<p>Wanted to see how other people are doing with the transfer process and get a feel for their stats</p>
<p>Please use this template when posting stats:</p>
<p>Transferring from:
What Major you applied for:
Career Objective:</p>
<p>Gender/Ethnicity: Male/Asian</p>
<p>SAT:
HS GPA:
HS rank:
HS (Grades 9-12) EC:</p>
<p>College GPA:
College EC:</p>
<p>Accepted/Rejected:</p>
<p>Here are my stats</p>
<p>Transfer from University of South Florida
Hoping for a Biomedical Engineering major (not offered at USF)
Career Objective: Oncology research</p>
<p>Male/Asian</p>
<p>SAT: 1920 (1370 M+ CR)
College GPA: 3.57 (4.0 in the mid term report which should bring me up to a 3.78)
HS GPA: 3.4 unweighted, 4.1 weighted (IB program got a 33 on the Exams)
HS rank: Bottom 50%</p>
<p>HS (Grades 9-12) EC:</p>
<p>• Vice President Grandkids (met with terminal patients and made scrapbooks about their lives)
• Manger of a small book shop at Church, handled inventory and sales, had 3 people under me
• Youth Pastor took a surprising amount of time and effort
• Service program member (over 150 hours completed in high school, been doing it since 6th grade)
• Volunteered at a Hospital (Front desk, greeted patients and helped nurses with equipment and discharges, over 150 hours)
• Peer Leader (Basically the “orientation” for high school freshmen)
• Earned letters of merit from the cities of Tampa and Dunedin as well as the PVSA twice for voluntary work
Key Club (Not mentioned on the app, didn’t have enough room and had no leadership here)
• NHS (Not mentioned on the app, didn’t have enough room and had no leadership here)
• Debate Club ((Not mentioned on the app, didn’t have enough room and had no leadership here)
• Robotics (Not mentioned on the app, didn’t have enough room and had no leadership here, did win the state championship and came in second in regionals)</p>
<p>College EC:
• Coached basketball for children under age of 14 came second in a regional tournament
• GED/ESOL Teacher over 92% pass rate for immigrants: THis is what I focused on in my supplement
• Clinic manager (Paid bills, billed customers, answered phone, unpaid intern)
• Managed and reffed Tennis games in a national sports tournament over 5 courts and 40 athletes, had 20 people under me
• Continued with the book shop and the Service program in college</p>
<p>Accepted/Rejected: N/A (Could someone chance me?)</p>
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<p>We do not have engineering per se. We have a joint PhD in biomedical engineering with Georgia Tech. We also have a 3/2 program with Georgia Tech for undergraduates, but you still need to complete a different major and the residency requirements of Emory College. Also, you can probably expect to pay out-of-state tuition for Georgia Tech, which you will likely receive very little need-based aid for. Not trying to discourage you, just wanted to let you know.</p>
<p>I saw you on the Wash U thread. I’d say you have a better shot at Emory than Wash U just because of Wash U’s low transfer acceptance rate. </p>
<p>Anyone know when decisions come out? I know it says late April… but does anyone know anything more specific than that?</p>
<p>Lol yay I was waiting for one!</p>
<p>Transferring from: UT satellite school
What Major you applied for: Classics
Career Objective: Pre-health</p>
<p>Gender/Ethnicity: Male/Asian (Southeast)</p>
<p>ACT: 33
HS GPA: 3.91 UW, 4.18 W (highest possible: 4.33)
HS rank: Doesn’t rank, but top 10% (the highest they “report”)
HS (Grades 9-12) EC:
[<em>] Latin Tutor
[</em>] Camp Counselor for children with muscular dystrophy
[<em>] Choir all 4 years
[</em>] Varsity Swimmer
[<em>] Varsity Water Polo
[</em>] 500 hrs. service</p>
<p>College GPA: 4.0
College EC:
[<em>] Newspaper Contributor
[</em>] Filipino Student Association
[<em>] LGBT
[</em>] Honors College newsletter contributor</p>
<p>Accepted/Rejected:
[<em>] Accepted (so far): U. Richmond, Vanderbilt, Colorado College
[</em>] Waiting on: Emory, Notre Dame, Rice, UPenn, Haverford, Vassar, Swarthmore, Amherst, Bates</p>
<p>@aigiqinf My mistake I applied to Emory as a biochem major, I just pasted this from another school’s transfer thread, I applied to GA tech as a BME too</p>
<p>@Sammvp1 I had called Emory to make sure that my recommendations were received on time as my recommender had issues with the Common App, when I asked about admissions the counselor was hesitant to give an exact date. He stated that the decisions would come out at different times for different people. On another note, have you heard back from Wash U? I still have not, they said they had all of my materials and to wait another 4-5 weeks. It has been 4 weeks does that mean I got rejected or what?</p>
<p>@Juvenis You have excellent stats, nice job with the admissions so far, I applied to Vanderbilt too and have not heard back yet (I’m pulling my hair out at this point).</p>
<p>Thanks! And yes. I submitted my Wash U app on March 1st and heard back March 19th. (I was accepted) I applied to the College of Arts and Sciences. I heard applying to different schools means different decision times. </p>
<p>@HopefulScholar64 : Feel free to go to Vanderbilt for BME, but don’t go there for anything involving undergraduate chemistry. You’re much better off at WashU (should have BME and very good chemistry dept but very tough), Emory (very good chemistry dept, but very tough), or even Tech (which has BME). You have some better options for those things, so don’t tear your hair about that one. I know that even though we don’t offer a formal Biochemistry concentration, we’re still better than them in terms of undergraduate studies for that mainly because of some of the faculty members and teaching we have for certain courses. You can basically just mix your chemistry major with key biology courses and get a better result than doing a biochem. concentration there. I’m pretty sure of it after investigating some of their course work in chemistry and biology (in addition, our chemistry department is a bit more robust). WashU on the other hand is very good for either of your objectives. Don’t let rankings and prestige fool you. Science education at these schools are often very different due to a number of factors unrelated to rank or student body quality. </p>
<p>Does anyone know exactly what date “late April” refers to? Also, when do we hear about financial aid packages? </p>
<p>@bernie12 Thank you for the advice, I really appreciate the guidance. I have been to Emory’s campus more times than I can count as my extended family lives 15 minutes away and it was my first choice when I was applying for Freshman admissions so I know a lot about their programs. I applied to Emory as a chem major but planned on doing the same thing you described. The only problem with Emory is that they give out a majority of their aid in loans instead of grants or scholarships. Vanderbilt and WashU seem to give more grants but they are harder to get into.</p>
<p>You also mentioned that the Chemistry department at Vanderbilt is not very good, is there anything that makes you say that? I am not denying that the other schools are very good at chemistry, just wondering why you said that Vanderbilt is worse. I am having trouble finding rankings for specific departments for Undergrad</p>
<p>@Sammvp1 I also applied to the CAS school in Wash U for Biochemistry/Molecular Biology but have not heard back. I applied the 15th of March to all of my schools. I was held up because of my recommender’s issues with Common App, she actually submitted the letter on 4 PM on the 15th so I was unable to send anything before that, I hope that this didn’t reflect poorly on my application. I called around a week after to make sure the school got both of my recommendations and they told me to wait 5 more weeks. This week is the 5th week and I still have not heard anything.</p>
<p>@HopefulScholar64 Lol thanks! Not sure about Vandy though because the FA they gave me wasn’t as great as I’d hoped. I just hope Emory can do better.</p>
<p>They said no longer than 6 weeks so your decision has to be coming soon. Goodluck!!!</p>
<p>@HopefulScholar64 : When I say not that good, I mean relative to some of the other schools you are considering. If you look at it from a research perspective, the faculty at Emory are stronger (many essentially lead centers and people like Liotta even have huge administrative roles in the ACS. The caliber and impact of the research is much stronger, especially among organic, biomolecular, and even physical/theoretical chemists. Even younger faculty members are seeing a ridiculous amount of success. We have Liebskind, Menger!, Bowman, Heaven, Davies!, Lynn!, Liotta!, Hill!!, up and comers like Salaita and Weaver. Salaita is fairly new and recently got Sloan Fellow, Weaver got an early career award from one of the major national organizations. Let’s not talk about some of the Emeritus faculty like Padwa and Goldsmith). In addition, I’ve compared the coursework of the more rigorous/better instructors at each (I could show you some examples via PM later), and it doesn’t match up that well. In addition, if you look at the oppurtunities associated with the departments (just look at the departmental webpages), particularly for undergraduates, it appears Emory is just stronger. Vandy has a Beckmann Scholar’s program which is very nice, but Emory’s has study abroad options (the Sienna program is the fun/most take advantage of), IRES and REU (the one abroad)participation is higher, we have affiliations with other institutions such as Imperial College London (students can study there for a semester), an actual undergraduate chemistry club (but is not for the intellectual type to be honest), and the department has its own undergraduate research symposium (also, we have several awards and grants for undergraduates that are usually connected to our curriculum or the research/scholarly activity of the students. As in, Emory clearly has its own money to throw around, and doesn’t necessarily need a foundation’s program). In addition, Emory’s department is seeing a lot more change/growth. Some of the other programs you mention like Washington University were always very strong and also expanding/changing and have similar characteristics to our program or other top “chem schools”. </p>
<p>Vanderbilt’s department is not as “activated” based upon what I’m seeing, especially in the undergraduate category. The course offerings appear similar though (except that Emory, for example, has 2 semesters of pchem and pchem lab. That’s kind of different. Similarities won’t really last long because they’re changing the curriculum when the new building is finished in about a year). Also, there are some hints that the instruction in our chemistry department is probably better. Aside from the rigor. The teaching by certain instructors in the dept. is actually why many chemistry majors are unusually successful. Some of the instructors teach at an extraordinary level and push students to ridiculous heights. While I would say many of the chemistry majors are smart, a lot of it has to do with us being taught by and mentored by key instructors who teach science/chemistry differently from the norm. Given that Vanderbilt and WashU’s student body is so much better incoming wise, you wouldn’t expect as many students at Emory to be so successful, but no, we for example have had many Goldwaters be given to chemistry majors, especially those who had taken Soria or Weinschenk. And one student who took Soria who will be graduating and going off to Stanford with an NSF fellowship…You would expect that sort of success to be common in a department with better students than the ones we have, but that’s not the case it seems. The intensity and intellectual character of Emory’s chemistry department makes up for it theoretically having weaker students than a place like Vandy. And the schools with similar students also have much more intensity and “activation”.</p>
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<li>My “evidence”/“hints” can be explained to you later in a PM if need be, and take them with a grain of salt. If you were comparing the biology departments, I would say that there are more similarities where we both clearly have strengths and weaknesses. It’s just that us and WashU (and some other national U’s) look more similar for chemistry than us and Vanderbilt. WashU beats us both in biology based upon what I’ve seen (Emory can hang with WashU for neuroscience in terms of quality, but our models for it are completely different).<br></li>
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<p>Look for yourself (I just start off on the undergraduate inquiry page): Vanderbilt: <a href=“Immersion and Internships | Department of Chemistry | Vanderbilt University”>Department of Chemistry | Vanderbilt University; beyond this, go surfing around on the departmental page to see how active, intense, and how much outreach efforts there are…
Emory: <a href=“Undergraduate”>http://chemistry.emory.edu/home//undergraduate/overview/index.html</a> . Just by looking at this, it seems Emory’s UG program is a bit more robust. I still think it has a ways to go before being “very” eminent, but as it stands, it’s probably much better than Vanderbilt’s program (at least for undergraduate. I think the doctoral program is supposedly a bit better as well, but I doubt differences are as noticeable). </p>
<p>It’s kind of like how obvious it should be that their math department is far better than ours (and many others) and you can kind of tell by just looking around on the dept. website. Yes Emory has some heavy hitter faculty, especially Ono, but you can kind of tell that for UG’s, all Emory has is numbers and lesser so intensity and quality (seriously, you can just compare the happenings in the chemistry dept. vs. math within Emory itself to tell that the two depts. are not comparable in caliber). The department is just not as serious or as activated as Vandy’s or other schools that have solid math programs. </p>
<p>Thanks for starting this thread. I would really love to know my decision now given the rather long wait for all Priority applicants.<br>
Anyone tried calling the admissions office? </p>
<p>Also, since most of you people seem to be aware of Emory and Vanderbilt, I would appreciate some help in my case:</p>
<p>I have been accepted by Vanderbilt and UofM - Ann Arbor for economics. Let’s say if accepted by Emory, which of these 3 universities has a stronger Economics dept and a better academic reputation for grad school and better employability. </p>
<p>Thanks a lot for your time. :)</p>
<p>Sammy - where r u transferring from and why/ and why wouldn’t you go to WUSTL where u have already been accepted?
To others: Although I did not apply, it does seem that Vanderbilt has a very welcoming transfer acceptance policy.</p>
<p>to banker: Employability would be best if you went to Mich and especially if got into Ross next year - tho that means 4 more years of college; At Emory you could get into Goz business school and would be more employable than straight eco degree. Grad schools will like all 3, but your GPA and scores will be most important; your first college GPA won’t count. Internships will be easier to get at Mich because of reputation and alumni and at Emory because of Atlanta’s size. I recommend you really investigate the course requirements at each school; there may be bigger differences than you think.</p>
<p>@bernie12 :I would prefer Ann Arbor and Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt is halfway decent (actually pretty good, a bit better than ours I think. The doctoral rankings from NRC start them at 40 and us at 55, oh wait, we won’t be having a doctoral program anymore, so while the two are surprisingly close, it doesn’t really matter. And unfortunately, w/econ. depts at national universities, the UG quality and caliber often correlates with the strength of the graduate program, which can’t always be said for the sciences where the two are sometimes hardly connected) in econ. I believe Ann Arbor is significantly better than both of us (even doctoral level bears it out. It’s no surprise because Ann Arbor tends to do well with quantitative things, and this can include econ.). However, watch out! Michigan is pretty tough academically. It’s probably just as tough if not tougher than us (Vanderbilt and Emory) in the sciences (okay, chemistry at Emory and Michigan is similar in rigor, but on the whole their science programs including chemistry are just a bit more innovative and “interesting” than most private schools, even top ones. Michigan kills us both in computational, engineering math, and physical sciences in general. I would maybe say that biology is more evenly matched, but many of the major Big 10 schools are really, really, really good at UG biology education) and will likely be the same way in econ. Also, generally grading is harsher at Michigan. I think you’ll get a higher caliber/quality experience from there, but be ready to really work for it.Also, it’s large and some people find it tough in large, challenging environments (I would say that Michigan is about every bit as intense as Berkeley for UG in many areas). </p>
<p>@2cents4u I want to keep my options open. Emory is a great school too. :)</p>