****OFFICIAL JUNE 2014 SAT BIO E/M THREAD****

<p>also, what gas did the yeast release? and through which process??</p>

<p>My friend took M and thinks he got around a 750. Was it hard?</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/sat-subject-tests-preparation/575313-defy-the-college-board-s-rules-at-your-own-risk.html#latest”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/sat-subject-tests-preparation/575313-defy-the-college-board-s-rules-at-your-own-risk.html#latest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Wow, a lot of M. I took E.</p>

<p>The College Board is very protective of keeping the answers from their more current tests confidential. However, talking abut the test after the fact seems a bit unreasonable since the test is done and your score is set. I was wondering if anyone has some insight about why they are so adamant about this. </p>

<p>I was thinking that perhaps this policy is in place over concerns that future test takers & test re-takers may gain an unfair advantage over those who have not taken and discussed the test questions and answers. Of course, this would be a non-issue if CB did not recycle questions (and sometimes whole exams). I guess this may be a logistics thing, since making, for example, 6 unique SAT BIO exams every year would be impractical. Anyhow, no matter the reason(s), the fact of the matter is that you’re playing by their rules and you risk score cancellation. </p>

<p>“Misconduct includes, but is not limited to:
taking any test questions or essay topics from the testing room, including through memorization, giving
them to anyone else, or discussing them with anyone else through any means, including, but not limited
to, email, text messages or the Internet.” From <a href=“SAT Terms and Conditions – SAT Suite | College Board”>The SAT – SAT Suite | College Board; </p>

<p>anyone want a new doc?</p>

<p>@‌fleemur</p>

<p>Have you considered people in different time zones or even taking tests in different orders? There were people actively using cell phones during our breaks…</p>

<p>hey guys so I’m kinda spazzing out right now because I left 5 blank and got 7-8 wrong… can I still get 700+? Looking at the comments it looks like the curve’s gonna be harsh… Also can I afford to get more wrong or is it looking pretty bad for me right now…</p>

<p>CodeAdam - Sounds like there’s inconsistencies with administering the tests if people were using their cell phones during the breaks. You’d also think that they would give the tests in such an order that at least people in the same time zone couldn’t share if it means that much to them? </p>

<p>Collegeboard should consider offering testing in the summer, seriously.</p>

<p>@fleemur my proctor never said we couldn’t use our phones during the breaks but I didn’t just in case</p>

<p>DaneBrick - That’s pretty revealing b/c the CB website clearly states that, “The use of cell phones and certain other electronic devices as noted below is prohibited within SAT test centers, and you should not bring these devices to the test center.” I guess it’s up to the particular proctor whether they confiscate and/or expel people from the test center. Also, you’re working with a raw score of 73 with 5 blank and 8 wrong which is probably low 700s (730?) but again it depends on the curve. A 73 was a 770 (E) and 780 (M) in 10-11. </p>

<p>Airbus689 - CB held a special August 3rd test date in 2012 for a group of kids enrolled in a special 3 week prep program at Amherst for gifted and talented students (that cost $4500). It didn’t go over to well with the public as you can imagine, as it brought up entitlement issues, especially considering how hard CB works to try and keep the test taking experience on a level playing field for everyone. I guess they just didn’t want to do it on a larger scale, even though it would provide students more study time. </p>

<p>Google “why you can’t take the sat in the summer” to read a short article about it. </p>

<p>Near the end of the molecular section, there was a question asking how is the cancer-causing virus different from others? What was the answer?</p>

<p>Contact Collegeboard, I’m sure they would help you. Seriously, what is wrong with all of you discussing this knowing that it is in violation of your testing rules? I am just so disgusted with kids thinking that rules don’t apply to them. Guess what, they do. Pretty sure CB knows of this and other threads. You do realize when you go to college, grad, med or law school that there are VERY serious conciquences for things like this? Book smarts does not equal common sense it seems. Carry on.</p>

<p>@fleemur @GA2012MOM‌ </p>

<p>Kids were using cell phones in front of the proctors, I guess the proctors either didn’t want to do anything about it or were ignorant of whatever rules CB has in place.</p>

<p>Based on my experience taking the SAT II and PSAT at my school, it seems everyone’s pretty lax about cheating/intent to cheat. During PSAT our proctor had a difficult time speaking English and ended up giving our room a 5+ minute extra on two sections. She left the room at one point without any proctors, but then after 15 minutes another staff member (not a registered proctor) came in to observe us. Yes, she left 30+ kids taking the PSAT in a room by themselves. And yes, after that we only had a teacher who was not trained/guided in any PSAT procedure.</p>

<p>At SAT II, people were openly discussing the questions. I took Math II and a boy in front of me asked me the answer to a few of the harder questions, but next to us there were kids that had taken some other subject first and were intending to take Math II.</p>

<p>There were people on phones texting during the breaks as well, and I’m sure the topic was SAT II since what else would you talk about at 9 AM taking a test on Saturday morning?</p>

<p>I honestly have a difficult problem believing that this only happens at my school. I’ve heard stories about kids going from my (large public) school taking the SAT (II) at nearby private schools for extra time. This really is a question of CollegeBoard enforcement, and I’m sure it’s really hard to make sure each individual proctor/school follows the rules. Fortunately, not everyone has a bad heart and most of those who do end up getting caught at some point in their lives.</p>

<p>What would be my score if I got between 8-12 wrong?</p>

<p>Omg, do you not get it? Just because you can cheat doesn’t mean you should. Have some integrity and do the right thing. The fact that I have to point this out is sad. Maybe Collegeboard needs to monitor better. There are always cheating scandals in the news but it seems they are the tip of the iceburg. Are all of you planning on cheating in college as well? No…just a one time thing? Didn’t think so. For all you premed kids out there, sorry you can’t cheat on the MCAT. You have to empty your pockets inside out everytime you go into the test center. No cheating there. Are you gonna risk your admission to medschool talking about the questions. Get some balls and grow up. Life is full of rules and you need to start following them.</p>

<p>Btw, my good friend is with Collegeboard and is aware of this site and your posts. </p>

<p>@GA2012MOM‌ </p>

<p>I certainly hope you’re not attacking me.</p>

<p>No I did not cheat on any of these tests and no I do not plan on cheating in college as well…
There was nothing in my post or post history that would signify anything about cheating and my personal experience.
Yes I understand life is full of rules…I follow them and I try to get others to follow them as well</p>

<p>What am I supposed to do when others cheat? Do I confiscate their phones? Do I stand up during the PSAT and yell “pencils down”? I’ve spoken to proctors (different ones) about it and nothing manifests. Am I supposed to go against some tenured, unionized teacher at my school and try to get them fired for a misstep when they really just wanted their $100?</p>

<p>You have got to be kidding me with this type of talk. I posted that people had acted in ways that may signify cheating and I was strongly aware of it (negligence on my part, yes), not that I actually did anything at all. My phone was at home during the PSAT and in a sealed bag during the SAT II, if you’re wondering. I refrained from discussing questions and tried to get others to do so to the socially acceptable standard.</p>

<p>“Get some balls”? To do what? If you want me to report this kind of violation, you should probably give me good ways and resources to do so anonymously. Do something objective, don’t say I don’t have balls.</p>

<p>How about you get your friend at CollegeBoard to actually step up enforcement of these problems and not threaten people who discuss them on the internet?</p>

<p>When you want to discuss academic integrity and CB enforcement of it in an objective manner, please post again and revise your earlier one. I find the nature of your talk threatening and incredibly disrespectful. Please understand I hold strong feelings about cheating too, but please also understand I REALLY CAN’T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT!</p>

<p>(on a personal note, I really do want to do something about this. it’s obviously incredibly unfair to those of us that don’t cheat, and it only further represents a lot of the bs in academia.)</p>

<p>CodeAdam, sorry, I was not adressing you, just the cheating culture in general. </p>

<p>Wait didn’t the question ask which is most closely related to fungi?</p>