***Official Thread for 2017 BSMD applicants***

@srk2017, did your son get the pitt gap email yet?

please chance me: applying for BS MD colleges. tier 2&3, (any tier 1s to consider?)

Location: California elite private school, no class ranking
Ethnicity: Indian
GPA: 3.78 UW, 4.49W
(honors/AP from 9th grade, low grades one single semester due to severe injury. counselor mentioning it)

Test scores: ACT: 36, SAT Bio: 790, SAT Math II: 790, SAT Chem: 770
APā€™s taken: APUSH, CalcAB, CalcBC, Comp. Sc, Bio, Physics, Psych, Lang, World History
Senior year courses: AP Micro & Macro Eco, AP Chem, AP Lit, and also taking Advanced level (college level?) courses in Bio & Social Studies

ECs:
Community Service: headed & organized a 200+ attendee non-profit hackathon during school year (300 hours)
Research: summer internship on adult stem cells at research institute (300 hours)
Healthcare volunteering: Volunteered at front desk at Indian hospital (100 hours)
Work: Technology internship over school year (100 hours)
Healthcare experience: Senior home, disabled young adults (60 hours)
Shadowing: specialist physician (40 hours)
Tutoring: 40 hours
Lab work: Neuroscience summer course
Athlete: rigorous sport (out after injury) state level medals, regional (multiple state) medals
VP/President of a few clubs like Computer Science Club, Medical Club etc.

Iā€™ve a strong technical background - fluent in Java, web & mobile apps, with few websites and some apps in app store, did a couple of pro-bono internships that were well regarded, and won prizes at many hackathons. would mentioning this hurt my BSMD chances? my favorite tech project is one where i used tech to help with medical training, and iā€™m highlighting that for sure. And no, Iā€™m not interested in Computer Science as a career, iā€™m one of those nuts that really wants to be a doctor.

@chick5 - No GAP email yet. It appears it will take couple of weeks.

Northwestern HPME applications can be requested now. DS received online application link last night.

In some other thread, I read this. So if any one interested, here is a new BS/MD program.

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/pre-med-topics/1922947-advanced-medical-school-acceptance-program-mssu.html#latest

http://www.mssu.edu/yours-to-lose.php

Is this a BS/MD or BS/DO program?

@srk2017, KCUMB is an osteopathic medical school, so it would be a Bachelor/DO program.

@Roentgen - I initially thought it was DO and then they talked about new school in 2017. Afterwards, I realized they are starting a new campus.

@srk2017, if Iā€™m not mistaken, I think itā€™s more of a satellite campus in Joplin, Missouri under the same medical school, KCUMB. They are probably building a new building there in Joplin though. That type of setup happens sometimes during the clinical years of medical schools, but does happen more often with D.O. schools in terms of satellite campuses, than in the MD allopathic world. There are a few allopathic med schools that do this but itā€™s not the norm.

Itā€™s past mid-September-- Does anyone know the status of Miamiā€™s Dual Degree in Medicine program? I called today and the UG office said they were still working on it, but the deadline is approaching fast.

@h99999, itā€™s really weird if Miamiā€™s Dual Degree in Medicine application is not up yet, unless the deadline is like January or something. Itā€™s always been November 1 in the past.

It seems to be the same application every year. http://www6.miami.edu/marcom/dualdegree/medicine_Supplemental_App.pdf

So I would just fill this out in the meantime while waiting.

How many students does Miami take? Also, how strong is the program, comparable or better than BU or CWRU o REMS etcā€¦?

@srk2017 - Miami takes around 40 students. The program is in the upper echelon of 2nd tier BS/MD programs. The program is comparable to BU, though slightly lower. And it is lower than both REMS and CWRU. A good rule of thumb to gauge the competitiveness/strength of programs is by looking at their med school rankings. As youā€™ll see, most top tier programs are connected to med schools in the top 20-25 (with the exception of Brown PLME).

However, if you are interested in ophthalmology, then Miami HPME is arguably the best program because they are right across the street from Bascom Palmer, which is the best eye hospital in the country.

@srk2017, Miami Miller, in terms of the entire med school class, is about 150 students: http://admissions.med.miami.edu/md-programs/general-md/class-profile. Iā€™m not sure what percentage are Dual-Degree in Medicine students.

Miami Miller is the strongest medical school in Florida and is a strong middle-tier medical school, but probably not near the level of CWRU, Rochester, or BU (although there is a lot to be said for not dealing with cold weather and snow while going thru med school). That being said, their residency programs in Ophthalmology (Bascom Palmer - #1) and Derm are in the top tier of their respective specialties. You would be in no way at a disadvantage, in terms of the residency match, or for more competitive residencies, solely due to having gone to Miami Miller.

In the preclinical/basic science years (usually the first 2 years) I believe Miami-Miller and Rochester are Pass/Fail but do keep track of ranking internally in some form. Miami-Miller does it by quartiles. Rochester mainly does it for AOA Honor Society selection purposes, but not for calculating class rank.

Both BU and CWRU are also Pass/Fail in the preclinical/basic science years as well, but there is no further internal tracking of performance during those years, what is called ā€œtrueā€ Pass/Fail grading.

@Roentgen and @bsmdprep - Thanks for info on Miami. My S doesnā€™t do well in humid weather, so Miami weather is -ve for him.

@srk2017, vs. driving thru several feet of snow and frigid temperatures as youā€™ll probably get in Boston and New York?

@Roentgen - Yes, unfortunately. He gets dehydrated easily.

@srk2017, ah, fair enough.

@Roentgen, what are your thoughts on the attrition rate at Miami for BS/MD? I have heard that only 60% progress to MD part.

Agree with @chick5, and I remember I saw that 60% attrition rate from Miami website before. Maybe someone from the problem can enlighten us on this.