<p>^ Which means roughly 1 in 4 (.26) of this year ED applicants will be accepted (1396 applied, entering class is about 1100, 1/3 is 367). </p>
<p>If it is like last year, 1 in 3 of the accepted EDer will be recruited athletes. If we take them out of the mix, then about 17% of non-recruited athletes will be accepted. This is roughly the RD percentage admit rate last year. </p>
<p>This ED calculation doesn't include URMs and legacies. </p>
<p>One wonders if 66% of the ED admits will be athletes, URMs and legacies. If this is case, then we are looking at an ED admit rate, exclusive of special preferences, at between 8-9% or about 1 in 12. </p>
<p>Yikes!!! Please show me where I am are wrong.</p>
<p>balletgirl, take into account that some of those URMs and legacies might also be recruited athletes. I need some optimism out of you. Also I don't think they designate a certain amount of spots for legacies (even though its been around 60 for the past couple years) and with so many well qualified applicants i think legacy status matters less and less.</p>
<p>I am pretty sure last year's total admit rate at D was just under 16%, according to D's common data set. </p>
<p>frenchfootballer and slipper,</p>
<p>Thanks for the input on URMs, legacies and the issue of double counting. When I recalculate for non-preference applicants under slightly amended assumptions, I get an admit rate for ED of about 16%. We are now in the 1 in 6 range, at best.</p>
<p>This is much better kat1228 and frenchfootballer. Sorry for the alarm.</p>
<p>Remember that many top students are applying RD because they want to weigh their options with other schools. If you are definitely a top student with an academic index of 8 or 9 and have a great essay and great teacher and admin rec's, you still have a great chance of getting in. Dartmouth wants to take these students off the table from accepting admissions to another school. Remember also, that the stats you see on this site are not necessarily a reflection of the actual pool of candidates. If you are a top student with high scores, high gpa, and have shown a passion for a particular field of study then you have done everything that is possible. If you do not get in here, there are ten other schools that cannot wait to offer you admission. Good luck out there.</p>
<p>I have to agree with Redondo Dave about the actual pool vs. the pool that lists their stats on this page. His theory about taking the top AI kids ED to get them off the table of other schools is an interesting point. I would be curious to hear other opinions about this. Does anybody have the mean scores, GPA's, etc. of ED vs RD acceptance for last year? Must always keep the recruited athlete factor in mind here</p>
<p>After regular decisions were announced the paper reported
"One measure of the academic strength of the pool its SAT averages. This years average math and verbal scores were 726 and 723 respectively, which are comparable to previous years. Furstenberg noted that the new writing section on the SATs are not given as much emphasis during the acceptance process because the College is unsure of how this section reflects intelligence. </p>
<p>Also of note, 37.2 percent of students were valedictorians of their high schools, and a record 94.4 percent were ranked in the top 10 percent of their class, up from 93.1 percent last year.</p>
<p>Of the admitted students, 134 are legacies, down from 148 in the Class of 2010. Furstenberg stated that the legacy connection is an advantage to a students application, though it is only one contributing factor."</p>
<p>So one can conclude that the scores of admitted students were higher for RD than ED. However, the article is ambigious in terms of which "pool" it refers to. Is it the full group of admitted students including the ED people, or is it the RD admits analyzed separately. The article is here: TheDartmouth.com</a> | Acceptance rate hits all-time low</p>
<p>FYI, in case anyone is wondering why I looked at the school paper instead of the common data set, the papers seems to be the best place to find stats of admitted students as opposed to enrolled students.</p>
<p>sneamia, very stat heavy, you have next to zero meaningful extracurriculars...and I don't see that entrepreneurial spirit or drive to succeed reflected very well</p>
<p>Amen to that Chief...at least someone here knows what he's talking about. In response to the previous statistics about ED stats vs RD stats, keep in mind that some of the lowest scores come from recruited athletes, a great number of which apply ED</p>
<p>I seriously think that we need to start a new thread on the actual decision day. This one has too much non-decision talk. Ajay, i'm leaving it up to you to start one, but not until 3:00 (EST) the day of.</p>
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<p>I started a study guide business at my school, and I'm working on integrating it with our NHS chapter. I don't know if next-to-zero would be an accurate term.</p>
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<p>And he says his app was stat-oriented. He knows, there's no need to rub it in. I think you're being a bit harsh there...
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<p>Thanks, I appreciate that.</p>
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I seriously think that we need to start a new thread on the actual decision day. This one has too much non-decision talk. Ajay, i'm leaving it up to you to start one, but not until 3:00 (EST) the day of.
<p>I would be more than happy to start a thread but I there is a possibility that I wont be able to come online. So please someone else take up this job! :)</p>
<p>I'm sure the pmoose will or ballet girl. i think it should go on by 2:45 though........my hands will be shaking too much.....i'll be shakin so much i might as well fill the tub and throw myself and a load of laundry in. multi task! if no one else can, i have last period free but let's establish exactly what we want.......ok</p>
<p>Ughhhh.... I will be driving by Hanover on Friday with my friends... It's scary to think that I will know by then, and I will either be stopping at the bookstore and buying a million articles of Dartmouth clothing, or trying stoically to avoid crying while driving by the highway exit...</p>