at home and both have adapted to the dorm lifestyle. It is part of the college experience. My daughter is now a Junior, lives off campus and still shares a bathroom. They really do survive quite well.</p>
<p>"But having to run down the hall to a shared toilet and shower is a bit much. "</p>
<p>???Because college kids haven’t been doing that for more than 100 years? I guess I preferred sharing with 18 girls, having it cleaned daily by housekeeping than sharing with my 4 brothers and a sister and having to clean it myself.</p>
<p>My daughter has two choices - 1) a traditional dorm with a shared bathroom, cleaning provided, or 2) a suite style appt with 4, each having their own room but sharing a split bath with two toilets, two sinks, and 2 showers that they have to clean (plus a kitchenette they have to clean, halls they have to clean, and a living room). I’m pushing for the traditional dorm/shared bath because 1) it’s cheaper and 2) I like it when someone else cleans the bathroom.</p>
<p>I also have a daughter already in college. She was not required to stay in a dorm at all. She is sharing a 4 bedroom apartment where each girl has her own private bathroom and there is a full kitchen, living room and study area. My girls are used to having their own bathroom and they clean their own. That’s how they know its clean! “Having it cleaned daily by housekeeping”, really? Young adults should really learn how to clean up behind themselves…Don’t you think?</p>
<p>By the way, I have two sons who are in elementary school. Boys can be taught to clean bathrooms too. It’s not a matter of not being able to afford NYU. It just isn’t logical. NYU could be free and I still would not want my child to go to Tisch. Too many drama students…350! They choose your studio for you and from what I understand, kids can pay that ridiculous tuition and still not be “invited” to participate in the senior showcase. The other big names are much more exclusive taking as few as 12 for some programs. She has gotten into other excellent programs that take fewer students and weed kids out before that final hour after they’ve spent $300K.</p>
<p>What senior showcase? NYU does not have a senior showcase. There’s no weeding out at all. I think you are confusing schools. </p>
<p>This is a direct quote from Broadway Spotted: “Both the Steinhardt and Tisch schools offer numerous performances opportunities; culminating in a showcase following a student’s senior year. The two schools offer very different programs that will benefit people based on their specific skills and needs as performers.”
The weeding out occurs at other schools. NYU takes the money up until the final curtain. Every reputable school has a senior showcase to introduce students to agents.</p>
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<p>Young adults should really learn how to clean up behind themselves…Don’t you think? </p>
<p>My son has maid service in his on campus apartment. I do think it’s ridiculous but I’m guessing the leasing company realizes that a lot of destruction could happen in a year. Some of these places look like vacation condos. </p>
<p>Flossy - If I owned the building I would want a cleaning company there too. :)</p>
<p>Mommy 5 - I got this information from several sources. Check out a previous CC post in 2009.</p>
<p>We had a tour of NYU and info session at Tisch today. Loved the info session format----seven people in a conference room with a senior admissions person, very nice lady whose name I cannot remember. (Five schools in four days = Too Many!)</p>
<p>Son asked if they have a senior showcase (assuming they did, just wanted to hear about it) and the admissions officer tells us that the SS does not include ALL the seniors, only SOME of them, and that the students have to audition to even be IN their senior showcase!</p>
<p>Is this their answer to their no-cut policy? She said the reason they don’t have all the students participate is that the industry professionals wouldn’t sit still for all those people—that they’d just leave.</p>
<p>We were very surprised at the way this was presented—as though the school couldn’t possibly have TWO senior showcases, or even three, spaced out several months from each other? Or that the school—after taking $200K from each student over a four-year-period doesn’t OWE it to the students to give them a senior showcase?</p>
<p>I don’t even know what to think about that. They tell the benefits of going to a bigger program, but this seems to us (and I don’t know who it bothered more, me or DS) to be a significant downside to Tisch’s large size. And they make it clear there is no cut system, but isn’t making kids audition for their own showcase the cruelest cut of all?</p>
<p>Curious to hear what other people think about this. Remember, we’d just come from the Juilliard tour where they only accept 18 students, but where there is NO competition for roles, they are all assigned according to what the faculty thinks the student needs to learn or experience, and where they have a showcase for drama seniors both in New York AND in Los Angeles. After hearing that, Tisch’s practice seemed …well, unenlightened seems the kindest way to describe it.
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<p>Syracuse is the same way re: showcase. They explained that the agents go to all the showcases but are willing to sit for just about an hour max before they walk out. </p>
<p>bromquest- thanks for the validation.</p>
<p>It seems to me - from looking at the size of different senior showcase classes online - that some of the other schools don’t showcase the entire class either. Anyone know? (Then again, the showcase is essentially just one audition. One of many, many, many auditions these kids will go on.) </p>
<p>Bromquest validated that Syracuse has a showcase that works that way. Not NYU. ??</p>
<p>Fun2beme, I tried to help you, I recommended Depaul as a back up to NYU which was the school you said your daughter had her heart set on. Then you basically attacked my child’s school and then told me there is a showcase, when I know there is not. Should I continue?
There is no showcase at NYU and there is no cut system. Maybe in 2009 there was, but there hasn’t been since my daughter applied there. NYC Industry is invited to many of the studio productions and the mainstage productions and several studios have castings agents and talent agents come in to meet kids and see their work. But no, there is no “showcase”. </p>
<p>Picking where your child goes to college for 4 years because of an hour long showcase is not the best idea. There are kids that come out of schools with “12 kids” in the class and do not get agents from the showcase. I know some of these kids personally. And there are several very prestigious programs that do have showcases that are by audition and selection only. But NYU is not one of them.</p>
<p>And one other thing I think you should be aware of. Just because a program has 12 kids does not mean it is more selective. It depends who those 12 kids are and the applicant pool they were chosen from. </p>
<p>I really wanted to go out over the discussion of bathrooms. Rats. Back in because of the suggestion that I wouldn’t know how to teach a young adult son to clean up after himself (come on @Flossy really?) plus the whole showcase thing. Sometimes humor is disguised in truth for the sake of making a point. Can’t we just get the joke?</p>
<p>I’m still a fan of common bathrooms. I think they are socially empowering. Laugh not laugh. Be horrified or not. Still a fan and still hope my boy (who does know how to clean) will walk down the hall with his shampoo in a bucket. Y’all need to listen to that because actually there is something real in that advice though it seems silly.</p>
<p>OK… senior me.</p>
<p>There are no showcases at Tisch. I fully expect that Tisch did a sucky job communicating that to you @fun2beme because overall, Tisch kind of sucks at communications. All of us Tisch parents have far more material to slay the school for than any prospects could and I think the current crop of posters (the handful of us) are pretty honest about the good, bad and ugly. So know that meanwhile, agents are invited and do attend the various productions at Tisch. It’s easy. It’s down the block. Hate that love it. Up to you.</p>
<p>Tisch is a big program. That doesn’t make it a bad program. If you want small, your math may work for you in a negative sense but the math of BIGGER and NYC works really favorably for other students - like my daughter, and @Mommy5 's daughter and many others who came before and will come after. These kids didn’t want small nor remote from Broadway. Or didn’t want whatever wonderful alternative for reasons that were personal to them. No answer is righter or wronger - it’s personal. None should be ridiculed. I’m good on my end with a record of now 1000 posts of not having ridiculed the quest for smaller, or somewhere else that was equally wonderful (Chicago yay) or more personal (TSU yay) etc. as if it was wrong. Gosh there are so many programs out there that I have friends in (that I made here in CC) whose kids are doing wonderful things that I’m jealous of. Yay across the board. You know who you are. Feel free to search through my now 1000 posts. </p>
<p>So posters, please be careful. We NYU parents love our big expensive school that we think has a lot of advantages and we are trying hard to keep our kids in it too. Hopefully you all will also find a way to love that big expensive NYC and know what we mean whenever your kids get here. It’s a bear. You are going to need find a way to love it too if Broadway is your ambition. We just happened to get there first because that is where the school is. Doesn’t make us better. Doesn’t make us less worthy. Probably just makes us broker. Not a reason to hate. </p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Wholelokum</p>
<p>What? You are misreading my bathroom post. LOL.</p>
<p>Oh, I forgot the quote box. That was not me saying I think kids should learn to clean up after themselves. I’m messy and so are my kids, sadly. On second thought the maid is probably a good idea.</p>
<p>Now, back to the annual bickering about NYU…</p>