<p>Hmm. I hope you didn’t meant it that way, but I don’t see the connection between being a college student who is willing to share a bathroom and being a college student who drinks and does drugs. That is certainly not my D, who is also a stellar student, was invited to honors programs, attends one of the best high schools in our state and has studied in acting conservatories.
This has gotten off topic and a new thread is probably a good idea.</p>
<p>NYU threads always bring the sharp knives out. </p>
<p>Dramamom0804
I have been paying close attention to this thread as my friend was waitlisted at UNCSA and it seems to me that fun2beme was addressing you when she explained that her D loved the program. It looks like she was addressing MOMMY5 when she mentioned her D’s academic history and the typical “college experience” because MOMMY5 said that her daughter chose NYU for academics and the college experience. ( " Plus she’s a bright kid and it was important to us that she continue with her academics and get a complete education."-- MOMMY5) There are many bright kids who go to so called “small arts schools.” So,anyways, I wouldn’t take offense if I were you. The comment was probably directed at another user! </p>
<p>dramamom0804 - sorry. Didn’t mean to imply that about your daughter. Just venting regarding posts from mommy5 who believes you can’t get a true college experience, whatever that is, at a smaller arts school. I have a daughter at LSU the party capital of the world! My drama student would never want to go to school there even if she were not a drama student. I hope people won’t start tearing into me about LSU. I love it! It’s just different from what my drama student needs and wants. I believe there is more than one way to experience college. Your daughter sounds alot like mine. I wish her the best!</p>
<p>@mommy5 “Successful actors, directors, musicians chose to send their kids to Tisch. They can get in anywhere they chose. Last year Denzel Washington’s daughter and Bono’s daughters graduated. I guess Denzel doesn’t read cc. :)”</p>
<p>Exactly! Those kids can get in anywhere and it doesn’t matter where. Their parents are their connections. They don’t need NYU or any other school to get them connected. Denzel Washington went to Fordham by the way and when I see him I’ll tell him to check out your posts on CC.</p>
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<p>notactingmom, that’s an excellent question. I’ve been around here for 10+ years and it has always been thus. It’s almost always from people who do not attend, who can’t afford to attend, or who are just plain nasty enough to have another agenda. There’s really no good explanation. No other school brings out peoples’ negativity and rudeness like NYU. It isn’t the school for everyone but for the majority of kids who go there, it is a wonderful experience and they get excellent training, while making more connections than any student could hope for anywhere.</p>
<p>I agree that showcases are overrated. I know enough people in the casting end of the busines that I’ve heard the stories, time and time again. Most people sent to many of the showcases in NY are lower level employees. Do some students get interest? Sure but that interest is usually reflected in being invited in for an interview with the agency. It doesn’t necessarily mean that they will get representation, and if they are offered representation, it doesn’t mean that it’s the right agent for them. I’ve never understood why this particular aspect is so darn important to so many prospective students and their parents. It isn’t a race, as if there are only so many agent spots available and you have to grab one quick or you’re out of luck! Not all agencies, or agents, are created equal. This isn’t something you want to rush into, trust me. Research needs to be done and careful thought needs to be had, before making a decision that may tie you to someone for a period of time.</p>
<p>It’s a fact that kids at schools in the city are seen by working professionals in the biz on a regular basis. This is probably the biggest advantage to being at a school in NYC. Not only Tisch, but the others as well, although the Tisch studios are famous for their relationship with working professionals, for obvious reasons. When my D was there, her studio had visiting artists and industry pros on a weekly basis. No exaggeration. The performances were always attended by these individuals, often the smaller productions ended up with more industry people in the audience than the larger ones, probably because most parents were not willing to travel for so many different productions, and understandably so. </p>
<p>Tisch is a good school but it is very expensive. That isn’t a secret and shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone who applies who has done even a modicum of research. It’s in a large, urban college with all that that entails, and living in NYC is not for everyone. This is one example of the value of early college visits. It’s nice to see when someone just admits that they’ve changed their mind about a school and wishes others well there. Sadly, too many don’t react that way.</p>
<p>Each kid is going to have different parameters for what they want their college experience to be. Let’s hope that they can all find that particular school where they can be happy and be well-trained, and then get in! :)</p>
<p>dramamom0804, ditto for my daughters, who are both top students at Northwestern and Williams, quite serious and accomplished, although we live in a 1000 square foot rental and have one bathroom, so their sacrifice for their craft isn’t that different from their normal living conditions at our home, with me, the Old Woman Who Lives in a Shoe. :-)</p>
<p>@connections, haha, very funny. Here’s a guy who lived in his car to save money: <a href=“Ken Ilgunas Lived in His Van to Pay for College”>Ken Ilgunas Lived in His Van to Pay for College;
<p>alwaysamom - Thanks for the post. This is more helpful than the previous comments. My daughter was accepted to Tisch, we can afford it and I wanted legitimate input regarding schools so I have no nasty agenda. Just fighting back and protecting the “little guy” UNCSA from other posters. </p>
<p>“Each kid is going to have different parameters for what they want their college experience to be. Let’s hope that they can all find that particular school where they can be happy and be well-trained, and then get in! :)” </p>
<p>DITTO! thanks again.</p>
<p>dramastudent2014 - thank you. I was venting because of comments by mommy5. My daughter is smart enought to be an engineer, doctor, lawyer, or actress. Just wanted to let everyone know that there are lots of reasons to attend a conservatory rather than a traditional college. Dramamom’s daughter sounds awesome!</p>
<p>@fun2beme, the Tisch parents did not change the tone of this thread, you did. You started off with a question about 3 schools asking for feedback. In your OP, you mentioned that NYU was your daughter’s top choice. You got some feedback from people including me and another Tisch parent. None of which was braggy. None of which was disparaging to the other two excellent schools. </p>
<p>@Mommy5 never said you can’t get a true college experience at a smaller arts school. Those are your words. She did say that her daughter (and mine and she is correct about that) wanted larger, urban and a school where academics were part of the focus so therefore, at least one of the three schools on your list never made it to our daughter’s list. She is guessing, and I suspect she is right, that it would also not make it to the list of many of her peers because they had similar criteria. Doesn’t make that other school any less worthy. Doesn’t make Tisch less worthy. They are very different. @Mommy5 raised a good point when she suggested that the same kid who would be attracted to the environment at Tisch might not find the attributes at UNCSA to their liking and visa versa. It’s something to think about that is all especially in light of the fact that you started off saying that Tisch is your daughter’s top choice. What does she want?</p>
<p>@Dramastudent2014. Mommy5 never said that there are not bright kids at small arts schools. Those are your words. She did say that her daughter chose to seek a theatre program in a school that was known for their academics too. That is not what UNCSA is known for so it wouldn’t be a fit for that reason as well as not being a fit for her daughter’s urban desires. But yes, it is an excellent theatre program otherwise that I can certainly understand the draw for especially given the price which is incredible.</p>
<p>Can we please get this thread back to what it is really about? Bathrooms. I really want to talk more about bathrooms. </p>
<p>@fun2beme My daughter would choose DePaul in a heartbeat. Their training and new facilities can’t be beat. The only rejection she cried about was DePaul, but she is happily choosing Fordham over NYU, FWIW. She even said that her acceptance at NYU didn’t make her that proud, because so many kids are accepted to it and even though it has a stellar reputation, Tisch is simply not what she wants. She also has a friend who’s considering choosing Tisch over Purchase, and she thinks that friend is nuts!</p>
<p>halfokum - I didn’t address your posts because I found them informative and not offensive. I did address mommy5 because they were offensive. And mommy 5 is the one who implied that bright kids don;t go to arts schools when she wrote " Plus she’s a bright kid and it was important to us that she continue with her academics and get a complete education." I know that bright kids choose arts schools over other traditional colleges. Not my words. She also wrote: " My daughter didn’t apply there because that is not the college experience she was after. She is at NYU and having an incredible college experience, " implying one cannot have an incredible college experience at a smaller school. Really?</p>
<p>My daughter loves New York City and believes that NYU has an excellent training program. That may change if she doesn’t get her first choice of programs. However, she is equally impressed with DePaul and UNCSA. Obviously she would rather the latter two schools be in NYC. Academics are not an issue since she is already brilliant. But she will ultimately decide which program best suits her needs since this thread is going to the toilets anyway. :)</p>
<p>Believe it or not, continuing academics are an issue for many "brilliant’ 18-year olds so art schools may not make the cut for that reason. Good grief. </p>
<p>sherryjane73 - thanks for the post about DePaul. Sorry your daughter didn’t get in but she has great options. My daughter has a friend who has been at SUNY Purchase for two years now. The training is awesome. If she wants my daughter’s friend to get in touch with her friend send me a private message. Fordham also as a great training program! My daughter is considering Fordham as well. Best of Luck to her!</p>
<p>flossy - You are right. Academics are important for many brilliant 18 year olds but not for mine. And I was specifically talking about my daughter. :)</p>
<p>@sherryjane - my D also took her rejection from DePaul VERY hard. It was her #1 choice and she was heartbroken when that didn’t pan out - much more so than any other school. She would have slept in her suitcase in the El station and use the public restrooms if it meant she could go to the Theatre School at DePaul. And she’s always had her own bathroom at home. </p>
<p>jkellnh17 - love your video post!</p>
<p>@fun2beme. I’m glad that you did not find my posts offensive. I endeavor never to be offensive and if I ever am, it’s by accident and I will own it and apologize. Full disclosure, I am a bit offended with some of what you are writing about NYU. Would you please re-read it and imagine how you would feel if you were in my shoes.</p>
<p>@halflokum
MOMMY5 clearly stated, " None of her good friends in Tisch auditioned at little art schools. Again, nothing wrong with them, just not what they wanted their college experience to be. Yet for some reason, kids that have their hearts set on the little art programs, also audition at Tisch. Why? The answer is pretty obvious."
Was this not criticizing more conservatory styled programs? Why is the answer “quite obvious.”
In addition her statement is simply incorrect. I know several tisch students who applied to other “little art schools” and were rejected. I also know many students who were accepted to both…meaning that people who audition for tisch also audition for smaller conservatory type schools, but let’s face it-- every other drama program in the country is smaller than tisch. If you check out the unified group many of the students who were accepted into tisch also applied for other schools that weren’t as large as NYU. I have no doubt students at tisch enjoy their training (I have friends who love being in drama at NYU) but there is no secret that smaller programs like UNCSA and CMU are more selective. </p>