<p>Why isn't it one of the CC's "Top Universities"...?
Is CAS ranked kind of high or low, generally?
I'm just wondering....</p>
<p>the "Top Universities" are the US News Top 25 schools. NYU is ranked 32nd. Maybe in 4 or 5 years it'll be up there though :).</p>
<p>That CC list of so called "top" universities is a joke...its a carbon copy of an old US News list not CC's own ranking (the US News ranking itself is pretty retarded). NYU is more selective than many of the schools on that list.</p>
<p>Those rankings change a lot over time. I bet NYU will eventually become a top 25 due to its already high and still increasing selectivity.</p>
<p>nyu might be very good, even excellent for business etc... but the rankings reflect a real fact: nyu is still one level down from the top top and also not too long ago (10-15 years) nyu was a pretty midlevel/ lousy school</p>
<p>sniff sniff...Im sure it'll be better</p>
<p>NYU only makes the top 40 because of Stern. It attracts a significantly more accomplished student body.</p>
<p>I don't think the only smart people at NYU are sterns school students. I had a 1600 SAT and applied to the CAS (I got a sunday at the square thing...so I'm very likely getting in). I go to a top private school that sends many students to NYU every year, they go to arts & science, stern, and few quirky/artistic types go to tisch, and they are all fairly accomplished (thats just how my high school is).</p>
<p>breadpitt is back!</p>
<p>In terms of overal strength in research, NYU is actually much stronger than quite a few of the universities on the CC list, such as Georgetown, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, University of Virgina, Carnegie Mellon, etc. For an objective evaluation and ranking, go to </p>
<p>Moreover, the professional schools of NYU, Law, Medicine, Business, are far better than those of the above universities, and many others on the CC list.</p>
<p>"but the rankings reflect a real fact"</p>
<p>-It all depends on whose doing the ranking and what it is thats being ranked. The US News is simply one ranking, not the end all-be all, its not even the best ranking or most objective one out there if you judge methodologies (too much reliance on subjective things like peer assessment). What I was talking about was quality of student body, where NYU beats several of the so called "top" CC universities.</p>
<p>"NYU only makes the top 40 because of Stern."</p>
<p>Thats a patently dumb statement. Yes, Stern along w/Wharton is the best undergrad b-school in country, but NYU has many top departments outside of business, including philosophy, math, economics, film, art, foreign languages (all considered top notch). Furthermore, while Stern has the top SAT score of an individual NYU school...NYU has 4000 people a class, and 500 or about 12% of those are Stern students. If you took away Stern completely from NYU, NYU's overall SAT score would fall by less than 10 points....still putting it above several schools in the CC top 25, and certainly many more in the top 40.</p>
<p>agreed atnyu^, but the rankings are a bit outdated.</p>
<p>Extremely selective doesn't mean extremely good. NYU is so selective because too many people apply and too many people apply because it's in NYC. This still doesn't mean it's as good a school as the ones above it on that list.</p>
<p>agree^ too.</p>
<p>"Extremely selective doesn't mean extremely good."</p>
<p>Yes it does if you believe in the free market economic concepts of supply and demand. Top colleges get many more applications than they have spots available for a reason...its precisely because they are good. The demand (ie number of applicants) for schools like NYU is much higher than the supply (ie number os students that can be taken). Selective colleges are by definition good colleges (note: this does not mean that all good colleges are selective...some have like U of Chicago have fairly high acceptance rates since they have a self selected applicant pool).</p>
<p>"NYU is so selective because too many people apply and too many people apply because it's in NYC."</p>
<p>First off, the only way a college can be selective is if too many people apply....theres that supply and demand thing again. While the location is obviously a draw, NYU itself is still a great university. There are plenty of other big apple colleges that are nowhere near as selective or have the student body quality of NYU.</p>
<p>i dont agree with you .. i think people apply and choose NYU essentially cause its in NYC which in turn brings in a lot of students and money which lets them improve compared to 10 years ago... for example, the way its set up , i.e buildings all over the place , sometimes subway ride from dorm to class etc.. would be a definite no-no for almost any regular applicant if that school was in another city... but people will tolerate it at nyu ONLY cause they get all the privileges of nyc</p>
<p>sorry but, if someone wants NYC and academic excellence they go to Columbia...</p>
<p>"sorry but, if someone wants NYC and academic excellence they go to Columbia..."</p>
<p>wow you just lost all credibility with me lol</p>
<p>""sorry but, if someone wants NYC and academic excellence they go to Columbia..."</p>
<p>I'm sure the Stern students who are coveted by investment banks and graduate schools would get a kick out of hearing this. btw Stern>Columbia, ask anyone.</p>
<p>"i think people apply and choose NYU essentially cause its in NYC which in turn brings in a lot of students and money which lets them improve compared to 10 years ago"</p>
<p>-Like I said, the location is a big plus, but you make it sound like NYU is the only school in NY. Newsflash: Its not, there are plenty of other colleges in New York City that don't come anywhere near NYU in selectivity or quality. </p>
<p>"sometimes subway ride from dorm to class etc"</p>
<p>-You obviously don't know much about NYU. First off, freshmen live in dorms around Washington Sq. which is literally a 2 minute walk from class (less than that for some other dorms). Most upper classmen live in dorms around Union Sq. which is maybe about a 10-15 minute walk from class. Yes, there are some upper classmen dorms for which you can take a subway to class (NYU also has its own bus system)...and these dorms tend be pretty luxerious, its the trade off between proximity and niceness. Even a 15 minute subway ride is not a big deal considering at some schools its takes 45 minutes to get to class from one's residence. </p>
<p>"sorry but, if someone wants NYC and academic excellence they go to Columbia"</p>
<p>So, whats your point?....NYC can't have more than one good school? That hardly makes sense. The fact is, there are some areas where NYU is just as good or better than Columbia (this comes from someone whose attended and is familiar with both schools)...and the overall SAT gap between the 2 schools is fairly small. But I digress, you're the expert even though I'd venture you'd dont' know much about either NYU or Columbia. I guess the 34,000 people, (most of them top students) who apply to NYU, and the ones who then get accepted and go, probably don't care for academics....yeah whatever.</p>
<p>I totally agree with go48.
NYU is not some awesome school, and people are only dying to go there because its in NYC. Move the institution to Indiana, and the only applicants it would get would be to their business school.
What schools did applicants turn down to go to NYU? Start a thread on that, and you will get the picture.
Most everyone in my school applies to NYU as a safety.</p>