<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] Fee Waiver Used?:no
[</em>] SAT I (by section):2340: 800 Reading, 800 Writing, 740 Math
[<em>] SAT IIs:740 Math IIC, 750 U.S. History, 740 M.H.
[</em>] ACT:
[<em>] APs:5s on U.S. and Euro History, Eng. Lit., and Art History
[</em>] IBs:
[<em>] GPA, Weighted and Unweighted:Weighted- 4.38, Unweighted- 4.0
[</em>] Rank: Top 10%
[<em>] Senior Yr Courseload:Three AP classes, several electives, pretty packed
[</em>] Number of Apps from Your School:4
[<em>] Other stats:National Merit Scholarship Commended Student, AP Scholar with Honor, took a class at Stanford High School Summer College
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[</em>] ECs listed on app: Dance, piano, Student Council, Drama, leader of several clubs
[<em>] Job/Work Experience:Internships for past two summers, volunteering summer before sophomore year
[</em>] Essays (subject and responses):EC essay about music, Intellectual essay about econ, kind of quirky roommate essay, and really odd, risky personal essay for the picture question
[<em>] Teacher Recs:Really close to both teachers, so hopefully really good
[</em>] Counselor Rec:My counselor/ English teacher/ drama coach is absolutely incredible, so hopefully really good
[<em>] Interview (feel and general location):n/a
[</em>] Hook (if any): Prob the picture essay. It took me so many hours to write, and so much frustration, and it was pretty damn risky
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country:CA
[</em>] School Type, Average Stats of School (if available):private
[<em>] Ethnicity:caucasian
[</em>] Income Bracket:
[<em>] Gender:Female
[</em>] Hooks:
[<em>] Strengths/Weaknesses:Weaknesses would have to be that I haven't done anything out of the ordinary (i.e. discovered the cure for some disease, organized a charity), but none of that matters now!
[</em>] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied:I have no idea, but I sure am happy...
[/ul] Other Factors: General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc:I am so thrilled! I've wanted this for a LONG time...</p>
<p>Stats:
Fee Waiver Used?: No
SAT I (by section): 2160 (800 M 700 V 660 W)
SAT IIs: MathII:800 Phys: 740 Chem: 800
ACT:
APs: Chemistry, Macroeconomics, Physics B, Calculus AB, English Lang
IBs:
GPA, Weighted and Unweighted: UW 4.0
Rank: 2/50ish (really competitive school though)
Senior Yr Courseload: Very Hard
Number of Apps from Your School: 3
Subjective:
ECs listed on app: Student Government<br>
Job/Work Experience:
Essays (subject and responses): good
Teacher Recs: Absolutely brilliant
Counselor Rec: Perfect
Interview (feel and general location):
Hook (if any): I have almost all A+ on my subjects
Location/Person:
State or Country: UAE
School Type, Average Stats of School (if available): Very difficult private school
Gender: Male
Why I got in: I have absolutely no idea</p>
<p>Other Factors:
General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc: Im really happy that I got in wohoo!!! :)</p>
<p>"celebrities 95%, top recruited athletes 90%, regular recruited athletes 70%, minorities 50%, legacy 44%, early decision 40%, major contributors 35%, regular decision 8%. Standard-issue white students (particularly male students) from suburbia stood little chance of being admitted to a top college, regardless of how successful their academic record was; those standard-issue applicants competed for the few remaining seats (often 7,000 to 12,000 applicants competing for 50 open seats!)."</p>
<p>BOO HOO...i have to be above the standard-issue applicant to get into a really competitive college. In case you haven't noticed...most of the people who have gotten in have done something that sets them above the standard issue applicant...you should stand out in some unique way (whether thats personality/EC/Acedemic honors etc). Stanford and these other schools are not looking for "standard-issue" but rather someone who is going to contribute something to their community that is unique and that other standard-issue applicants can't. Also, these stats are a little misleading (if even true). The percentage of minorities, legacies, celebraties, major contributers is still pretty low and leaves PLENTY of seats to be filled with white males. Early decistion does not affect ur son's chances because if they didn't get in regular, there is no way in hell they are getting in early. Frankly, i think you are just being bitter and undermining the work of students who did work really hard and got in. I am not saying that ur sons didn't work hard, but obviously Stanford and other schools saw something in the other white applicants that constitute usually more than 50% at these schools (way more than the meager 50 seats you mentioned (i mean how many celebities do you think apply!)) that they felt could contribute more to the community than what your sons could</p>
<p>sorry for the long message...i just hate it when people use urm/legacies/athletes to list as the reason why they didn't get in. In the another book written about college admissions by a princeton alum (i can e-mail the name and author to you later), the difference is calculated to be .5%</p>
<p>Dear Mr. Oceanview,
(lol im such a dork) Im sure your kid is superb but not being accepted into Stanford isnt the end of the world (I hope). Yup I completely agree life isnt fair, so is it fair for us to expect any aspect of this crazy thing called life to be? Different days, different moods, different lunches! Anything could have caused one student to get in over another. You can't forget human objectivity as well, I may see an A* student who is the captain of the rugby team as a completely vapid rat but another person may see him as the king of the world. Bottomline, it just wasnt meant to be and not to sound like a "free love-all is groovy chick" (which I can be on certain days) if your child is so talented he/she probably has bigger things awaiting him/her in the future. So I know you didnt mean to come off as bitter but you sorta did with the riddling off of all the stats. (Stats are evil :( they deduce something that is so much more into nothing more than... numbers.)
Peace out and Rock on!
Una chica sincera</p>
<p>that's totally true - my mom did a study at a selective college admissions office where they were given five apps and were told to accept 2, waitlist 1, and reject 2. and people passionately pushed for....completely different people. and in the end it turned out that they were real apps and that none of them got in. so the process is just pretty arbitrary...it's hard to say why someone would get accepted or rejected.</p>
<p>Techy101, Zelda55 - you guys are complete ******. Just because you got in you automatically assume that admissions are completely fair and anyone complaining is being sour grapes. Let me tell you, I got into Stanford and other top unis, I am a URM, and I admit 100% that the admissions are not fair (perhaps even unfair), and that I wish that all the kids who were better than me got in instead of people like me who just happened to be born coloured. The admissions of celebrities, URMS are unfair and you know it. Get down from your high horse</p>
<p>No, they are justified in admitting celebs, urms etc. Its basic supply and demand. They have tons of "regular" applicants and few celebs, rec athletes etc. The school wouldn't be as highly ranked if it didn't admit those types of students and wouldn't be as valued. I have no statistics to back up what I say here, but when Chelsea Clinton chose Stanford, the school's prestige (if it is even quantifiable) went up (at least subjectively). It kind of sucks for normal people like me, but its true. Go to the Yale board and everyone is talking about Mischa Barton (of the O.C.). It is more exciting to people who go there, it may not be enough to convince people to go to a school, but hey we are fickle creatures and hey I would love to go to a school with Mischa Barton lol.</p>
<p>Wow that was long and pointless, but I think I got my point across. Wow I hate these threads, they are such a hard drop back into reality.</p>
<p>I think admissions are really justified... people have to understand straight As and perfect SATs mean nothing, even winning amazing national awards, they are looking for PERSONALITY, you have to portray it through essays and recs, and also you must remember : CONTEXT as well</p>
<p>Hey genius (thebravery)...
Maybe you didn't deserve to get in being the bright person that we all know you are. What i was saying (and maybe you didn't get it the first time around) is that being a urm does help you get in. Perhaps you didn't deserve it that much but it does help you. I don't think the college process is fair, but it is not as unfair as ppl may think. What i and the book i was citing were saying is that if you don't give any advantages to urms/leagacies/athletes, then it would only affect your chances of getting in .5%. Unless you think you are part of that .5% stop b****ing. I also agree with SalikSyed, the admissions process does have to do with personality as well. TheBravery, if you don't think you deserved to get in, then don't go, thats simple (b.c you prob can't handle the work). There are many many many other urms/legacies/athletes who actually did get in and can handle it.
I hate the college process because it makes everyone so bitter and they have to blame someone else/ the process to make themselves feel better. Maybe that person was well qualified for the school...that doesn't mean the school has to think you are a fit for them, and it also doesn't mean that you are any less brilliant than when you applied. SO in essence what i am trying to say is stop your scapegoating and bitter remarks about the kids who did get in and remember that life goes on.</p>
<p>You're right TECHY101. What an **** i've been. MY sincerest apologies to you and Zelda55. </p>
<p>Now that I think about it, of course my black skin and dreadlocks will contribute more to Stanford than the white skinned brown haired majority. How could I have not realized this?</p>
<p>Thanks for reminding that life goes on TECHY101 - I'll write that down somewhere in case I suddenly forget. </p>
<p>Sorry again for my outburst - you have made me see the light.</p>
<p>O f*** off. I wasn't reminding you that life goes on, i was reminding those that didn't get in, like that bitter mother who was complaining. But perhaps i should have directed that response to you since your dumb a** is probably going to fail out of stanford or what ever school you choose. Are you seriouslty this stupid. Of course diversity is important! I don't understand ppl like you who uses a system which helps you get into a better college than you "deserve" and then b**** about it. Like i said b4, if you don't think you are acedemically qualified, then don't go and give the spot to someone you think "deserves" to go there. Btw, its not diversity in the sense of skin color that most colleges are trying to accomplish (although they do recognize that is important) it is also diversity in experience and interests (ewww dreadlocks...good luck w/ that).</p>
<p>O i am calm ; ). hehe I think he just changed my mind though...i def want to go to mit over stanford...so in a way...thank you thebravery for being such a jerk</p>
<p>that's a poor decision, dude, because the quality of living at stanford is 10x better. the kids are WAAAY more laid back, but at the same time they're more intelligent all-around than the kids at MIT. look for a lot of people to be boasting about their SAT scores at MIT even though they lack social skills/raw talent. if you pick stanford, though, the kids are well-rounded and more geared for the real world.</p>
<p>Calm down TECHY101.
I don't think you should use my being a jerk as a reason not to go to Stanford. Stanford needs jerks like me. And it needs people like you too. Like you said, diversity.</p>
<p>Oh and I dont really have dreadlocks.</p>
<p>Oh and since you seem to have really taken what I have said seriously, let me tell I was just joking. I didn't mean half those things. You should calm down. Take a chill pill. Actually take two. And don't forget water. Those things really need be washed down.</p>