<p>"UCRGrad, why did you stay all four years?" </p>
<p>Cuz I was dumb.</p>
<p>"i made a horrible decision after highschool and ended up at R, but i'm trying to get the hell out."</p>
<p>You're not alone. 15% of UCR freshmen LEAVE after 1 year. That's 1 in 8. I wish you the best of luck getting out of Riverside.</p>
<p>UCRGrad</p>
<p>is that 15 percent figure for freshman who voluntarily leave or do they count people who get booted for bad grades? i know a good amount of people that were kicked out and some who transferred. </p>
<p>how's the job outlook like for a ucr grad?</p>
<p>Wow, you are pretty ridiculous. The campus is green and beautiful, and the town isn't that bad. There are parts of Riverside outside of that which surrounds UCR. I know, shocking. Also, Riverside is not a hick-town, as you describe it with your comments about overalls and chewing straw at local clubs. What malls are hick malls? The galleria? The plaza? </p>
<p>What study says that Riverside has the worst air? It's improving, which is amazing considering the rate of population increase in the area. Also, you should realize that the bad air isn't from the area, but comes in from LA and other places, for the record.</p>
<p>Vegas is about four hours away, maybe three if you don't stop and speed a bit and there's no traffic, but there are Indian casinos towards the desert. LA is about an hour away, maybe 1.5 during hours when it's smart to drive there. Knotts and Disneyland are about an hour or less during times when it's smart to drive (which really is most of the time). </p>
<p>I don't think US News did a representative survey, but maybe they did. I question the validity of the results, but certainly UCR has many commuters.</p>
<p>Have you seen a breakdown of where students are from? There was thread on the UC general thread that showed it, and it did show most UCR students are from Southern California, I don't think it showed most are from the Island Empire, and that most are from poorly performing high schools. Two of the main schools in Riverside send a total of over a hundred kids to UCR, some with large scholarships, and from these two places kids go to other great schools (Harvard, Penn, MIT, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, ect).</p>
<p>Is the course selection really that limited? I haven't compared thoroughly, but during the various times I've looked at the UCR catalogue, I've always felt I would never even come close to taking the number of courses that I'm interested in and that are offered.</p>
<p>Is your colloquium like every other colloquium that you've heard about? </p>
<p>Most of the campus is fine, with many brick buildings that go together well, and look great near the green from the grass and trees.</p>
<p>i'm not one to care or complain about building aesthetics but UCR has a mixture of good/bad edifices. The newer ones tend to be the better looking ones (science library, engineering) however, some of the buildings are just plain bad such as the physical education building and sproul (NO AC). </p>
<p>And you have to admit that the area surrounding UCR is just plain terrible. You've got hookers hanging out on university and at least 1 shady motel every block. I know there are nice areas in Riverside but they definitely aren't near UCR (not walking distance). </p>
<p>There really isn't much to do during the weekends; i wouldn't know because i go home like most of the students but my apartment mate is from norcal and he complains all the time. You really do have to bring a car to keep sane; all the attractions are at least 15 minutes away. </p>
<p>And having an indian casino as an "attraction" is a terrible thing. I know many students that have gotten addicted to gambling and subsequently were placed on AP for poor performance.</p>
<p>"Wow, you are pretty ridiculous."</p>
<p>Hey, man, I just tell it as it is.</p>
<p>"The campus is green and beautiful, and the town isn't that bad."</p>
<p>The campus is flat and ugly. Building architecture is uninspiring, plain, and wreaks of "budget construction." There is a lot of dirt on and around campus. I'm not sure where you're getting the "green" from - Riverside is located in a desert, afterall. </p>
<p>"Also, Riverside is not a hick-town, as you describe it with your comments about overalls and chewing straw at local clubs."</p>
<p>Riverside and the rest of the Inland Empire has an unfortunate reputation for being a white-trash hick town. "The 909" gets bagged on incessantly by radio stations, t.v. shows, etc.</p>
<p>"What malls are hick malls? The galleria? The plaza?"</p>
<p>Galleria, hick mall. Moreno Valley Mall, abandoned hick mall. Compare these malls to other Socal Malls: Fashion Island, Southcoast Plaza, Beverly Center, etc. Night and day.</p>
<p>"What study says that Riverside has the worst air?"</p>
<p>Do a google search. There are multiple rankings of air quality, and Riverside is almost always at the top. It's ALWAYS worse than Los Angeles, too.</p>
<p>"It's improving, which is amazing considering the rate of population increase in the area."</p>
<p>The air is improving? Really? That's a new one.</p>
<p>"Also, you should realize that the bad air isn't from the area, but comes in from LA and other places, for the record."</p>
<p>I don't care where it's from. The toxic air blows into Riverside, and people breathe it. </p>
<p>"LA is about an hour away, maybe 1.5 during hours when it's smart to drive there."</p>
<p>1 hour is laughable. Yes, maybe at 2am. There's always traffic caused by people trying to "get the heck out of Riverside."</p>
<p>"Knotts and Disneyland are about an hour or less during times when it's smart to drive (which really is most of the time)."</p>
<p>Again, 1 hour is laughable. I don't know what kind of lowered import with punched-out exhaust you're driving, but you ain't getting to either of those places in 60 minutes.</p>
<p>"I don't think US News did a representative survey, but maybe they did. I question the validity of the results, but certainly UCR has many commuters."</p>
<p>Hence the reputation of "commuter school."</p>
<p>"Have you seen a breakdown of where students are from? There was thread on the UC general thread that showed it, and it did show most UCR students are from Southern California, I don't think it showed most are from the Island Empire, and that most are from poorly performing high schools."</p>
<p>Oh, you have to look at UCOP data to get that. UCR has the highest percentage of students coming from low academic performance index high schools in the UC System. These are the students who took 1 AP in high school and scored a "3," and posted the results on their fridge, to the glee of their parents who are so proud that they will be going to a UC school instead of selling dope down the street like the rest of the family.</p>
<p>"Two of the main schools in Riverside send a total of over a hundred kids to UCR, some with large scholarships,"</p>
<p>And there you go. Inland Empire kids making up a large portion of your freshman class.</p>
<p>" and from these two places kids go to other great schools (Harvard, Penn, MIT, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, ect)."</p>
<p>Every school has outliers.</p>
<p>"Is the course selection really that limited? I haven't compared thoroughly, but during the various times I've looked at the UCR catalogue, I've always felt I would never even come close to taking the number of courses that I'm interested in and that are offered."</p>
<p>UCR has all the general ed courses....of course. But compare the course offerings in one discipline with those offered by, say, UC Berkeley. Your jaw will drop.</p>
<p>UCRGrad</p>
<p>You tell it how you think it is, how you tell yourself it is how you want it to be. It isnt how you say it is in many ways.</p>
<p>The campus has lots of grass. Really, it does. It has many trees. Riverside itself also has many trees, much more than surrounding cities. If you go to the top of Mt. Rubidoux and look down, you will see how green Riverside is- there are trees all over the place. Theres also the botanical gardens at UCR- ever been?</p>
<p>The 909 does have this reputation, but it isnt deserved. Did you know about 15-20 years ago Riverside was part of the 714? Did you know Claremont is part of the 909? But I guess these things mean nothing to you. People are stupid, and many bag on UCR and Riverside. Does that mean that theyre right? No, it means most of them are ignorant and ridiculous.</p>
<p>How exactly is the Galleria a hick mall? Its no fashion Island, but few places in the world are. And guess what? Its fairly easy to get to Fashion Island, and many other malls from UCR. </p>
<p>Its worse than LA for a reason- BECAUSE IT GETS LAS AIR. Do you understand that, and how geography and weather make this happen? If LA had to deal with the pollution it produced, it would have the worse air, not Riverside. The mountains trap in the air that accumulates from places like LA.</p>
<p>The air is improving. You should look into all the stuff on campus. UCR is a major center of study for air quality. Houston has worse air than Riverside.<br>
"Also, you should realize that the bad air isn't from the area, but comes in from LA and other places, for the record."</p>
<p>Laugh all you want, 1 hour is possible, depending on where youre driving, and when, and no, not always at 2 am. There isnt always traffic. You are such an absolutist. Get it, really, not everything is all or nothing. An hour is what you should expect to get to Disneyland or Knotts during most times of the day. Im glad I make you laugh, and Im okay with that. </p>
<p>Dude, a hundred kids out of how many is how large a portion of the class? How big is the total class size? They do make up a significant portion of the class, but how much, and why is this problematic?</p>
<p>"You tell it how you think it is, how you tell yourself it is how you want it to be. It isnt how you say it is in many ways."</p>
<p>I read these sentences 3 times and I STILL have no idea what you said.</p>
<p>"The campus has lots of grass. Really, it does. It has many trees. Riverside itself also has many trees, much more than surrounding cities."</p>
<p>Considering that Riverside is in the desert, I'm not sure how useful the phrase "many more trees than surrounding cities" is.</p>
<p>"Theres also the botanical gardens at UCR- ever been?"</p>
<p>Yes, I have. The botnical gardens are ugly - it's just desert cacti and ugly bushes. Nice plants/flowers rarely grow in such harsh climates.</p>
<p>"The 909 does have this reputation, but it isnt deserved."</p>
<p>Whether or not you think the reputation is deserved, people will automatically label you as such if they find out where you're from.</p>
<p>"Did you know about 15-20 years ago Riverside was part of the 714?"</p>
<p>Good thing the OC kicked Riverside out of their area code - nobody wants to be associated with Riverside.</p>
<p>"Did you know Claremont is part of the 909? But I guess these things mean nothing to you."</p>
<p>And I'm pretty sure Claremont is not happy about that.</p>
<p>"People are stupid, and many bag on UCR and Riverside. Does that mean that theyre right? No, it means most of them are ignorant and ridiculous."</p>
<p>So I guess the vast majority of Southern CA is stupid, ignorant, and ridiculous.</p>
<p>"How exactly is the Galleria a hick mall?</p>
<p>It has hicks in it.</p>
<p>"Its no fashion Island, but few places in the world are. And guess what? Its fairly easy to get to Fashion Island, and many other malls from UCR."</p>
<p>Yes, and are you going to drive 1 hour to buy a pair of jeans, when you can get it locally at the Tyler Galleria hick mall?</p>
<p>"Its worse than LA for a reason- BECAUSE IT GETS LAS AIR. Do you understand that, and how geography and weather make this happen?"</p>
<p>Do you understand that this is 100% irrelevant? The fact is: Riverside is one of the most polluted regions in the country, with air quality worse than LA. It is immaterial where/who/what the pollution came from.</p>
<p>"If LA had to deal with the pollution it produced, it would have the worse air, not Riverside. The mountains trap in the air that accumulates from places like LA."</p>
<p>In that case, they should just tear down the UCR campus and build a gigantic windmill instead to blow all the pollution back where it came from.</p>
<p>"The air is improving. You should look into all the stuff on campus. UCR is a major center of study for air quality."</p>
<p>UCR is a major center of study for air quality because it's the PERFECT place to study the bad air quality. Search the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM), and you'll find an article on pollution in SoCal, and how Riverside air is near the top, and how it DAMAGES lungs in children. UC Riverside doesn't have a medical library, but I THINK they might have the NEJM. </p>
<p>"Laugh all you want, 1 hour is possible, depending on where youre driving, and when, and no, not always at 2 am. There isnt always traffic." </p>
<p>I guess if you're one of the AZN guys on campus with the lowered Civics, 5" exhausts, and yellow paint job, you should be able to get to the places you mention well within an hour. </p>
<p>"Im glad I make you laugh, and Im okay with that."</p>
<p>What can I say. You're a funny guy.</p>
<p>"Dude, a hundred kids out of how many is how large a portion of the class? How big is the total class size? They do make up a significant portion of the class, but how much, and why is this problematic?"</p>
<p>No, it's just a hundred kids from TWO high schools out of a lot more in the IE. It's problematic because kids from low-API high schools tend not to perform as well. They raise their hands and ask dumb questions in class. They lower the standards of each course because the prof has to dumb things down. When there are group projects, you have to do all the work becuase they're too unskilled and incompetent to be trusted with any real intellectual activity. List goes on and on.</p>
<p>UCRGrad</p>
<p>You said you say it how it is. My sentence, in various different ways, said you dont say it how it is. Understand now?</p>
<p>Riverside isnt in a desert, really. My high school environmental science teachers, and others, have said that the Inland Empire is actually one of very few places where a particular type of climate exists, some cross between dessert and plains or ocean or something. Its most certainly dessert-like, but I forget what it really is. What if I said it has a high number of trees per capita? Its very green. The point is that its green, even though its desert.</p>
<p>Some people will judge, some will not. People who only judge based on that and will not change their ideas are prejudiced and generally ignorant. </p>
<p>And I'm pretty sure Claremont is not happy about that.</p>
<p>I didnt know towns had feelings.</p>
<p>Is it the vast majority of southern California that feels that way? You know this because . . . ? And yeah, guess what, those who feel that way probably are- they hear the radio, they watch the OC, maybe theyve driven through on the freeway a few times, and theyve never really been. They dont know, they have no idea, only what theyve been told from people who have usually barely been (if theyve been at all). Most of the contact they have from it is from a few key sources, fictional sources of entertainment, which might have behind it some truth, but how much? And yes, most people in the world are ignorant of many things, but the ones who judge Riverside, UCR, whatever, without any actual investigation are choosing to remain so. And yes, in this respect they are ridiculous.</p>
<p>I'm not one of the azns with a lowered car and exhaust and whatever, and people in Riverside, who have lived their for years, know how long it takes to get there. I didn't say that you could get everywhere I mentioned within an hour, I said that you can get to certain particular places within an hour, and others in other times that I listed.</p>
<p>Why don't you provide the whole list?</p>
<p>The regicider:</p>
<p>What did you mean when you stated there are wierd people in the Honors Program? Are they merely socially estranged or is more disconcerting?</p>
<p>For the UHP, what kind of community service is required?</p>
<p>UCRGrad:</p>
<p>If people that surrounded you at UCR were intellectually inferior, wouldn't that just raise your ranking and help propel you to the top of your classes as far as grading curves are concered? I understand that the networking for the future will be severely hindered if your classmates are stupid and have no ambition, but isn't a great looking academic record be worth the trade-off? </p>
<p>If the 4 years at UCR were so terrible that you feel the need to be a cyber Paul Revere to warn people from the UCR, how exactly did you manage to stay there and not transfer?</p>
<p>Walnuts,</p>
<p>the people in the Honors program that i met were socially awkward. They seemed like those kids that tried hard and didn't do so well in school. Some were alright, but the majority were just weird. Definitely meet the people first before you sign up for Honors because you will have to live with themh in an honors dorm. </p>
<p>Yes, the curves are generous at UCR. Getting A's aren't super easy but they definitely don't require hours upon hours of studying.</p>
<p>"You said you say it how it is. My sentence, in various different ways, said you dont say it how it is. Understand now?"</p>
<p>You might wanna try reading that back to yourself because I haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about.</p>
<p>"Riverside isnt in a desert, really. My high school environmental science teachers, and others, have said that the Inland Empire is actually one of very few places where a particular type of climate exists, some cross between dessert and plains or ocean or something. Its most certainly dessert-like, but I forget what it really is. What if I said it has a high number of trees per capita? Its very green. The point is that its green, even though its desert."</p>
<p>Look, buddy. If it looks like a desert, it's hot like a desert, and it's got cacti like a desrt, I don't really care what your bioecological high school teachers say. For all intents and purposes, it's a desert. If you don't believe me, drive 60E out of Riverside. The shrubbery alongside the freeway turns progressively greener as you drive AWAY from UCR...and if you know what's good for you, I'd keep driving and never turn back.</p>
<p>"Some people will judge, some will not. People who only judge based on that and will not change their ideas are prejudiced and generally ignorant."</p>
<p>Hey, I just tell it as it is. If you don't mind that the entire southern CA sees "The 909" as a hicktown, then that's your prerogative.</p>
<p>And I'm pretty sure Claremont is not happy about that.</p>
<p>I didnt know towns had feelings.</p>
<p>If Claremont had feelings, they are very very hurt.</p>
<p>"Is it the vast majority of southern California that feels that way? You know this because . . . ?"</p>
<p>Vast majority. Are you honestly going to tell me this isn't true?</p>
<p>"[blah blah blah people are judgemental blah blah probably have never even been to UCR blah blah blah"</p>
<p>Good. And you can spend the first 10 minutes of conversation with every personyou meet trying to explain to them that "UCR isn't really that bad" ...as they nod and smile.</p>
<p>"Why don't you provide the whole list?"</p>
<p>List of desirable places to go within an hour of Riverside:
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<p>UCRGrad</p>
<p>"If people that surrounded you at UCR were intellectually inferior, wouldn't that just raise your ranking and help propel you to the top of your classes as far as grading curves are concered?"</p>
<p>Yep! But hoards of mediocre students lower the overall standards, and classes are dumbed down to the simplest level possible. Even when material is presented at the retard-level, students will STILL raise their hands and ask a stupid question. You know how people say, "There's no such thing as a stupid question?" There are. They ask them in class at UCR.</p>
<p>"I understand that the networking for the future will be severely hindered if your classmates are stupid and have no ambition, but isn't a great looking academic record be worth the trade-off?"</p>
<p>I forget who wrote this, and I think it's a little ****-poor, but it sums it up kinda well: "Graduating at the top of your UCR class is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded."</p>
<p>"If the 4 years at UCR were so terrible that you feel the need to be a cyber Paul Revere to warn people from the UCR, how exactly did you manage to stay there and not transfer?"</p>
<p>I was sucked in. But now I'm gone. And I never look back.</p>
<p>UCRGrad</p>
<p>Here it is one more time. I called you ridiculous, you said you say it how it is, now, for the sixth time, I'm saying you DON't say it how it is. You with me now?</p>
<p>Buddy, Ive lived in Riverside for 18 years, Im familiar with it. But I guess you have a monopoly about how Riverside, and UCR, REALLY are. </p>
<p>My prerogative? Im sure every single person sees THE 909 as you say it. Even those within it. You are such an absolutist. Do you know what means? It means you see things as entirely something, or not that at all. Theres no middle ground. You speak with no nuance.</p>
<p>True? Not true? I havent spoken to the vast majority. I dont know. You seem to have done this. Show me a poll or something. Anything?</p>
<p>Good. And you can spend the first 10 minutes of conversation with every personyou meet trying to explain to them that "UCR isn't really that bad" ...as they nod and smile.</p>
<p>I do when it comes up. </p>
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"Why don't you provide the whole list?"</p>
<p>List of desirable places to go within an hour of Riverside:
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<p>Man, I wish I had the clever skills they taught you at UCR. Im sorry you went, and took the spot of someone who would have appreciated the school. Does every school have problems? Yeah. Does UCR probably have more than most? Perhaps. Is it the last place everyone should go, for one large reason because Riverside is a hick town and a terrible place to be? No. Not even close, so stop saying it.</p>
<p>Walnuts, yeah a lot of the people are socially awkward, still found plenty of normal friends though.</p>
<p>I live in California (the LA county) and visited UCR many times so I am willing to share my input about UCR. </p>
<p>19% of Riverside residents age 25 and older have a bachelor's or advanced college degree. Majority of people live in Riverside because the homes there are cheap. It is becoming the fastest growing city in the Inland Empire. Recently, my neighbor sold his a little more than half a million dollar home and moved to Riverside. </p>
<p>I agree Riverside is not a ideal place to live in if you are coming from a suburban or urban place with a popluation over 3 million ppl in your city alone. It is hard to find things to do IN Riverside than in a big city like Los Angeles or San Diego. Riverside is somewhere along the lines of a small / semi small town and I heard a lot of people saying that it reminds them Davis in terms of campus surroundings (not counting academics). If you are coming from a populated surb or city then you wouldn't fit in at all. People in the Inland Empire or small towners are used to this life style as oppose to people that are used to driving hours on the freeway because of traffic, walking through crowds of people at high school, and having a tough time looking for a parking space at the mall. </p>
<p>To most UC applicants in California, UCR is considered a "safety" school and chances are students would be happier if they got into another UC other than UCR(and UCM). </p>
<p>UCR campus is pretty green and nice. University of California, Riverside, Botanic Gardens contains 40 acres of unusual plants, with four miles of walking trails. Yeah you can say that it is nice. Same goes to the rest of the 9 UC campuses. Yes, indeed it has some trees. But if you like trees then you should go to UC Santa Cruz. It is in the middle of a forest with deers running around. Pretty much every UC campus is nice with trees, gardens but compared to the other UCs, I can't say that it is the most "greenist" school. If you like trees then you should visit UC Santa Cruz and it is driving distance to the beach as well. </p>
<p>Beach: UCR and UCM; I believe are the only UC schools that are not in walking distance to the beach. UCR is in the inland which is far far far away from the beach. One to two hours is considered far in my book. It is nearly impossible to do that every weekend. It will take 4 hours taken into account arrive/return time + the traffic. I don't see that possible because it is a waste of gas money to visit the beach every Saturday from Riverside to LA or SD(Santa Monica, Newport Beach, etc) considering the cost of gas in California. You don't have the time or the budget to do that every Saturday so it is really a hassle to get out of Riverside and to plan things for fun. It is not close promixity to beaches, main attractions, landmarks, or world renowed class malls that urban/surban people are used to. Remember that you don't have a whole lot of time to study so time is a factor. Sure you can make it to the beach in 1-2 hours from Riverside but in Riverside who would do that every Saturday ? Considering time, gas money, distance, and the hassle, odds are against the favors. Riverside is not fun. </p>
<p>Smog/Weather: The Riverside area is referred to as a smog belt because of its above-average level of air pollution. Whenever you are in an inland area, it tends to trap heat and smog. Los Angeles is a smoggy place with so many cars people drive and long lasting LA traffic that last for 1-2 hours. But the good thing is that parts of LA is near the beach which has winds blowing away the bad air out while absorbing the clean ocean air at the same time. UCLA is near Santa Monica and Santa Monica/Westwood/Bel-Air isn't considered smoggy. Downtown LA is. Riverside/Modesto is. </p>
<p>Malls: Speaking of malls, Riverside has malls but not the first class typical developed ones. Beverly Centers, South Coast Plaza, Irvine Spectum, and a couple of Westfield Shoppingcenters are the ones you can't find in Riverside. Maybe Tyler Galleria is the closest you can get? Riverside is mostly known for their outlets. The closest one I been is Cabazon outlet and technically it isn't really a mall. It is an outdoor type of mall with no air condition. It is not connected like the Westfield shopping malls. Majority of people wear shorts there because it is really hot. It reminds me of Las Vegas (desert like environment without the big hotels and indoor places). You won't find any "Westfield" shopping malls down at Riverside. You have to travel far to find one. </p>
<p>Academics: Almost 75% of the time, UCR accepts any1 (bottom half of California) that meets the minimun requirements. UCM takes the other half. UCR attracts lots of 1st generation, low income students attending poor academic high schools. UCR has the highest hispanic student population than the rest of the 8 UC schools. It is home to most hispanic high school students in California looking for higher education that don't want to attend a Cal State. This is it for them. If you look at the stats, UCR has the highest % of hispanic students, 1st generation, low income, poor academic hs than the rest of the 8 UC campuses. If you are looking to strive and challenge yourself academically then UCR is not the place for you in the UC system unless you have something unique that is worth attending financially(Regents Scholarships) or academically(Thomas-Haider program). Those are two primarily reasons that I hear students attend UCR over schools like UCLA, Berkeley, UCSD, etc. UCR works out for them in money/academic (majors) situations.</p>
<p>I may leave something out but this is based on opinons of people who live in Los Angeles county all their lives</p>
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<h2>Restaurants - yeah, like fast food and Denny's. </h2>
<p>Because, as a college student, I regularly dine on steak and lobster. The UV and the RiversidePlaze have literally every major restaurant chain I can think of, from Quiznos to Chipotle to McDonalds to Applebees. Not to say there are plenty of nice places around too (Benihana, Red Lobster etc etc)</p>
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<h2>Woh, I guess you've never heard of traffic, or you're driving around at 2 am. </h2>
<p>Yeah, we often to head to Disneyland at weekday rush hour. Disneyland is 35 miles from campus, Moronga is less than 25, on the weekends, there's no traffic. If you head to a casino at 7am than yeah, you'll hit traffic. But if you go at a normal time, you'll get there in 30 minutes.</p>
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<h2>Not everyone....just 70% of the campus. That is, only 30% of students stick around on the weekends, according to US News.</h2>
<p>Look, I don't remember saying the school was perfect. Yes, the commuter feel puts a damper on campus, but that doesn't ruin anything. I think anyone who commutes misses out and are retarded for doing so. The school could and should take steps to encourage dorm living but as of now, the situation is fine. I enjoy it.</p>
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<h2>On the contrary, most of the campus is old and depressing-looking. Only a few buildings are new. Of the new buildings, 100% of them are ugly.</h2>
<p>Let's just forgot about the construction of the enormous new commons, the new humanities building, the massive roadwork. </p>
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<h2>Typical intelligent response from a UCR student.</h2>
<p>I can only imagine how typical it is for people to call you an idiot.</p>
<p>Mralleycat, are you aware of the state of real estate market in America? California is no cheap place to live, and neither is Riverside. Housing prices are insane.</p>
<p>Whered you get the statistic about the number of people with bachelors degrees in Riverside? Thats sort of interesting.</p>
<p>For the record, dont around 350,000 people or so now live in Riverside? This might be off, but Im not sure. Riverside Davis-like? I cant agree. And Riversiders not used to traffic? I know of people who commute to work in LA everyday. And you should see the Galleria during Christmas time if you want to talk about parking spaces.</p>
<p>Berkeley isnt exactly within walking distance to a beach. It takes about an hour, with moderate traffic two hours to get to the beach from Riverside, and about 1.5 hours to get to the mountains. It takes about an hour to get to casinos, about an hour, sometimes longer, to get to the OC, an hour to the desert, generally 1.5 or so with traffic. Riverside isnt particularly exciting, but its within proximity to many things, and the city itself isnt as bad as people make it seem.</p>
<p>Cabazon is in the desert in the Palm Springs area, about an hour drive from Riverside. Riverside has a few main malls, but no, they are not grand affairs like those in Orange County.</p>
<p>not to nitpick but Cabazon is about 30 minutes away from Riverside, its right across the street from Morongo.</p>
<p>DEAR MRXALLEYCAT:</p>
<p>You said the following:</p>
<p>"Smog/Weather: The Riverside area is referred to as a smog belt because of its above-average level of air pollution."</p>
<p>Hmmmmm, the sentence sounds familiar, in fact it is a direct line from a Wikipedia article on UC Riverside; the section on Student Life, here <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California%2C_Riverside%5B/url%5D">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California%2C_Riverside</a></p>
<p>Because of your obvious plagiarism, I find it difficult to accept anything else that you said, and I hope that the other members of this forum reject your ideas as well. </p>
<p>In the future, if you want to quote an article, it is best that you use quotation marks, they look like this: " " and are located to the right of the keyboard. Failing to provide adaquate citation/quotation could land you in some serious **** at any academic institution you attend, even UC Riverside.</p>
<p>Have a nice day</p>
<p>KATP-Channel</p>
<p>Speaking of Wikipedia, a quick look at the history indicates that UCRGrad has been vandalizing the article, posting out of context information expressing bias.</p>