I just got rejected. Looks like UChicago or possibly Columbia for me!
From northern Ohio btw
As are most top US colleges.
Is harvard sending out waitlist results on a rolling basis?
@skieurope
Indeed. Sorry if my post may have suggested that only harvard is harder to get into as an international student.
@mrsoccer447 did u check the portal on friday?? also was it an email or portal post? also when’s the last update on your portal - does it say May 19, 2015
I think that Harvard accepts around 11 -12 % International. Think how big the World is
Perhaps in the classes are many Internationals with Ameican passports.
It is more difficult to get accepted in this great University if you are not American Citizen. This is just a fact.
VERYMAR - It is more difficult to get accepted to any of the top US universities as an international student (not just Harvard) I think that is how it should be since it is an American university and thousands of American students are also applying. Realize that thousands of students will have your son’s academic profile. It takes much more than that to get in.
No, it’s closer to 2.5-3% acceptance.
@VERYMAR - perhaps you meant that 11-12% of accepted students are international? That’s in line with Harvard numbers. This does not include dual nationals with US passports - they are not considered to be international applicants.
You have right.It is very difficult!! The major and most popular Univeristies accept every year 1 or 2 students from a one country. What I want to say is, that Harvard very often does not accept even one. student from a country. I heard (I do not know if it is the truth) that Harvard did not accept a student from France this year. The admission rate is 5 - 6 % but In the reallity it is less. Because there are many admissions which are Policy cases.
But the same happens with MIT. It did not accept a very good student (I mean in everything not only SAT’s) and 2 not so good students with American passport were accepted in waiting list.
@VERYMAR - no disrespect and in all honesty, grades, scores, and achievements you mentioned or yet to mention is probably just prerequisite to apply to Harvard and other elite schools. I would say Harvard rejected good half of applicants with similar scores and achievements like your son. Lets take another angle, 2 million seniors in the USA, top 1%, if not more, probably have similar achievements. That is at least 20,000 students. Just to show you how common high scores and achievements along won’t impress AO that much.
You need to find ways to make yourself stand out from the top 1% or 2%. Grades, scores and achievements…just isn’t enough.
Here is a thought. Why don’t foreign countries expand their own university systems so their students can stay home and get an education? The 20 year trend in falling acceptance rates correlates directly with the increase in international students. Instead of subsidizing their students, China and India should build more universities or expand the ones they have. The students coming here are a very small percentage of their populations but their populations are so irresponsibly huge that the numbers are still overwhelming the American universities.
The lack of university slots in China and India is what lead to the Tiger Parent culture. And while those parents and their children may game the system to get into these schools, I am very skeptical that they will be great leaders and innovators. There should be a massive tax/tariff of 100% applied to tuition payments made for foreign students and the revenue should be used to fund merit scholarships for American students. If that doesn’t reverse the trend, go to 200% and keep going until it stops. I might even extend the tax to students who don’t have at least one parent that is a citizen.
The holistic admission process is overwhelmed and broken. Every time they start looking for a new differentiator, it doesn’t take long before people who want to game the system figure it out. Sports…music…leadership activities…volunteering…whatever. Today every child of a tiger parent either volunteers in some third world country, starts their own company, gets a patent, gets published or starts a charity for a third world country. At the same time they play the piano or the violin or both, participate in a sport for which it is easy to make the team like tennis, track or golf and run for student government. Rarely is their interest in any of these genuine but the ends justify the means.
It looks like 33 people have joined the facebook group since right before they started taking people off the waitlist; they must have filled at least half of the spots by now
I wonder how many people are still on the waitlist.
@CCYouLater And I also wonder if there are actually about 1000 people to begin with. I know that’s the usual estimate, but since they don’t release the numbers it could be way higher
@janedoe12 ugh I really hope it’s not higher than 1000!