Official University of Pennsylvania ED 2007 Decisions

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<p>Nope...I re-read through it since I got my decisions. No typos.</p>

<p>I guess it goes to show that the stuff they say about how acceptances are unpredicatable is right. And, while I'm certainly not happy that I'm the one rejected...Penn can accept whoever they want, I suppose. After just a little more whining on my part, it'll be time to move on and figure out which other college I'd like to go to.</p>

<p>I guess I'll tell you why they say they rejected me if I or my gc gets a chance to talk to them.</p>

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<p>finally posting stats...</p>

<p>Decision && School: ACCEPTED to CAS</p>

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT Verbal:710
[</em>] SAT Math: 670
[<em>] SAT Writing: 710
[</em>] SAT Total: 2090
[<em>] SAT II: Spanish- 780, Math Level 2- 690, Bio- 640
[</em>] ACT: 31
[<em>] AP/IB taken/scores: Bio-4, English Lang- 4, Spanish Lang- 5, US History- 4
[</em>] GPA weighted: err...
[<em>] GPA unweighted: don't know
[</em>] Rank or % estimate: school doesn't rank</p>

<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Essays: i spent so much time on my main essay, and like a collective hour on the others
[</em>] Teacher Recs: didn't see, but assuming they're good
[<em>] Counselor Rec: i'm close to my dean, so i'm sure it was good
[</em>] Hook (if any): err...</p>

<p>[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: CA
[</em>] School Type: one of the top private schools in the country
[<em>] Ethnicity: african-american
[</em>] Gender: f
[<em>] Legacy Yes/No: no
[</em>] Recruited Yes/No: no
[li] Important ECs: a lot of community service work with animals (since i was in 5th grade) and a lot of writing for yearbook, newspapers, literary magazines, etc.</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Other Factors: i got a supplementary rec from my community service director, which i read and was amazing. also, i never had an interview. my school has a good relationship with penn, and sends a lot of kids there each year: last year it was around 15.</p>

<p>General Comments/Congratulations/etc: YAY, i really cannot believe i got in. i was going back and forth on whether or not to apply ed, and literally decided and sent my app in on november 1st. i'm so excited for next year! i love penn so much it's ridiculous.</p>

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<p>*Accepted: CAS *</p>

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT Verbal: 800
[</em>] SAT Math: 670
[<em>] SAT Writing: 800
[</em>] SAT Total: 2270
[<em>] SAT II:
Lit : 800
US His: 750
Chem: 720
[</em>] AP/IB taken/scores:
Lang: 5
Chem:4
US His:5
[<em>] GPA weighted: 4.17
[</em>] Rank or % estimate: 14/232</p>

<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Essays: Why Penn was really strong and creative. Page 217 was all right. Writing is my strong point.
[</em>] Teacher Recs: One really good, one good
[<em>] Counselor Rec: Good
[</em>] Hook (if any): White girl interested in Chinese/Asian studies (declared major). Have been taking Chinese lessons on my own. </p>

<p>[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: Delaware
[</em>] School Type: Charter School, sent 10 to Penn last year!
[<em>] Ethnicity: White
[</em>] Gender: F
[<em>] Legacy Yes/No: No
[</em>] Recruited Yes/No:
[li] Important ECs: Involvement with a dog rescue, help coordinate adoptions, etc. Run XC and track year round. </p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Other Factors: I got an extra rec from volunteering and my interview went well. </p>

<p>General Comments/Congratulations/etc: Congrats to everyone who got in. I can't wait to meet ya'll next year!</p>

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<p>Accepted: CAS</p>

<p>Stats:</p>

<pre><code>* SAT Verbal: 720
* SAT Math: 800
* SAT Writing: 740
* SAT Total: 2260
* SAT II:
Physics : 720
Math I: 750
Math II: 800
* AP/IB taken/scores:
English Language: 5
Physics B: 5
Microeconomics: 5
Calculus AB: 5
* GPA weighted: 4.55
* Rank or % estimate: top 5%
</code></pre>

<p>Subjective:
* Essays: Why Penn pertained largely to my major/community service interests. Autobiography page 217 extremely creative.<br>
* Teacher Recs: did not see
* Counselor Rec: did not see
* Hook (if any): girl interested in the study of physics.</p>

<p>Location/Person:</p>

<pre><code>* State or Country: Florida
* School Type: Private, Prep School
* Ethnicity: White
* Gender: F
* Legacy Yes/No: Yes (Mother Grad School)
* Recruited Yes/No: No
* Important ECs: Community service project founder, head of tutoring program, concert band, president of Operation Smile.
</code></pre>

<p>Other Factors: I received two interviews, one on campus (for legacy) and one locally (with an alumni), that went very well.</p>

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<p>MnM619 - Penn is not exactly Villanova but being Catholic by itself didn't hurt you - Penn has a big Newman Center (Catholic students organization), etc. Only 30% of legacies get in, people with 800 SATs get rejected, etc. They just have too many applicants and have to reject a lot of qualified people. It's not purely a matter of scores. For some reason you didn't hit it with them while others with lower scores did. I'm sure you'll be accepted by some other excellent school.</p>

<p>On the other hand, as a warning to others, religion and politics are the classic topics NOT to discuss during interviews. Bringing them up (regardless of what party or religion you are or the interviewer is and whether or not they are the same) is itself a mistake that may be noted.</p>

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<p>ACCEPTED CAS!!!!</p>

<p>another ecstatic lurker!</p>

<p>I didn't send in my SATs or SAT IIs b/c they were pretty weak, total = 2050
[ *] SAT Total: 2050
[ *] SAT II: n/a
[ *] ACT: 32
[ *] AP/IB taken/scores: Bio = 5, Lang and Comp = 4, US History = 3, Calc AB = 3, this year I'm taking AP Lit, Art History, and Stats
[ *] GPA weighted: n/a
[ *] GPA unweighted: 3.8
[ *] Rank or % estimate: my school doesn't send</p>

<p>[ /list][ b]Subjective:[ /b][ list]
[ *] Essays: very good - creative and unique
[ *] Teacher Recs: one amazing, one very good
[ *] Counselor Rec: very good, she liked me
[ *] Hook (if any): Mr. Stetson came to my school, he seemed to like me. we talked for 15-20 minutes.</p>

<p>[ /list][ b]Location/Person:[ /b][ list]
[ *] State or Country: SF California
[ *] School Type: small, private, all girls school
[ *] Ethnicity:white
[ *] Gender: F
[ *] Legacy Yes/No: no
[ *] Recruited Yes/No: no
[ *] Important ECs: started a community service club, captain of varsity swimming, swam 4 yrs, most dedicated etc, also editor of lit mag, lots of community service
[ /list][ b]Other Factors:[ /b] bad interview, i was sosososo nervous, but i guess it didn't matter!!! also BBB major, tried to tie science to art in application - i guess it worked</p>

<p>[ b]General Comments/Congratulations/etc:[ /b] Congrats everyone, i'm still in total shock. It took me a couple days to work up the nerve to post, but here it is. Can't wait to see you in September!!!</p>

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<p>Percy Skivins: </p>

<p>i actually showed my interviewer a satirical cartoon i drew that made fun of bush/republicans, and i asked which party he voted for in the election. (forgot his answer) i think as long as you present your viewpoints with clarity and intelligence and show respect for different opinions, it won't hurt you. after all, most kids (even those who apply to penn) don't really care about politics and know little about recent affairs, it just shows you are more knowledgeable and concerned.</p>

<p>congrats amy!</p>

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<p>Deferred CAS
Math: 800
Verbal: 630
Writing: 660
SAT 2: Math IIC: 800 French: 600
AP: Calc BC/AB 4, English 4, Biology 4, US History 4, Statistics 4, French 2(lol <em>shrug</em>) World History 4, Euro History 4, Human Geography 4,
APs Senior Year: Government: US, Government Comparative, Microeconomics, Macroeconomics, Multivariable Calculus (not AP), Physics C, French Lit, English Lit
GPA Unweighted: 3.7</p>

<p>Essays: Pretty good, I spent a good amount of time on both
Teacher Recs: One of them should be amazing, the other should be pretty good
Counselor Rec: very good, she liked me. she was furious when i got deferred
Hook: I spent two summers at UPenn, the first one was an arts program for architecture. the second summer, I took Calculus III at Upenn and I got an A. I was the only high school student there and the other students were juniors and seniors undergrat in the college.</p>

<p>State: GA, Atlanta
School Type: Public, 620 in my class
Ethnicity: Asian/Korean
Gender: Male
Legacy: negative
Recruited: negative
Important ECs: President of NHS, President of Math Club (was in club for 4 years, won awards), President of Environmental Club (was in club for 3 years), Beta Club, Habitat for Humanity</p>

<p>I think I have a pretty decent shot in April. My principal saw that I got deferred and offered to write me a rec, and I said sure...Also, my GPA/rank will go up this semester along with my SAT scores hopefully. I took them in December and thought I did considerably better.</p>

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<p>"On the other hand, as a warning to others, religion and politics are the classic topics NOT to discuss during interviews. Bringing them up (regardless of what party or religion you are or the interviewer is and whether or not they are the same) is itself a mistake that may be noted."</p>

<p>Meh, I figure if that hurt my application, it's a damn good thing they didn't accept me.</p>

<p>And on the Catholic note, 20% of the student body is Catholic, the supposed issue is with one particular admissions woman. She has flat refused to come to our school every year. I don't know that that was it, though. They could have had any reason, and I haven't even had the chance to ask them, yet.</p>

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<p>It's great that you are proud of your beliefs, but remember getting into a college is a privilege that they are free to withhold, so it doesn't usually pay to make yourself into a big pain BEFORE they take you. Later is ok.</p>

<p>Maybe they did get the feeling that your value system would just not be a good match for Penn (and maybe they were right about this). They do stem cell research, abortions in their hospital, etc. Even if 20% of the students are Catholic, I doubt many are ultra conservative. The overall atmosphere of the campus is not something that would really go that well with being a very conservative Catholic - the over all feeling is "big city Eastern liberal" and you might not have fit in all that well. I'm sure you could have done it, academically for sure, but there might have been times when you were uncomfortable. The adcom that your school doesn't seem to click with is a hint - imagine getting to campus and there are another 500 people on the faculty and many of your fellow students who are just as hostile to your value system as that adcom. Why not go somewhere that feels more like "home" to you, a place where the value system is closer to your own but the education is just as good. Georgetown, maybe? Notre Dame? I think you'd be happier in the end. The admissions people are not dumb and I think they might have sensed this vibe in your application and were really doing you a favor. The best school is not the one with the highest USNEWS ranking but the one that is the best for YOU.</p>

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<p>Accepted CAS</p>

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT Verbal: 740
[</em>] SAT Math: 800
[<em>] SAT Writing: 710
[</em>] SAT Total: 2250
[<em>] SAT II: Chinese w/ Listening 760, Biology M 750, Math Level 2 790, U.S. History 730
[</em>] ACT: N/A
[<em>] AP/IB taken/scores: Biology AP 5, U.S. History 5, Calculus BC 5, Calculus AB Subscore 5, Chemistry AP 4
[</em>] GPA weighted: around 4.4/4.5
[<em>] GPA unweighted: 4.0
[</em>] Rank or % estimate: 1/421</p>

<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Essays: Significant experience - solid, shows academic passion; Why Penn - not too creative, just straightforward, mostly about PPE
[</em>] Teacher Recs: U.S. History Teacher - very good, Biology Teacher - mediocre
[<em>] Counselor Rec: generic
[</em>] Hook (if any): Cellist, Sent in recording, I show that I care about politics (actually no real "hook")</p>

<p>[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: California
[</em>] School Type: Public
[<em>] Ethnicity: Chinese
[</em>] Gender: Male
[<em>] Legacy Yes/No: No
[</em>] Recruited Yes/No: No
[li] Important ECs: Mostly Cello Related (Orchestra, Quartet, Master Class) [/li][/ul]Other Factors: Some intangible they saw in my essays or recs. Maybe that I actually care about what I pursue, because otherwise my ECs/Awards are pretty average.</p>

<p>General Comments/Congratulations/etc: Congratulations to everyone who made it, and to those deferred, don't give up hope.</p>

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<p>Well, my gc talked to Penn. Apparently, they claim, my "why Penn" essay doesn't mention anything Penn specific. This is news to me. Apparently, The West Philadelphia Tutoring Project, The Penn Museum, the "Off the Beat" A Capella group, the "culture clash" freshman seminar, and the three Penn professors I mentioned (all of whom I had personally talked to) are not unique to Penn. It would be appreciated if they would tell me which other colleges have these so that I can apply there in the RD round.</p>

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<p>It could have also been for Drexel or Temple??</p>

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<p>mnm619</p>

<p>You really gotta "move on" - it's almost impossible that they are gonna reverse their decision, so there's no point in going over this endlessly - what part of "no" don't you understand. It doesn't make any difference at this point if they mis-read your essay or they didn't like which side you parted your hair on or whatever. If it's for the reason you suspected earlier (that they don't like kids from conservative Catholic schools who they think will demonstrate in front of their hospital waving around fetuses in glass jars) they sure as hell aren't gonna tell you the real truth anyway. They really don't have to have a real good reason - they have to say no to 70% of the ED applicants no matter what. You were clearly more qualified than the average reject, even more qualified than the average admit, but that doesn't change the answer - no is no. It's their loss - you'll be a great asset to some school. It just wasn't meant to be at Penn. Don't wallow in negativity. Use positive energy to write better essays for your other choices.</p>

<p>Without reading your why Penn essay, it sounds to me like it might have been spread too thin - it would have been better to mention one or two things you really liked than the at least 7 things you mentioned above - I'm guessing that the essay mentioned more that 7.</p>

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<p>"off the beat" rocks my world... they are one of the many amazing a capella groups at penn</p>

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<p>wow, percy skivins, a bit harsh, don't you think?</p>

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<p>A little harsh, but necessary.</p>

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<p>You would be doing the same thing to if you got rejected.</p>

<p>No need for the hashness/rudeness. And it is necessary to do stuff like this sometimes.</p>

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<p>** Accepted WHARTON **
Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT Verbal: 650
[</em>] SAT Math: 750
[<em>] SAT Writing: 610 (essay 10)
[</em>] SAT Total: 2010
[<em>] SAT II: Maths Level 2: 720 and Biology E: 710
[</em>] ACT: N/A
[<em>] AP/IB taken/scores: i'm doing IB diploma so haven't taken any actual examinations yet but i got predicted 40-41 points overall
[</em>] GPA weighted:
[<em>] GPA unweighted: 3.85
[</em>] Rank or % estimate: dunno - guessing top 5-10%</p>

<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Essays: i especially like my "risk" essay - i think that was quite unique & my why Penn essay was ok
[</em>] Teacher Recs: i think they were great cos' i know them both very well
[<em>] Counselor Rec: should be good i think
[</em>] Hook (if any): don't think so - maybe cos' i'm from thailand?!</p>

<p>[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: Thailand
[</em>] School Type: small private school
[<em>] Ethnicity: Thai/Chinese
[</em>] Gender: Female
[<em>] Legacy Yes/No: definitely not
[</em>] Recruited Yes/No:
[li] Important ECs: well I'm the Head Girl of the school, president of the student council, been delegates to many international conferences (Round Square and Global Issues Network), house debates...and so on</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Other Factors: dunno</p>

<p>General Comments/Congratulations/etc: I'm really happy that I got in!! Congrats to all those of u who have been admitted as well!! I'm really looking forward to see all of u guys soon :D and good luck to all the deferred people... hope you guys get in during the RD round. </p>

<p>P.S mnm619 - i'm sure u gonna get into a really great uni afterwards - all the best of luck :)</p>

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<p>Don't know what else they want.</p>

<p>[ size=+1][ color=blue][ b]Decision && School: Deferred, LSM/College [ /b][ /color][ /size]</p>

<p>[ b]Stats:[ /b][ list]
[ *] SAT Verbal: 620
[ *] SAT Math: 660
[ *] SAT Writing: 650
[ *] SAT Total: 1930
[ *] SAT II: Chem 630 Math Level 2 660 Biology M 670
[ *] ACT:
[ *] AP/IB taken/scores: AP Human Geography 4, IB Math Methods SL, IB Psychology SL, IB English HL, IB Chemistry HL, IB Biology HL, IB ab initio German
[ *] GPA weighted: dont have one
[ *] GPA unweighted: dont have one
[ *] Rank or % estimate: top 3%</p>

<p>[ /list][ b]Subjective:[ /b][ list]
[ *] Essays: Was good!
[ *] Teacher Recs: Good
[ *] Counselor Rec:... she wouldn't let me see...
[ *] Hook (if any): Legacy</p>

<p>[ /list][ b]Location/Person:[ /b][ list]
[ *] State or Country: India
[ *] School Type: International
[ *] Ethnicity: Indian
[ *] Gender: Female
[ *] Legacy Yes/No: Yes
[ *] Recruited Yes/No: No
[ *] Important ECs: 2004 AAU U.S. National Champion in Artistic Gymnastics, 2004 Florida State Champ, 2003 Junior Orange Bowl 2nd place champ, 2003 Gasparilla Uneven bars Champion. I've been featured on TV twice.</p>

<p>Numerous awards in watercolor painting.</p>

<p>Playing classical piano for 8 years</p>

<p>Hospital ER volunteer</p>

<p>Dancing at the highest level of jazz-ballet possible</p>

<p>Volunteered as a female gymnastics coach and dance instructor</p>

<p>Was invited to the conference in Pune to discuss peace issues over Kashmir</p>

<p>[ /list][ b]Other Factors:[ /b] I was born at UPenn hospital, dammit. :D</p>

<p>[ b]General Comments/Congratulations/etc:[ /b] I was deferred.</p>