October 2010 CR SAT Thread

<p>“shut up ■■■■■”- raywilliamjohnson reference ftw</p>

<p>anyone care to discuss the trojan war question about architectural evidence vs homer?</p>

<p>^ It is definitely Homer - Thuy drew all of his evidence from Homer as indicated by the beginning of the paragraph.</p>

<p>look who the hell says antidote has to be permanent? no, it just cures something, a stimulant would have increased his rage, or STIMULATED IT, wow u guys think way to into it</p>

<p>i think people need to start accepting that they got questions wrong and stop arguing</p>

<p>an·ti·dote
   /ˈæntɪˌdoʊt/ Show Spelled [an-ti-doht], verb, -dot·ed, -dot·ing.
–noun

  1. a medicine or other remedy for counteracting the effects of poison, disease, etc.
  2. something that prevents or counteracts injurious or unwanted effects: Good Jobs are the best antidote to teenage crime.</p>

<p>stim·u·lant
   /ˈstɪmyələnt/ Show Spelled[stim-yuh-luhnt]
–noun

  1. something that temporarily quickens some vital process or the functional activity of some organ or part: Adrenalin is a stimulant for the heart.
  2. any food or beverage that stimulates, esp. coffee, tea, or, in its initial effect, alcoholic liquor.
  3. a stimulus or incentive.</p>

<p>the passage was saying when hes miserable he likes to revisit his childhood in order to make him feel better (aka a remedy that prevents or counteracts his misery) – nowhere in the passage did it say he wanted to speed anything up</p>

<p>also for undesirable vs. inevitable, although it makes sense for the effects to be undesirable nowhere in those lines did it actually say that was his opinion on it. What it did say was that it was sure to happen.</p>

<p>in both of these questions people are straying too far from the actual text to produce their answers when one of the biggest rules in any prep book is to only draw from what is stated. Although one may seem to work, if it’s not supported in the text than it cannot be the best answer</p>

<p>Rewilding
-undesirable OR inevitable</p>

<p>Inevitable, thats what the tone sounded like, he didnt really critcize what could happen.</p>

<p>Also was it illustate points passage 1, passage 2 discusses in general terms</p>

<p>or was it technical terms passage 1, passage 2 shows 2 conflicting points?</p>

<p>homer was his base for formulating his thesis, sure, but you don’t base something’s credibility on itself.</p>

<p>“Are you dumb? Why do people drink caffeine to get them more active? Why do people take stimulants/drugs to relieve themselves?”</p>

<p>He wasn’t STIMULATING any condition whatsoever. He was GETTING RID OF his EXISTING condition with a ****ing ANTIDOTE.</p>

<p>“also for undesirable vs. inevitable, although it makes sense for the effects to be undesirable nowhere in those lines did it actually say that was his opinion on it. What it did say was that it was sure to happen.” </p>

<p>That’s just blatantly now true - look at the passage. Obviously if it’s inevitable, why is the author giving us an alternative method of fixing it? It would make zero sense if it’s inevitable. Furthermore, the author indicates that the current way of doing things ultimately fails to fix the root cause. The author has to either say its desirable or not - obviously the author thinks that the current method is failing.</p>

<p>“also for undesirable vs. inevitable, although it makes sense for the effects to be undesirable nowhere in those lines did it actually say that was his opinion on it. What it did say was that it was sure to happen.”</p>

<p>He strongly suggested that using his method of rewilding would be the best bet in averting the BLATANTLY UNDESIRABLE future.</p>

<p>Antidote:

  1. med a drug or agent that counteracts or neutralizes the effects of a poison<br>
  2. anything that counteracts a harmful or unwanted condition; remedy</p>

<p>"no you are the idiot. antidote has never had a permanent connotation, maybe except in your head. I could drink poison, then drink an antidote. I’m all healthy now. But if i drink the poison again tomorrow, im pretty sure im gonna need another antidote. It’s not some sort of vaccine. "</p>

<p>His problems are not intentional. He knows his problems will not be solved. He just wants a temporary relief. That is why he compares his actions to the little child because his happiness does not last forever. If you use an antidote, it counteracts the poison or in this case his problems. Antidote is not something you use to have it last only temporarily. Why else would there be antidotes in the first place? The log road is not an “antidote” because it does not solve his problems, it merely relieves him from his problems. Stimulant is the correct answer.</p>

<p>What about the objectively viewed question? I though objectively was the best answer?</p>

<p>god… its undesirable, not inevitable. As test prep books would call such things, its an extreme/distortion. Listen to this: By DEFAULT scenario, we will SURELY end in doom. Do those capital words make it sound inevitable? But its not inevitable if we don’t follow the default scenario! How simple is that?</p>

<p>but it was asking about his statement in those lines where he specifically said it was sure to happen. So in that spot he clearly though the events were inevitable, although on a whole he may have considered it to be undesirable in those lines he was simply saying that if YOU DONT MAKE A CHANGE IT WILL HAPPEN so he was emphasizing that the possibly “undesirable” events were INEVITABLE – even if they were undesirable inevitable was a better fit for this question in particular</p>

<p>no… you got it backwards. He was emphasizing that UNDESIRABLE events were possibly inevitable, not “that the possibly “undesirable” events were INEVITABLE”.</p>

<p>well at this point clearly you’re not going to convince me and im not going to convince you so arguing isnt gonna do anything</p>

<p>It’s inevitable. I don’t see why there is a confusion for this.</p>

<p>Ok, ive been on this thread for a while now. I have considered many arguments and was even persuaded by some of them. I am 99% confident this is the correct list:</p>

<p>**
Sentence Completions
-Decorum…
-prolific…trenchant
-retiring…penchant
-slovenly
-ecletic
-unremitting
-mudslinging
-permeate
-traversing…wealth
-reconciliating…enmity
-benign
-illicit
-thriving…harsh
-misnomer
-circumspect…erroneously
-downplay…magnitude
-wasted</p>

<p>Passage About Jumping Rope
-Parents habits were predictable
-line __ suggests that they were confident about their jump roping skills
-vibrant and well being for the helix
-ice skater
-a significant personal pastime
-comparison</p>

<p>Passage about Trojan War
-thucidides based most of his work from Homer
-probably did not occur
-magna carta question…to vividly portray the time gap between the writings
-uniform most nearly means unanimous
-some celebrate events are not verified
-paradox because people firmly believe in something without evidence
-Thucydides conveyed that the imbalance of power worked to the benefit of some, at the expense of others.</p>

<p>Movie Critic
-Whom would it offend? - Discerning Moviegoers
-passage suggest there was disagreement over her work
-the purpose of the personal anecdote in lines __ was to introduce something
-relationship between style and substance
-genius most nearly means exceptional talent
-true most nearly means genuine
-first few lines suggest that the narrator has admiration for Kael
-Oscar wilde - artfully written biography with factual errors
-lively and compelling for the question about the ‘fizz’
-hacked down means critize vigorously
-for question with 2 people, she wasn’t the only one that preferred less ornate writing
-something about colloquial
-resolute</p>

<p>Rewilding
-undesirable
-ethical issue because humans probably had a part in it
-Passage 2 author would think that the “significant risks” mentioned in Passage 1 were well-founded
-coping with problems and not finding solutions
-Passage 1 would think the last part of Passage 2 (the suggestions about what to do with the money) was inadequate.
-Last part of passage 2 - suggesting alternatives.
-concession leading to rebuttal
-Something about the cheetah in P1 and mammoth in P2 - both are extinct.
-The situation with the camel in rewilding - unable to live in the nonnative environment.
-Most important concern about rewilding raised in P2 - that the proxy species could irreversibly impact the native species and their ecological system?
-the authors use questions to raise doubts regarding their opposition
-distinct = different
-both authors took positions on a possible plan of action</p>

<p>Funding of radio short passage
-harming the function of america’s democracy or something.
-lines __ showed analogy
-passage 1 was more emphatic
-passage 2 makes points, and passage 2 presents conflicting views</p>

<p>Log Cabin Short Passage
-antidote
-shortlived</p>

<p>Mother/Daughter Short Passage
-mother’s tone showed conviction</p>

<p>**</p>

<p>^ <em>Sigh</em> ■■■■■■. UNDESIRABLE FTW.</p>

<p>I got perfect for passage-based questions in the May SAT, and I am 1000% sure that the controversial answers are indeed “antidote” and “undesirable”.</p>

<p>But please, let’s not start a flame war. Things are getting out of hand here.</p>

<p>As another CC had mentioned before, the author said “default” or by “design.” He then explained the default scenario, which was undesirable…He never said it was inevitable. He merely said that was the default scenario, which is undesirable, if we do not take any action and “design” a plan soon.</p>