<p>Ben,</p>
<p>I noticed that you accepted a lot more people than usual EA. Are you expecting a lower yield this year, or a larger freshman class? How do you think this will affect the percent of deferred applicants (or just applicants in general) that you admit RD?</p>
<p>same question as la montagne
but i think they are expecting lower yield than past years for EA . for example out of 3 of my friends that got in. 1 really really really really wanted to go
one has Harvard as top choice but no more EA and the other one is picking between MIT and caltech after CPW... (super small sample, i know. but just to make a point)
and i am one of those REALLY REALLY REALLY want to go deferred students>.<</p>
<p>anyways a facebook group for deferred students
Facebook</a> | Login</p>
<p>Siemens sends letters to colleges for all Regional Finalists. Matt and other MIT people also attend the RF compettion on campus. The other sponsoring schools are also at their respective schools to recruit. It's a great opportunity for the recruiting schools and the kids! </p>
<p>Caltech sent out persoanlized letters to Siemens (and in January, to Intel SFs) recruiting them. There was an article in the Tech (Caltech's campus paper) on this in November. Here's the link: The</a> California Tech</p>
<p>Still, it doesn't hurt to let MIT or any other school know if you made Siemens SF and didn't include it on your app and are now in the deferred pool.</p>
<p>Ok so im guessing benjones or whoever read my app didnt know i was a siemens SF. Aghh...I should have updated MIT!!! Thanks CountingDown for the information. Btw, do you think that adds a lot to the application?</p>
<p>Ducktape,
That is the most incredible story! That's one that will stay with you forever. (And note to everyone else: Admissions folks DO read these blogs. Act accordingly! :) )</p>
<p>bballdude, I have no way of knowing if it would make a difference, but it's a nice national-level award nonetheless and shows skills in research and writing!</p>
<p>bballdude, uh...I think the last few posts just confirmed that he does know.</p>
<p>But I'll bet he didn't identify himself as bballdude on his application...</p>
<p>[ size=5][ color=blue][ b]Deferred[ /b][ /color][ /size]</p>
<p>[ b]Stats:[ /b][ list]
[ *]SAT: 2400 superscore
[ *]SAT II: 800 Math I, Math II, Chem, Physics, 730 Lit
[ *]ACT: 35
[ *]GPA: 4.0 unweighted
[ *]Rank: 1/424
[ *]Other Tests (AMC, AP, IB): AP: 5 - Calc BC, Physics B, Chem, US History, US Government IB: History SL - 6 AMC: 122 AIME: 6
[ /list]
[ b]Subjective[ /b][ list]
[ *]Essays: Ok to pretty good. I wrote on the second topic.
[ *]Teacher Recs: Pretty good. My math teacher is also my Math Club sponsor, and my Spanish teacher is my Scholar's Bowl coach.
[ *]Counselor Rec: Pretty good, I think.
[ *]Supplementary Material: Resume
[ *]Hook(recruited athlete, legacy, Nobel Prize): [ /list] None
[ b]Personal[ /b][ list]
[ *]Location: Kansas
[ *]High School Type: Public
[ *]Ethnicity: Asian
[ *]Gender: Female
[ *]Applied for Financial Aid: Y/N Yes[ /list]
[ b]Other[ /b][ list]
[ *]Extracurriculars: Science Olympiad, NHS, Spanish NHS, Spanish Club treasurer, Math Club founder, piano, Scholar's Bowl, Tri-M
[ *]Awards: AP Scholar with Distinction, Siemens AP Award, National Merit Semifinalist, National Spanish Exam Silver, 3-time AIME qualifier, etc.
[ *]Advice? Commiserations? Feel like bragging?:Waiting. Congratulations to those who were accepted. [ /list]</p>
<p>Decision: Accepted </p>
<p>*] Fee Waiver Used?: NO
[ *] SAT I 650 Math 610 CR 700 Writing
[ *] SAT IIs: 600 World History 580 Spanish (with listening)
[ *] GPA, Weighted and Unweighted: 3.9 Weighted
[ *] Rank: 3/30
[ *] ACT: 28
[ *] APs (including this year's): Environmental Science AP
[ *] IBs (including this year's:
[ *] Senior Yr Courseload: Rigorous (Note: Environmental Science AP). Marriage & Family, Pre-Calculus, Honors Biology, World Cultures, Short Story, (haha yes, that is an easy class...sue me!), Spanish 4
[ *] Number of Apps from Your School: none
[ *] Other stats (Awards, etc.):
[ *] ECs listed on app: Class Representative (one of only 4 in class), Poetry, Captain of Baseball team (won league)
[ *] Job/Work Experience: Work at my farm, but only during the summers, and not too much, so i doubt this really helped
[ *] Essays (subject and responses): AMAZING. Wrote about how I feel like the animals i live with on my farm are people...hard to explain, but it was really good, my teachers said it was one of the best this year
[ *] Teacher Recs: incredible, especially since i was one of the top three in the class
[ *] Counselor Rec: Don't have a counselor at our school...
[ *] Interview (feel, interviewer and general location): Ehh, this could have been a weak point. I felt really awkward and clammy. I perspired a lot and mumbled too much. This isn't the strongest part of my application
[ *] Hook (TASP, RSI, Research, etc.): One of the top students in my school (one of the top 3 students), work hard, play hard, etc.
[ *] State or Country: Missouri
[ *] School Type, Average Stats of School (if available): NA
[ *] Ethnicity: White
[ *] Gender: Male
[ *] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): Parents went to iowa
[ *] Strengths: Class rank, SAT writing (got a 700 out of 800 woot woot!)
[ *] Weaknesses: Not enough extra-curriculars
[ *] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied: I think they noticed that i've overcome struggles in order to achieve greatness, and therefore accepted me. I'm also a very good writer.
[ b]General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc:[ /b] Very surprised I got in early, but happy. Definitely feel like I will thrive at MIT. I'll be on this forum throughout today so feel free to shoot me (no pun intended!) some questions about how to get in.</p>
<p>Wow, ducktape, that is amazing. Congratulations! You got accepted, AND you got a wicked sweet story out of it too!</p>
<p>And congratulations to everyone who was accepted! I'll hopefully be in your position around this time next year!</p>
<p>@stupidkid - What do you mean? Who knows what?</p>
<p>EDIT: I think I understand now. You mean that benjones knows that I'm a SF?</p>
<p>Wow, go away for a choir concert and come back to 3 more pages of discussion.</p>
<p>To all those deferred, please check out the results threads from last year. There are a lot of kids that get deferred and then accepted. I understand that it royally sucks to have to wait until March (OK, granted, I don't to the extent you guys do), but really, it will all work out for the best. Yes, you ought to start on other apps to make sure that you still get into a great school (I mean, you're applying to MIT! You're awesome!), but don't think this is it. Delayed gratification, right? I'm totally cheering for you guys.</p>
<p>Deferred</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>]SAT: 2310 (Math 790, CR 730, W 800)
[</em>]SAT II: 800 Math II, 800 Chemistry, 760 US History
[<em>]ACT: 35 Composite, 12 Writing
[</em>]GPA: 4.67W, 3.95UW
[<em>]Rank: 1/1018
[</em>]Other Tests (AMC, AP, IB):
AP Chemistry 5, AP US History 5, AP Calculus BC 5, AP English Language 5, AP Spanish Language 4, AP European History 5, AP Statistics 5
[/ul]</p>
<p>Subjective[ul]
[<em>]Essays: I thought they were good as I consider myself a good writer (as seen in my writing scores)
[</em>]Teacher Recs: One was total flattery, the other I didn't read but that teacher and I are tight
[<em>]Counselor Rec: I'd assume good
[</em>]Supplementary Material: regretfully, none
[<em>]Hook(recruited athlete, legacy, Nobel Prize): n/a[/ul]
Personal[ul]
[</em>]Location: Midwest USA
[<em>]High School Type: Public
[</em>]Ethnicity: Asian (Chinese)
[<em>]Gender: M
[</em>]Applied for Financial Aid: No[/ul]</p>
<p>Other[ul]
[<em>]Extracurriculars:
- Track & Field
- Cross Country
- Intramural Basketball
- National Spanish Honors Society (Publicity Committee Chair)
- Model United Nations
- Asian Students? Association (Senior Leader)
- NVHS Math Team (Team Captain, Oralist)
- Star Raiders
- Junior State of America (Co-founder, Executive Officer)
- Scholastic Bowl
- Theatre
[</em>]Awards:
- Siemens-Westinghouse Competition Regional Semi-Finalist
- National Merit Scholarship Semi-Finalist
- President?s Education Award
- Indian Prairie Scholar
- Academic Achievement Award
- AP Scholar with Distinction
- All-Conference Oralist
- Division 1st Place Oralist Champion
- NSML Team Conference Champion
[li]Advice? Commiserations? Feel like bragging?: [/li]- Should have sent my Siemens-Westinghouse research paper?
- Maybe also should have done an interview (which I scheduled today).[/ul]</p>
<p>I've got to say, this was surprising and somewhat disappointing. :/ I thought the rank would help for sure, considering how ridiculously competitive a class of over 1000 is (our school has over 4250 people). But oh well, I guess I'll just submit my research paper and do the interview for RD.... :(</p>
<p>
I can answer this -- they are enlarging the freshman class from ~1000 to ~1100 over the next few years, as undergraduates are expected to be able to move into a formerly graduate dorm. (Jessie, that's right, isn't it? They're moving undergrads into Ashdown, rather than building?)</p>
<p>Since this is not a large increase, it is likely that the larger number of students admitted EA reflects MIT's opinion that yield will go down this year.</p>
<p>tintin,
DS did not submit his Siemens/Intel paper to MIT, though he did send it to other schools. He wrote about his research in the Optional Essay. There was one actual paragraph about the work itself. The rest was about his philosophy of research, his relationship with his mentor, how he ran into several dead ends before hitting on a solution, and how he did the work, complete with dog, snacks, and music, outside under a tree in the front yard. It was creative, humble, funny, and very real.</p>
<p>I don't know that the admissions office has time to read thousands of papers, but perhaps a brief essay (if you haven't written about it already) about your research might be appropriate, along with a mention of the SF award. I recall Matt saying on one of the blogs (or maybe on the app itself -- it all runs together now) that they preferred not to get a research paper, but wanted to hear about how you approached your work, what you got out of it, etc.</p>
<p>Good luck to all!</p>
<p>Why's the yield going down? Because of the Marilee Jones thing?</p>
<p>The yield is going down because Harvard and Princeton got rid of their early decision programs. I think MIT thinks that the people who applied EA to MIT might have had Harvard or Princeton as their top choice, but since EA isn't binding, applied to MIT. Thus, when they get into Harvard/Princeton come April, they will matriculate at those school.</p>
<p>Sorry this is a little late, but here goes. </p>
<p>Accepted</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>]SAT:2330 (800 CR, 770 M, 760 W)
[</em>]SAT II: Chemistry: 800, Math IIC: 770
[<em>]ACT: N/A
[</em>]GPA: weighted, 4.588 (out of 4.8)
[<em>]Rank: 1/361
[</em>]Other Tests (AMC, AP, IB): AP US History: 4, AP Chemistry: 5
[/ul]
Subjective[ul]
[<em>]Essays: Excellent essays. I think these are what got me in. I chose to write about the "Describe where you come from" prompt, and my English teacher said it was really cute. It also conveyed why I wanted to be an engineer.
[</em>]Teacher Recs: One I read, it was decent, above average. The other one, I didn't read, but my teacher said it was long and well written.
[<em>]Counselor Rec: Counselor barely talks to me. It was one of those generic template ones that all students get.<br>
[</em>]Supplementary Material: I wrote the "what have you created" essay about band. It was a creative essay, not the formal type. I mainly used it to convey my passion for music.
[<em>]Hook(recruited athlete, legacy, Nobel Prize): No hooks, I'm pretty normal.[/ul]
Personal[ul]
[</em>]Location: Suburbia, NJ
[<em>]High School Type: Public
[</em>]Ethnicity: Asian
[<em>]Gender: Female
[</em>]Applied for Financial Aid: Yes[/ul]
Other[ul]
[<em>]Extracurriculars: Marching Band, NJ Science League, Envirothon Club, Track, Ultimate Frisbee, Piano.
[</em>]Awards: State placement for Envirothon, two NJ Science League plaques, awards my marching band has won.
[*]Advice? Commiserations? Feel like bragging?: I'm just really really excited. Normal people DO get into MIT! Don't loose hope, everyone.[/ul]</p>
<p>[ size=+1][ color=blue][ b]Deferred[ /b][ /color][ /size]</p>
<p>[ b]Stats:[ /b][ list]
[ <em>]SAT: 2290 (800 Math, 760 Read, 730 Writ)
[ ]SAT II: 800 Math 2, 750 Physics, 770 Chinese, History...horrible.
[ *]ACT:Not taken
[ *]GPA:3.9</em> UW 4.3 W
[ *]Rank:21/553
[ *]Other Tests (AMC, AP, IB): AP Calc-5, AP Physics C- 4, AP US HIST- 4, AP Econ- 5, AP psychology- 4, IB econ- 6
[ /list]
[ b]Subjective[ /b][ list]
[ *]Essays:I thought they were okay.
[ *]Teacher Recs:Pretty good- I'm tight with both my teachers
[ *]Counselor Rec:We don't talk a lot...
[ *]Supplementary Material:Recommendation from a professor who employed me in his chemical engineering lab over the summer.
[ *]Hook(recruited athlete, legacy, Nobel Prize): none[ /list]
[ b]Personal[ /b][ list]
[ *]Location:West Coast USA
[ *]High School Type:Public
[ *]Ethnicity:Asian
[ *]GenderMale
[ *]Applied for Financial Aid: Y Y/N[ /list]
[ b]Other[ /b][ list]
[ *]Extracurriculars:Science Honor Society (president), Interact Community Service (Director of Activities), piano, Computer science and construction, guitar, website construction.
[ *]Awards:Not very many that I can remember. D:
[ *]Advice? Commiserations? Feel like bragging?:Arg. There's still March, but for some reason I feel like I've been rejected already...
Anyone know roughly how many people deferred from EA get in RD?[ /list]</p>
<p>Ducktape, that's an amazing story!! That would easily be the best phone call of my life :-p</p>