Official UVA Transfer Thread--Fall 2013

<p>@tndud hehe I’m having calculus class and I can’t focus because of all the anxiety I’m getting from this decision process. Haha</p>

<p>am i the only one that doesn’t want them to come out tmrw?!~</p>

<p>You might be the only one estara :)</p>

<p>I just really need to know so I can start making future plants lol.</p>

<p>@transfersoph</p>

<p>ye me either
im dying of calculus it’s just a life destroyer
i mean i know how to solve those kinds of problems but when it comes to a problem for 30 points, one small mistake takes 10 or more points. i made really silly mistakes on two problems and i got like 75 or something.
my professor graduated from stanford and got ph.d from MIT so i think he’s damn smart but the way he teaches and his problems make me completely dumb
if im accpected to uva and any other schools tomorrow, i will ask the admission people if i can withdraw from calculus 2, which i think i can, and then i will retake it after transferring. Even if my current average is B, i must get A- at least for self-satisfaction.
i don’t wanna see B- or B on my transcript</p>

<p>Seta, I also appreciate your research, but you must consider a few things. One being that 46% of undergrads being from NOVA is only applicable to first time freshmen, and thus not useful for us as transfers. You go forth to say, nearly half are from NOVA, that too is only true for first years, and again, not applicable. All we can determine is that those from the vccs system have an advantage. </p>

<p>You may have a case if we were applying as freshmen, but even then there are a few things you should note. As you stated, NOVA’s NVCC has the option of obtaining a degree from UVA without ever physically going to UVA. This option, to my knowledge, is not available at any other community college. As such, UVA’s matriculation counts the students from NOVA who transfer physically to UVA + those who are earning their bachelors at NVCC. Because other Virginia areas do not have this double count, NOVA’s percentage is elevated disproportionally to the actual physical transfers to UVA that we are concerned about. But again, good research…</p>

<p>Pete, not having business ex. curriculars will not count against you in the admissions process. McIntire is cemented in the philosophy that its students be well rounded and exposed to liberal arts before getting the practical business knowledge. The school is more concerned with your potential to lead in your curriculars, school, and community. As long as you were able to voice your impact in your ec’s you will be fine.</p>

<p>wait so was it only last year where they heard back earlier or should we expect decisions tomoro as well</p>

<p>@tndud I totally agree with you! My calculus teacher is a genius. But the thing is he thinks we are all geniuses as well just because we are in the honor class. And he teaches the chapter so briefly. T_T his exams are hard and I almost cried while I was doing one of them. Lol</p>

<p>@pete77 where are you coming from? reading these makes me glad i’m done with my calc pre-reqs…</p>

<p>GCC, located in Fredericksburg Estara.</p>

<p>roussnrob,
Actually I need you to relook at the facts. I have them right in the first place. 46% of all undergraduates are from northern Virginia including transfers and first years, and then on the transfer faq (concerning only transfer students) it says vccs (Virginia community college system) makes up over half of the incoming student body. </p>

<p>Also the BIS agreement I mentioned is irrelevant to the number of those transferring into the school keeping up with the matriculation and proportions as I state. How they factor in to my point is the number of those with a degree in general from UVA and NOVA is much much much larger than any other community college. </p>

<p>I will repeat a point I made earlier, this is not to say that NOVA students have it better or have it worse, that they have something that others don’t to show for it’s effective separate schooling experience. As I established at the top of page 18. </p>

<p>Good luck when results come in</p>

<p>facts again:
[E19:</a> Fall Headcount: Percentage of In-State and Out-of-State Students](<a href=“http://research.schev.edu/enrollment/E19_Report.asp]E19:”>E19: Fall Headcount: Percentage of In-State and Out-of-State Students)</p>

<p>^^for this one click on the scroll down box that says “List All Public Four-Years” and change it to “University of Virginia”. Next Click on the scroll box labeled “First-time in college” and change it to “Undergraduate”. Finally click “Update!” to the bottom left
What you will see is the x axis headings “Percentage Undergraduate from NOVA” second to the end. Under that heading is the label 47% indicating 47 Percent of all Undergraduate from nova (nova standing for northern Virginia NOT northern Virginia community college). </p>

<p>[Transfer</a> Students Frequently Asked Questions | Office of Undergraduate Admission](<a href=“http://www.admission.virginia.edu/transfer/faq#VCCS]Transfer”>http://www.admission.virginia.edu/transfer/faq#VCCS)</p>

<p>On this one the question is asked: “How many students from Virginia Community Colleges do you take?” The response: “Nearly half of our 500 enrolling fall transfers will be coming from a VCCS school”</p>

<p>So you’re point: “you may have a point if you applying as a freshmen…” is completely off base when I have clearly been speaking about transfer students and you have done well to agree and validate that my research was conclusive in that acceptance is related to northern Virginia and community college.</p>

<p>Just to reiterate I don’t contend that other schools are fine, It is statistically shown that it is not harder for a Nvcc student to go to UVA than any other community college</p>

<p>Seta, if we’re both accepted lets join or create a debate club of some sort. But lets again, relook at the facts. </p>

<p>Your research proves one thing, using 2012 as an example, NOVA accounts for 47% of total instate undergraduates. But I argue this is simply a result of there being an advantage in first time freshmen admissions. We both agree, that for freshmen there seems to be an advantage in being a NOVA student, correct? Well this surplus of NOVA 1st years become 2nd years, third years, and so forth. The influx of NOVA’s numbers stem primarily from those students who applied as first years direct out of highschool. Because your research does not look at transfer statistics as its own seperate entity, we can not conclude the NOVA first time freshmen advantage applies to NOVA transfer students. </p>

<p>To prove the NOVA advantage applies to NVCC transfers you would have to find data that differentiates transfer UVA students from all others. That data must then blatantly show an disproportional advantage to Nova community colleges. Then we must look at these numbers in accordance to that individual school’s population, then and only then, can we say NOVA has an advantage that applies to us as transfer applicants. </p>

<p>Because the headcount data is skewed with the freshman advantage, we can determine the NVCC transfer advantage to be inconclusive. From our data, an individual NVCC student is neither at an advantage or disadvantage as any other student within the vccs system when applying as a transfer to the University of VA. </p>

<p>The BIS is also relevant because those who are enrolled in its program are considered UVA undergraduates. Unless you have a source that states otherwise, we can determine that all students whom are earning a UVA undergraduate degree are counted as UVA undergraduate students. This includes the NVCC BIS program of students whom are not physically transferring, further boosting the NOVA numbers.</p>

<p>Also, when citing sources be sure to cite simply the facts. In reference to the transfer faqs, you say “it says vccs makes up over half of the incoming student body,” when it actually says that vccs students make up nearly half of the incoming student body, which changes its meaning entirely. From this page, if you were to click on the broad term “Transfer Students” you will find that it says, “a third of whom come from the Virginia Community College System.” This will make the final number closer to 33% than the >50% that you implied. While this does not tie into our discussion directly, it should serve as a friendly reminder to bring only reputable, relevant statistics to the table. </p>

<p>Today’s the big day, provided they are on schedule. Good luck to you as well Seta! Im hoping to at least get waitlisted; we will see how the cards fall.</p>

<p>^provide they’re on the schedule we made up on this forum*</p>

<p>Apparently they sent out an email last year on Wednesday saying the decision would be early (Friday). Since we didn’t receive notification, I’m speculating it’s not today. ;)</p>

<p>@Geo674, what I heard is that last year applicants received the notification email around 11 a.m that Friday, so I guess we still have chance to know the results today.</p>

<p>Provided they are on the usual schedule confirmed by a uva director of transfer admissions… I was told their goal was always the Friday before may 1st for the reasons mentioned earlier. They do allow themselves that buffer of u to 5/1 in case they get behind schedule…</p>

<p>Please post if anyone gets any updates!!!</p>

<p>I am on the waitlist, which is what I expected. So you admitted McIntire students, kindly decline your spot and open up a space for me :slight_smile: … Good Luck Everyone!..</p>

<p>How do you know you’re on the wait list? 0.0</p>

<p>Wait am I missing something here? How did you find out roussnrob?</p>