**OFFICIAL Mt SAC CC TRANSFER THREAD**

<p>(sorry if this isn’t allowed here ><)but I’m trying to sell a few of my textbooks if anyone is interested! </p>

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<li>Course: Ahis4
Book: Art History Portable Edition: Ancient Art 4th edition by Marilyn Stockstad & Michael W. Cothren
Book: Art History Portable Edition: Medieval Art 4th edition by Marilyn Stockstad & Michael W. Cothren</li>
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<p>These two are basically the 1st vol (the first half) of the Art History textbook. </p>

<p>Note: These are not the loose-leaf versions. </p>

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<li>Course: Ahis5
Book: Art History Vol 2 4th edition by Marilyn Stockstad & Michael W. Cothren</li>
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<p>This is the other half of the Art History textbook</p>

<ul>
<li>Course: Ahis9
Book: A History of Far Eastern Art 5th edition by Sherman E. Lee</li>
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<p>PM me if you’re interested! (: </p>

<p>Thank you</p>

<p>@ shabushabu9: listen to Dainese (: he really knows his stuff! </p>

<p>Even though I’m pretty much repeating everything he said, it’s only because I really want to emphasize & elaborate a bit on these points: </p>

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<li><p>take placement tests: don’t feel too bad if you end up in a lower class than expected n_n;; bumping up a few levels and even completing the read/math/english/chem courses don’t take too long if you work hard! You can probably go up at least 2~3 levels per year if you work hard :smiley: (ex: start at engl68 in the fall, take engl1ah in the spring OR if you’re lucky, take engl1a in the winter and then engl1c in the spring= ta da! you’re finished with english (: ) </p></li>
<li><p>realise that it may take 2+ years to transfer, esp with pre-med path: I think engineering takes a while too, depending on your placement of math when beginning. Also, don’t rush into a major just because you want to get out! I made this mistake my freshman year and although I’m not affected by it too much, still, the time and energy wasted going full-force into a study I forced myself to take for the sake of reaching that 2 year goal are losses that could have been easily avoided ): Because of this, for nearly a year, I didn’t stop to ask myself if this major was what I really wanted to do and whether I could see a bright future in it >__<;; Also, I neglected exploring my options (thankfully, I realised what I really wanted to pursue before it was too late). I believe Mt Sac is a really great place to explore your interests and options (: just don’t get too cozy and end up staying 5+ years alongside being undecided… but yes, as Dainese said, keep your mind open for options! </p></li>
<li><p>get into honors: YUP this is a definite must! First off, if you graduate from HS with a gpa below the 3.5 requirement in order to be part of the Honors Program at the start of your freshman year, not to worry! You get a fresh, clean slate your first semester here so take advantage of this by trying your best to earn at least a 3.5! Secondly, I cannot emphasize enough how awesome the Honors professors are (at least, from my experience, I’ve always had wonderful honors professors (: ). They’re incredibly dedicated and because of the small size of an honors class (around 20), students can get individual attention easily = a better learning experience I believe (: This is also really neat because usually the ratio between students and instructor is a pretty wide difference and you’d have to go to some private school to receive the kind of attention and help honor students get for a mere fraction of a private’s price. Thirdly, see Linda Diaz, the honors counselor. She is probably the most helpful and knowledgable counselor Mt Sac has and I’m not saying this for biased reasons; trust, everyone I know who has seen her at least once feels the same way too. </p></li>
<li><p>getting classes is a BUMMER ): Hopefully you are from a HS that qualifies to be part of the Connect 4 program (it depends on the location of your HS…) that allows freshman to have priority registration. If you can be part of this, GREAT. Take advantage of this; research which classes you’re interested in taking/ need to take, see counselors ahead of time (as in the summer after you graduate HS) to discuss your academic/transfer plans, heck, make back-up plans in case the classes you want are filled up!
Oooh and speaking of priority registration, if you’re an athlete or in choir, you get it automatically I think… and when I mean athlete I do not mean yoga or PE…
Don’t count on registration woes letting up even as a sophomore ): I’m in my last semester here and I still got waitlisted for humanities courses ): with a third day registration date… BEST of luck to you & those who need science/math classes more.
In addition, being persistant can really pay off! Even if you’re barely clinging on to the waitlist or if you couldn’t even get into your class of choice, I recommend that you still show up the first few days and talk to the professors :smiley: You’d be surprised by how many people do not show up = open spots! Sometimes it doesn’t work out but still, you won’t regret that you didn’t at least try. And yeah, it’s getting harder and harder to get classes so FIGHT HARD ): <em>aja aja!!</em> </p></li>
<li><p>DO take advantage of the resources mt sac has to offer!
If you’re looking for a full/part time job or internship, sign up for the Mountie Career source or go to the Career Center on the 2nd floor of the Student Services center. On-campus jobs are posted there as well.
The T-Marc on the 1st floor of the Math & Science building is where you can go for free math-tutoring services, calculator & textbook borrowing, and computer lab stuff (that is strictly for math or CS related work from what I know). I’m sure your math professors will relay this info to you when you’re actually there :smiley:
The Writing Center on the 1st floor of Bld 26B offers free tutoring services, computer labs, and a whole bunch of free writing resources & information.
Even though the library says “NO FOOD OR DRINKS”, you can do so secretly in one of their study rooms with friend(s) <em>kahaha</em>. But during finals week, there will be moments when you’d love to punch someone in the face just to have a precious cubicle to yourself.
There’s a massive tutoring center below the library and language lab that you can go to for probably all of your tutoring-needs!
The Language Lab is great too but I think it’s only for those who are actually taking a language course. They have a huge collection of foreign films your professors may recommend you watching for extra credit or something (:
If you’re an athlete, you’ll probably be referred to the WIN center that is way off in that desert of a parking lot at the back of the school. Here, there’s tutoring services + a computer lab as well, although I’ve heard from my friends who go there that it’s not the best place to study as everyone is pretty chatty over there. </p></li>
<li><p>If you’re stuck on which professor to take for a certain subject, use rate my professor (haha obviously…) :smiley: It’s been my bible for that purpose since I started at Mt Sac. And I’m sorry to say that the kind of professor you have matters quite a lot. One lousy professor may screw you over a subject that is not worth getting a C or below on (although getting Cs and below isn’t very good anyways…). I’ve heard way too many horror stories with scary professors & how they destoryed their victimsImean students academic lives or perfect gpas, etc… You shouldn’t trust everything RMP says but it’s better than having no reference at all. </p></li>
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<p>Oh… I wrote an entire essay D: well I hope anyone who reads this (including you shabushabu) finds at least a little help from it :smiley: even though you still have a couple of years to go before you even know which college you may be attending o__o;;;</p>

<p>oops I left off a few more things…</p>

<p>Talk to your professors, visit them during their office hours, basically, at least let them know you are an existing being with a name! Getting on the professor’s good side also comes with volunteered recommendation letters if you need any :smiley: but of course, using that reason to get to know them is shallow… ): If you really like a certain professor, try to keep in touch with them even after you’ve finished their class :smiley: </p>

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<li><p>If you’re stuck on which professor to take for a certain subject, use rate my professor (haha obviously…) :smiley: It’s been my bible for that purpose since I started at Mt Sac. And I’m sorry to say that the kind of professor you have matters quite a lot. One lousy professor may screw you over a subject that is not worth getting a C or below on (although getting Cs and below isn’t very good anyways…). I’ve heard way too many horror stories with scary professors & how they destoryed their victimsImean students academic lives or perfect gpas, etc… You shouldn’t trust everything RMP says but it’s better than having no reference at all. </p></li>
<li><p>DO check your mt sac email at least every few days if not once a day. There may be important messages from professors/counselors and schoolwide announcements that may pertain to you or your interests. Also, it is REALLY annoying having to show up to a canceled class just because you did not check the memo left by your professor in your portal inbox!</p></li>
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<p>whoa long post lol. good info! :smiley: thanks!</p>

<p>and i think its fine to sell books here, at least its fine with me. :)</p>

<p>ifmy school is part of the connecto4 program and allows students in the school to get priority registration. if i register to mount sac, is that still considered priority registraion? or am i still applying early?</p>

<p>i’m still confused as what i should do in chronological order after registering into mt sac. </p>

<p>the summer of 2011 i took a summer class at elac and they had me take a placement test. and i placed advanced in some of the subjects like math and intermediate in reading or writing. can i somehow transfer those scores to mt sac so i dont have to take the placement test?</p>

<p>also a mt sac rep. came to our school a few weeks ago( less than 3 weeks ago) to inform us about the summer bridge program. they had most people apply for it as there are only 350 spots. how long does it take to get a notification mail that tells us if we got in or not. if i get in i will be GUARANTEED a spot in all my classes for the duration i am at mt sac.</p>

<p>@vltord: Sorry, I’m a little confused by your first question but registration and applying are two different things :open_mouth: You would apply to Mt Sac first and then around the summer time, giving around two weeks or less before the start of the first registration date, you’d log into your Mt Sac portal (that I believe you can & must create during your application process… although my memory is really fuzzy on this one; you should ask someone who works at the school to be sure) where you’ll be able to see which registration date you’ve been assigned. You can tell whether you’ve been granted priority registration by Connect 4 if you see that you got a pretty early date; there’s nothing that will specifically say that you have “freshman priority registration”.
However, if your question is asking whether you may apply to mt sac right now & still receive priority registration, I don’t have an answer for that so you should call admissions to ask (: Although I’m sure you’ll receive Connect 4’s priority registration even if you apply in April (which is when I applied) so there’s not really a need to rush. </p>

<p>Ooh you’re going to do the summer bridge program? Good luck! Unfortunately, I also don’t know very much about this Bridge program other than it being pretty rigorous >__<;; ah but I’m not trying to discourage you from going for it! Contact admissions or the bridge program’s extention & hopefully someone else on here has an answer to that for you :smiley: The same goes for the transferring of test scores… I don’t want to give you false information D: </p>

<p>Well after you apply (if that’s what you meant instead of “registering”) to Mt Sac, you should receive and admissions letter in the mail pretty close to the date you applied. This letter will give you a password & an assigned username for you to make a Mt Sac portal account (aahh I think it’s all coming back to me now…). With you portal account, you can make placement test appointments (saying if your earlier tests couldn’t be transferred). Also, placement tests results are usually shown either immedietaly after you finish or at least around a day after. Now, you’ll know which courses you are eligible to take. In addition, I highly recommend that while you are at the student center for your placement tests, either before or after it, take the time to visit the transfer center upstairs to pick up IGETC or Mt Sac AA degree requirement sheets. These are the GE guides for whatever path you intend to take while at Mt Sac. If you’d like to transfer to a UC or Cal State, refer to the IGETC. Also, pick up one of the registration booklets available around the center , no matter if it’s for spring 2012 because this will give you an idea of what classes are available and you know, just a whole bunch of info (: I think the IGETC is also included in there but it would be nice to just have a seperate sheet to refer to & keep :D. And see if you can schedule an appointment with a counselor as well if you’d like. Then, there is this long waiting period between graduating HS and finding out your fall registration date. Keep checking your Mt Sac portal for updates and announcements as well :smiley:
This is a lot of information to take in all at once but yes, definitely pick up a registration book or go online here [Welcome</a> to Mt. San Antonio College](<a href=“http://www.mtsac.edu/schedule/credit/spring/]Welcome”>http://www.mtsac.edu/schedule/credit/spring/) for a PDF version of it— there are the official registration & “what to do after” steps here.</p>

<p>@vtlord - if your school has the connect 4 program then that means you can do the program. but it doesnt mean that u would get any priority because you came from the school. </p>

<p>so after being accepted into mtsac you will do the following (not in any order unless stated otherwise, do them all)</p>

<ol>
<li>go to the placement test center and grab the study sheets, study hard, once you are ready take the placement tests.</li>
<li>go see a counselor for ROTC etc.</li>
<li>go to the transfer center and talk to them about the same ROTC airforce etc</li>
<li>grab a spring 2012 booklet</li>
<li>take care of the little things, IE getting your ID, parking permit, etc.</li>
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<p>lastly PAY YOUR FINES FOR CLASSES OTHERWISE U WILL BE DROPPED!!!</p>

<p>you can transfer placement test scores but idk the process…ask the counselor or placement test center
[Welcome</a> to Mt. San Antonio College](<a href=“http://www.mtsac.edu/students/mandatory.html]Welcome”>http://www.mtsac.edu/students/mandatory.html)
in the section “exemptions from assessment” </p>

<p>and i dont know much about the bridge program; however, it will not guarantee u a spot in classes throughout ur duration at mtsac only a spot in the bridge classes.</p>

<p>@dainese what kind of classes did u take at mount sac? any EC’s? would you say usc is more difficult to get accepted than a uc? (lets say davis, san diego, santa barbra, possibly LA). i most likely want to take the engineering path solely because my math skills are better than my reading and writing skills.</p>

<p>the classes i took at mtsac were your standard IGETC courses. it wasnt until i realized i really wantd to go to USC that i switched over to their curriculum. luckily i didnt aste anytime and all my classes were transferable. </p>

<p>getting into any school (not just USC/UCs) will depend on a few things

  1. the school’s budget
  2. your story
  3. your competition</p>

<p>so it may be harder to get into some schools not because they are better, but because budgets won allow them to take that many students so they only take the best.
your background also matters…and the students around you also applying will determine where the “acceptance” standard will be.</p>

<p>anything IVY league…you will have to do incredibly well and have one hell of a story.
I believe USC, UCB, UCLA wil be your hardest to get into
other UCs will also be effected by budget cuts, but they will also see much more applicants than UCB/UCLA.
any other schools like calstates will depend on budget. and last spring my cousin got into calstate fullerton with a 3.5 GPA, history major. so it does take a strong GPA even for calstates now. </p>

<p>the positive thing about USC is that because of its high cost…they can always accept a consistent amount of students in. and there are no budget cuts that will cut classes so i dont have to fight for my classes. ive only had to fight for classes once, which was my first semester…and that was because of my own fault.</p>

<p>for engineering, you can expect a lot of competition at almost any school.
the best of course, will also expect the best. USC, CPP, UCLA, UCB. a few in mind.</p>

<p>what gpa did u have senior year?
what were ur ECs other than being apart of honors society</p>

<p>my senior year of hs i had a 2.07
coming out of mtsac i had a 3.89</p>

<p>other ECs i was apart of…

  • honors ambassadors VP/ICC rep
  • conducted research for the human trafficking conference
  • and…uhh nothing else really lol</p>

<p>would you say psychology is more difficult than aerospace engineering? or vice versa.</p>

<p>@Vltord</p>

<p>I don’t think you can really compare those two majors, they’re on complete opposite sides of the spectrum. A field of study’s difficulty is relative to the student who is taking the classes anyway. Considering you said you are better at math than you are at reading and writing, you might find going into psychology quite tough since a lot of what you’ll encounter while taking those classes will involve the latter two. This is not to say that going into aerospace engineering would be any less tough, however. I am currently taking the classes that you’ll be taking if you choose to follow the engineering route and they are definitely not easy. Be prepared to spend many sleepless nights doing your homework, writing lab reports, and reading ahead on the material that will be covered in class the following week. It is definitely not for the faint of heart. </p>

<p>You should probably take a variety of classes when you start coming here, just to make sure that you are going into the field that most suits you. I first came into Mt. SAC wanting to be a psychology major but decided to switch over to the math and physics curriculum after taking a few classes. You might find yourself wanting to do something similar. And even if you don’t, at least you’ll know that the path you’re following is the right one for you.</p>

<p>what lachesi stated is correct.</p>

<p>but if u must…another way to look at it is in terms of pay. a BA in psych is one of the lowest paid majors coming out of college while a BA in engineering is one of the highest paid. psych requires much more than a BA to get any sort of decent salary, basically you need a PHD. so it can be harder since you have to commit nearly 10 years to the subject, while an engineer can do 4 years and start making money.</p>

<p>@lachesis4687</p>

<p>what kind of engineering are you studying?</p>

<p>also im sure there will be study groups int he honors program that will ease the intensity of the work load.</p>

<p>also im sure there will be study groups int he honors program that will ease the intensity of the work load.</p>

<p>“study groups in the honors program”
haha, fresh blood indeed. This is college and the work load will be yours and primarily yours alone.</p>

<p>Lmao, all those people in the honors center just talk crap all day everytime I’m in there to see Linda.</p>

<p>@Vltord</p>

<p>I wanted to go into aerospace engineering when I first moved over to the science curriculum, but eventually realized I was more interested in the theory behind the subjects that are used throughout engineering rather than the practical implications of them. I am now trying to decide between going into pure mathematics or physics. The good thing is that all three majors require the same core classes, so I’ve managed to stay on track regardless of the fact that I’m still not sure as to what I want to study.</p>

<p>JetLogic is right by the way. It will be your responsibility to manage your time and efforts in a manner that will allow you to do everything you have to do, and there is no one there to help you in that respect. The school does offer other types of help for those taking these classes though, such as the T-MARC which is a facility with tutors that are there to help you with your math work and the various Supplemental Instructors (SI’s) that the school hires to hold tutoring sessions for various classes.
The only thing is that less and less help is offered to those that move onto higher level classes such as those in the Physics 4 series (a series of 3 calculus based physics courses) simply because there are so few people that have taken and flourished in those classes themselves, at which point all you can really do is ask your instructors for help during their office hours.</p>

<p>Don’t worry though, it’s not so bad, especially if you have some friends to accompany you on your sleepless nights. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed myself so far.</p>