Official RD Thread

<p>Accepted to both Emory and Oxford! :)</p>

<p>@jocjarmom – have been reading (and enjoying) your posts over the past few months, and was sorry to read about your daughter being waitlisted.</p>

<p>I do think the answer to your daughter’s question “Why should I go to a school that waitlisted me”" is pretty easy: Because it’s the best school/fit for you. . . Let me share an anecdote. Several days into my first year of medical school it was discovered that one of the students simply failed to show up. The school started calling kids on the waiting list, and one of them (already enrolled elsewhere) chose to make the switch. Over the four years, and for a career afterwards he was thrilled with his decision, and would not have had it any other way. He was a guy who was sort of ego-less (rare in medicine), so that helped.</p>

<p>I understand the need for resolution and moving on, the personal hurt of not being admitted, and also the long odds of getting in from the waitlist. But if Emory was your daughter’s first choice, it probably was so for good reasons. ?Maybe write one letter to admissions reiterating her interests and her desirability, and then simply forget about it for now. If she gets in, then she can/should make a decision as to the best place to go. No one at Emory will ever know she came in off the waitlist, and the money lost on the other school’s deposit will be trivial compared to the overall cost of four years anywhere.</p>

<p>And so much for unsolicited advice. Best of luck wherever she ends up.</p>

<p>@AsleepAttheWheel: Who cares if anyone knows? A huge chunk of people at non-Ivy top 20 waitlists are actually in or near the 75% of the incoming class of admitted and enrolled students. At a selective school, it’s hardly embarrassing to be waitlisted. Again, a lot of this is yield protection.</p>

<p>I was sure she was going to get in. </p>

<p>If yesterday taught me anything, it’s that the admissions process is even more unpredictable than I thought. After freshman year or so, people stop judging based off of whether you got in off the waitlist, off ED, from Oxford, off legacy, because you were an URM, or whatever. (Usually takes a year for us to grow up).</p>

<p>But, I agree with the last couple posts. Don’t burn this bridge for no reason.<br>
Your college experience has nothing to do with the three or so people who made the decision to waitlist you.
If you get in off of it, take advantage of it. </p>

<p>This is not like dating… where your boyfriend is keeping you on the hook just in case someone else doesn’t work out and then you decide to be with him when he finally decides he wants you. </p>

<p>Does legacy have priority on the waitlist?</p>

<p>Accepted to Emory with a surprisingly good FA package! Never thought there was a chance in the world I would be able to afford Emory, but now it’s a real possibility.</p>

<p>Accepted at Oxford and Waitlisted at emory, but as Im an international student, all I could get is a not so good financial aid award so… I don’t think it would be possible for me to attend.</p>

<p>@jocjarmom I’m right there with you. I was wait listed as well and as I read through the FAQ’s, it’s a bit ridiculous. Basically we MIGHT go through the admissions process again, and the acceptance rate is lower than normal. I’m being a bit negative because I’m upset about the whole thing. Don’t get me wrong, I totally understand the decision, but it makes choosing a college even harder than usual because even though it may be my first choice, I’m not even near certain I’m going to get in. If they didn’t accept me in the first place, then obviously I am not right for Emory. Sorry, I’m just a bit aggravated. </p>

<p>How come I didn’t even get a wait list? I feel pretty disappointed with Emory’s admission process. First I applied ED2 and turned in all the forms on time(postmarked DEC 18th.) I waited until the ED notification date only to find out that there was a form missing, so I received no decision. I checked with the counseling office at my school and the lady in charge showed me proof that my ED form was mailed with everything else. I called Oxford and was told that my ED for was just found but I still would not be considered an ED applicant .I sent Oxford 2 emails and it’s been 3 weeks since I last got a reply. Yesterday I log into OPUS to find out I was flat out rejected. I know that it was just an application, but it seems hardly fair for something like this to happen…</p>

<p>My GPA was on the low end but I did have medium SAT score. </p>

<p>@lilbbased: Unfortunately both your GPA and SAT killed you. Both were well in the bottom quartile. You need to have had some great essays to overcome that to at least get a waitlist. And yes, you did seem to get screwed. It is almost tempting to at least contest the Oxford decision.</p>

<p>@aliciaanannali: Unfortunately, this is all a game. If you were in the middle 50 or even close to the 75% of last years freshman class (admits or enrollees) and were waitlisted, it may not be that they don’t want you enough so much as they are scared to admit too many of you. Also, even if it wasn’t the case, it doesn’t help that they had so many more scholar applicants to decide among (that is, the left over ones who did not get a finalist invite). The added amount of scholars applicants (many of whom had ridiculous stats and acceptances from top Ivies/non-Ivies) makes things a lot more unpredictable this year. Kind of sucks, but Emory’s admissions scheme is moving in this direction and they did not have to increase the overall amount of applicants to do it. </p>

<p>Where can I find my financial aid package?</p>

<p>Hey everyone can we use this format?</p>

<p>Don’t forget to remove the spaces!</p>

<p>[ color=green][ b]Decision: Accepted by (insert school)[/color]
[ color=orange][ b]Decision: Deferred by (insert school)
[/color]
[ color=red][ b]Decision: Rejected by (insert school)**[/color]</p>

<p>[ b]Objective:**
[ *] SAT I (breakdown):
[ *] ACT:
[ *] SAT II:
[ *] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0):
[ *] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable):
[ *] AP (place score in parenthesis):
[ *] IB (place score in parenthesis):
[ ] Senior Year Course Load:
[ ] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.):
[ /list][ b]Subjective:

[ *] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis):
[ *] Job/Work Experience:
[ *] Volunteer/Community service:
[ *] Summer Activities:
[ *] Essays:
[ *] Teacher Recommendation:
[ *] Counselor Rec:
[ ] Additional Rec:
[ ] Interview:
[ /list][ b]Other
</p>

<ul>
<li><p>[ *] State (if domestic applicant):
[ *] Country (if international applicant):
[ *] School Type:
[ *] Ethnicity:
[ *] Gender:
[ ]Income Bracket:
[ ] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.):
[ /list][ b]Reflection
</p></li>
<li><p>[ *] Strengths:
[ *] Weaknesses:
[ ] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/rejected:
[ ] Where else were you accepted/deferred/rejected:
[ /list][ b]General Comments:
</p></li>
</ul>

<p>@Asleepatthewheel, @Aluminum_Boat, @collegefortwins and @alicianall… thanks for your kind words. I understand what you’re all saying, but in the weeks leading up to March 27, my daughter’s excitement for Emory seemed to dwindle. Perhaps it was a defensive mechanism, to protect herself in case she didn’t get in. But maybe she just really started thinking it wasn’t right. I think if it were really and truly her dream school (which is certainly seemed to be when we toured the school in February), then she would be willing to sit and wait it out on Waitlist. But in some ways, I think I was more upset on Thursday night than she was, and that tells me something too.</p>

<p>Her comments are less about the stigma of Wait List, and more about the whole “if I couldn’t be accepted outright, then perhaps that’s a sign.” We are now focusing on her other remaining choices (UGA and Tulane), and we’re taking her to Tulane next weekend for the Top Scholars Weekend (she received a $25K per year scholarship and a spot in their Honors Program back in October). I think both could be fantastic places for her. We’re just trying to move forward and be positive.</p>

<p>Somebody on the Tulane board said they really don’t understand the decision… it’s like Emory is saying, “we’ve got enough money, so screw the alums.” In all honesty, my husband said, “Ummmm, don’t think we’re leaving Emory any money in our will after this!” (Oh oops, I’m supposed to be positive. It still stings just a little.) </p>

<p>I appreciate all the support and also from @bernie12… and I truly congratulate everybody who got in. Both my husband and I loved our time at Emory… we just wish our daughter was given the opportunity to carry on the tradition.</p>

<p>I know decisions can be tough, believe me I went through the entire process a year ago… please do not take the decision as a reflection of yourself or your intelligence. Heck do not even take it as a judgement of if Emory was right for you. Far more well qualified applicants apply to Emory each year then the admission office could possibly admit. I had several friends who fell into what I called the “question pit” about college admission, and it has made their transition to college (UGA and W&M) much more painful then needed (they constantly were questioning why they were at their respective schools and if it was right for them. Until one day, it just clicked and each of them became enthralled with their current schools.)</p>

<p>I really want to highlight that no one outside of the admission department can speak to current admission practices, and I am not one of them. For that reason I cannot comment on why or how you were wait listed/rejected. I will give each of you the same advice I gave to my friend: take a weekend with your friends/family and enjoy life. Then come back not worrying how to “game the system”, but just open minded looking at your options. Each of you will end up at a school which you will make your own, and if you feel that Emory is still by far and beyond the right place for you after a year wherever you end up there is always the option of transferring. </p>

<p>I wish you all the absolute best luck in the college selection process and in your future! I love this quote by Steve Jobs and I think its very telling in this situation (I wrote my college application essay on it): </p>

<p>“You can’t connect the dots looking forward; you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something – your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. Because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart even when it leads you off the well worn path; and that will make all the difference” -Steve </p>

<p>Again best wishes!</p>

<p>@jocjarmom I got waitlisted too and honestly, I feel almost the same way your daughter feels. Emory was my first choice, but receiving that waitlist letter really changed everything because my parents were so sure I would get in. I feel a little bitter; It just feels like a complete rejection to me.</p>

<p>I’m not so sure about accepting my position either, but I probably will. She might change her mind in a week or two about accepting her position on the waitlist. I’m sure if she tells her counselor to get in touch with Emory admissions that she will have a greater chance of getting off the waitlist. Congrats on her acceptances to UGA and Tulane though!!! :slight_smile: </p>

<p>how do you check financial aid?</p>

<p>@SummerAus we’re supposed to check it through OPUS. There is a link that says Emory Financial Aid or something like that. My friend got his financial aid package but I didn’t get mine yet, along with some other friends. I’m kinda worried…</p>

<p>It seems like very few people or even no people have done the official result post with all their info, but I know that I really like seeing people’s stats in this format, so I’m going to go ahead and post everything…</p>

<p>Decision: Accepted by (Emory University)
With $15,000/year Liberal Arts Scholarship</p>

<p>Objective:
[<em>] SAT I (breakdown):2280 (Superscore): 800 CR, 740 M, 740 W
[</em>] ACT: didn’t take
[<em>] SAT II: 790 Literature, 750 US History
[</em>] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): Ours is out of 100, mine is 96.1
[<em>] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 2/295
[</em>] AP (place score in parenthesis): 5 English Language, 4 US History
[<em>] Senior Year Course Load: AP English lit, AP Gov, AP Bio, AP Art, H Calculus, H Orchestra
[</em>] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): Some local ones, dunno</p>

<p>[/list]Subjective:
[<em>] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Varsity Swimming 9-12 (Captain, States Team, All-Academic, All-CIAC team), Boys’ Swimming Manager 12, Literary Magazine 10-12 (Editor, writer), Newspaper 9-11, Water polo club 12, National Honor Society, National Latin Honor Society
[</em>] Job/Work Experience: Lifeguard Full-time Summer 2013, Lifeguard Part-time Winter 2013-14
[<em>] Volunteer/Community service: Key Club 10-12, Sunday school teacher, camp counselor, online “documentation volunteer” 11-12
[</em>] Essays: I think pretty good, I’m a pretty strong writer and all of my English teachers helped and liked them
[<em>] Teacher Recommendation: Strong, both teachers like me and know me really well, and are good writers
[</em>] Counselor Rec: I don’t know, but I’m guessing iffy, he’s kind of stupid</p>

<p>[/list]Other

  • [<em>] State (if domestic applicant):Connecticut
    [</em>] School Type: Public
    [<em>] Ethnicity: White
    [</em>] Gender: Female
    [<em>]Income Bracket: $80,000
    [</em>] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): nah
    [/list][ b]Reflection**</p>

<ul>
<li>[<em>] Strengths: Extracurriculars/Volunteer/Work, Essays, Standardized tests
[</em>] Weaknesses: Counselor rec, past course load
[<em>] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/rejected: I think I was pretty well into acceptance ranges, plus I’m not from the immediate area
[</em>] Where else were you accepted/deferred/rejected: Accepted: UConn (Full tuition scholarship, Honors), SUNY Geneseo ($5000 scholarship, maaaybe honors and another $2000) Rejected: Cornell, Brown, Princeton, Yale (haha)
[/list]General Comments: I really want to go to Emory but I am waiting to hear about financial aid because I only recently submitted IDOC and so part of my application is considered incomplete. Hopefully it’s enough to make flying down seem reasonable over Genseo or UConn !! </li>
</ul>

<p>@megan702 Out of curiosity, what are your other choices? I’m sorry for your wait listing too. And it’s nice to know somebody else feels the same way that she does.</p>

<p>BTW, if it’s any consolation to you, my daughter’s prom date was also wait listed at Emory. And he had a 35 ACT score and was on the BBYO International Board. He’s now choosing between UVA, Vandy and WashU. But Emory wait listed him. So go figure… there is no rhyme or reason to these decisions, honestly!</p>

<p>@jocjarmom My other choices are CMU Tepper, GA Tech, or USC-Columbia! I’m still waiting on Georgetown, but I’m definitely going to CMU if I don’t get in there. There really isn’t, the number of applications increasing every year makes it so much harder on the students…</p>

<p>Decision: Accepted (Emory and Oxford)
Objective:
[<em>] SAT I (Superscore):1860 (Breakdown): 630 CR, 600 M, 630 W
[</em>] ACT: 23(didn’t send)
[<em>] SAT II: Didn’t take
[</em>] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.88uw/4.1W
[<em>] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 45/417
[</em>] AP (place score in parenthesis): AP Lang, AP Physics B, APUSH, AP GOV, AP Econ, AP Phycology, AP Bio.
[<em>] Senior Year Course Load: Forensics, AP GOV/Econ, AP Phycology, Hon British LIT., AP Bio, Trig
[</em>] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): none, but several school awards
[/list]Subjective:
[<em>] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Varsity Tennis 9-12 (Captain, States Team),
National Honor Society, Beta Club, NSHSS, Student Government (class representative), Straight-Gay Alliance member(straight lol), Youth group (leader)
[</em>] Job/Work Experience: None
[<em>] Volunteer/Community service:Tutor at community juvenile correction center, Tutor at Goodwill GED program, Reading to special-needs teens
[</em>] Essays: Strong, They had to be to make up for other parts of my app
[<em>] Teacher Recommendation: Strong, both teachers like me and know me really well, and are good writers
[</em>] Counselor Rec: My counselor loves me, I just know it
[/list]Other

  • [<em>] State (if domestic applicant): Georgia
    [</em>] School Type: Public
    [<em>] Ethnicity: Black
    [</em>] Gender: Male
    [<em>]Income Bracket: $70,000
    [</em>] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): URM
    [/list][ b]Reflection**</p>

<ul>
<li>[<em>] Strengths: Extracurriculars/Volunteer/Work, Essays, Course load
[</em>] Weaknesses: Standardized tests
[<em>] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/rejected: I visited and the adcom seemed to really like me I tried to be bold and humorous with the other visitors, My essays were really good
[</em>] Where else were you accepted/deferred/rejected: Accepted: UGA( Zell Miller Scholarship) Rejected: Vanderbilt, UNC: Chapel Hill, Georgia Tech( I don’t know why)
[/list]General Comments: I am so excited and grateful. I really want to go because I think it is a great fit for me but I need a good fin aid package. However, I am a fan of the holistic process. UGA is still a great school but I don’t think I will fit in there. I pray it works out.</li>
</ul>