<p>Simply put, PRESENT PERFECT TENSE IN NO WAY MEANS THAT THE ACTION HAS FINISHED.</p>
<p>Present perfect tense describes an action that happened at an indefinite time in the past or that began in the past and continues in the present.</p>
<p>"Women have voted in presidential elections since 1921. "</p>
<p>I will try to better organize and refine my argument.</p>
<p>1.) The present perfect tense is used in cases in which the verb either (a) has a specified duration or (b) describes a past action with a result in the present. </p>
<p>2.) Your example sentence about the patient satisfies both of these criteria and is therefore correct.</p>
<p>3.) Your example of living somewhere for two years, although using the present perfect progressive, fulfills the first of these criteria and is therefore correct.</p>
<p>4.) In the case of the sentence from the question posed by the OP, neither of the criteria is satisfied and the sentence, when written in the present perfect tense, is incorrect.</p>
<p>So would you agree with the fact that PRESENT PERFECT TENSE IN NO WAY MEANS THAT THE ACTION HAS FINISHED, like you have claimed it was?</p>
<p>I understand that you know why the choice is the problem is incorrect, but your reasoning is not correct.</p>
<p>I do not agree. In many cases, the present perfect (as I stated in criteria (b)) requires that an action be completed in the past in addition to its present implication.</p>
<p>I see that you use the phrase, “in many cases.”</p>
<p>“(E) is wrong because the present perfect tense (which is what “has been” is) means that the action is finished.”</p>
<p>You failed to mention that in your original post. Right? In your reply, it seems to me as if you meant ALWAYS. Am i wrong?</p>
<p>I stated one of the relevant criteria because the other didn’t apply. Perahaps I should have, with forsight of the fact that someone would attempt to mince my every word in order to make me seem incorrect, coupled that idea with the other criteria initially. </p>
<p>However, I have yet to understand what your point has been throughout this argument. I still believe that my conclusion and my logic supporting it, which I have now clarified, are correct. It seems as if you are trying to contend that (E) is an acceptable answer, or perhaps I am misinterpreting your point. What exactly are you trying to communicate?</p>
<p>Upon re-reading, however, I acknowledge that crazybandit’s point was mostly in line with what I consider to be the correct use of the present perfect tense. I misinterpreted him earlier.</p>
<p>Wow. I am not saying E is correct. But I am saying that your reasoning behind why E should be incorrect, is wrong. When you claimed that present perfect tense means that the action is finished, people might get the wrong idea. That is NOT what present perfect tense means. That is what PAST TENSE MEANS.</p>
<p>I hope that sat1prep is now able to understand that all of his or her examples contained a completed action (as well as an ongoing one) and a timeframe. I further hope that he or she can distinguish this with the situation presented by the OP and, as a consequence, understand why (E) is not the answer.</p>
<p>@ sat1prep’s post #29,</p>
<p>If a timeframe is not associated with the action, the present perfect tense does indeed require a completed action in addition to one that is ongoing in some sense. Perhaps I did mistakenly imply that the present perfect absolutely means that the action has completely ended by not qualified my ideas more wholly near the beginning of this thread.</p>
<p>However, you have yet to acknowledge what I consider to be the fact that your examples were correct not only because a timeframe was included but because the actions in your sentences had completed aspects.</p>
<p>@ sat1prep’s post#31,</p>
<p>Contrary to what you claim, three of the four total examples you have in this thread have actions with completed aspects. The only one that did not is correct because a timeframe is specified.</p>
<p>1.) “She has been going to the doctor since she was a baby.”</p>
<p>The patient has completed the action of going to the doctor and continues to go.</p>
<p>2.) “Anna has seen that movie already.”</p>
<p>Anna saw the movie.</p>
<p>3.) Women have voted in presidential elections since 1921.</p>
<p>Women voted and continue to do so.</p>
<p>4.)I have been living here for two years.</p>
<p>A timeframe is specified.</p>
<p>So what if a time frame is specified. Your claim is still wrong. You never said a timeframe had to be mentioned, you just flat out said it had to be finished. You actually, disputed crazybandits reasoning over the timeframe.</p>
<p>A present prefect tense indicates an action that is still on going.
In the original sentence, the action is described to still continue.
So I thought “has been” would fit to the sentence as well as “is.”
I know why “is” fits the sentence, but I was not sure why “has been” cannot be the answer.
Silverturtle’s logic is flawed, but I do not find sat1prep’s explanation comprehensive enough.
Can anyone help me out here?</p>
<p>You are correct, but in that scenario a timeframe (as crazy bandit initally mentioned) should be mentioned when using Present perfect tense (progressive.)</p>
<p>Dont listen to silverturtles bs.</p>
<p>Is the explanation, that I have to use “is” instead of “has been” because the time frame is not specified, correct?</p>
<p>From sat1prep’s post #37,</p>
<p>“You never said a timeframe had to be mentioned, you just flat out said it had to be finished.”</p>
<p>This is false. I layed out the two criteria you have mentioned here, and I stated that either one had to be fulfilled.</p>
<p>That is correct - had it said oldest trains since (1856), has been would have worked. Refer to crazybandits reasoning - i think it is the clearest explanation.</p>
<p>@ howon92,</p>
<p>I will repost my explanation, which I consider to be comprehensive and correct. </p>
<p>1.) The present perfect tense is used in cases in which the verb either (a) has a specified duration or (b) describes a past action with a result in the present. </p>
<p>2.) Your example sentence about the patient satisfies both of these criteria and is therefore correct.</p>
<p>3.) Your example of living somewhere for two years, although using the present perfect progressive, fulfills the first of these criteria and is therefore correct.</p>
<p>4.) In the case of the sentence from the question posed by the OP, neither of the criteria is satisfied and the sentence, when written in the present perfect tense, is incorrect.</p>
<p>I regret that sat1prep’s actions have led to this thread’s devolving into what seems a petty argument. I hope that you find my above post helpful. I will no longer be contributing to this thread.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>I appreciate your help, both sat1prep and silverturtle.
However, I think your discussion in this thread is ridiculously meaningless, filled with rather insults and condescending than leading clear explanations.</p>
<p>Have a nice day.</p>