<p>I have a question about the timing of applying early decision to Brown for a recruited athlete. My child has an official visit scheduled at the end of September. Will my child be asked to apply early decision, if wanted for the team and should the application be ready to go? At what point (during the OV?) could or should my child ask for a likely letter? Brown happens to be my child’s first choice school but if my child applies early decision, without a likely letter, wouldn’t that risk the opportunity of applying early decision at another Ivy should Brown admissions say no? When do these likely letters arrive relative to the ED notifications?</p>
<p>There’s a specialty topic for athletic recruiting under the college admissions forum. They will be able to help you with your questions about OV’s and LL’s specific to your sport. The timing is a little different for each sport.</p>
<p>If Brown is your students first choice why would they/you want to apply early decision anywhere else? Maybe early action, but not early decision.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for the help! And the only reason not to immediately apply ED at Brown despite it being my child’s absolute first choice is that if a likely letter is not promised and my child applies to Brown ED anyway, it would not be possible to apply ED to another Ivy (prereads pending) if an OV and more admissions support is promised. So we’ll just hope that there are not more recruits than spots available at this Brown OV and that admissions support/likely letter is offered.</p>
<p>OSAMOM- (1) there are usually more recruits brought in than spots; (2)if your child is an outstanding athlete, the coach will tell you at the OV that you have full support - but if there are athletes ahead of your child, you may have to wait to find out if you have full support. (3) there is no admissions support other than the full support given to the LL. some coaches try to make it sound like they can give other admissions support to get you to apply ED without LL. The coach gets only so many spots and that’s it. (4) if the coach offers full support and asks your child to submit application for a LL, you can have the review done before Nov. 1 so that if the application is denied you could still apply ED elsewhere. That’s actually the whole point of the LL - to let the athlete with multiple options know earlier at a time when they can chose among competing options</p>
<p>Thanks, Maria. So now I get it…likely letters arrive soon enough that if they don’t come, and there’s bad news from admissions, my child could apply to another ivy ED. In any case, my child was told this OV was for the top recruits. We’ll arrive with common application and Brown supplement completed and ready to go, ED, if by chance the coach offers a spot on the team and a LL</p>
<p>We submitted the app when we got back from the OV (we needed the guidance counselor’s help pulling together the recommendations, transcripts, etc). The coach offers support, not a LL. When the coach offers support, he can submit your ED application to the admissions office for an early review. If the early review of your ED application is good, they send you a letter saying that although they are not allowed to officially admit you, you are “likely” to be admitted in December. If the early review does not go well, I assume you get a rejection letter or a call from the coach. It takes about 10 days - they have ED apps from a lot of sports teams to review. After a week or so, you can check with the coach to see how its going.
GOOD LUCK! The process is stressful, but then the you are done!</p>
<p>How often are athletes who have made it through the admissions preread, then the OV, and then submitted to admissions with coach support rejected?</p>
<p>And one more question, Maria (thanks for being so helpful): when you say the coach submits the application, do you mean my child gives the materials to coach for submission or does my child just submit online?</p>
<p>osas: coach “flags” the recruits app – informing admissions that this one is requested for early read. Your kid applies online through the normal channels. </p>
<p>The coach, before offering support, knows not to give support to someone that’s going to need to be shoe-horned to meeting the school’s standards. I would say it’s rare that once a student is advised to submit early for a pre-read, that a rejection follows. That would have to be one inexperienced coach.</p>
<p>I suppose it’s possible that a recruit is very marginal, admit-wise. In that circumstance, I think the coach would be forthright and communicate such with the recruit and still offering to support the application. That would just be good business-sense.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>On the admissions/athletic recruiting forum, they have been throwing around numbers like 80% of apps with full support receive admissions. I only know of one case though where the applicant didn’t get accepted, and it was a homeschooled student - which always presents special admissions circumstances (the applicant was great, it was a loss for Brown).
I agree the coach should have a good idea before you even apply if you will be accepted. There must be some cases where people withhold info from the coach (eg. a suspension or particularly bad grade). Just make sure you have good recommendations, complete the essays, and no red flags.<br>
We also know kids who thought with some coach support (ie, coach said apply and I’ll put in a good word - but not using a spot) they would get in - and put it up on Facebook. Sadly, that kind of coach support isn’t the same, and it was terrible when they were rejected.
Wait for the letter from admissions before letting your kid put anything up on FB (or even tell his friends) - no matter how sure the coach sounds.</p>
<p>And don’t tell the other coaches “no” until you get your LL. Keep stringing them along.</p>
<p>Usually if one Ivy wants you then it is more than likely there are more Ivies interested especially if you are at top of academic index.</p>
<p>My child had a wonderful OV to Brown this weekend and was asked to apply ED; coach will ask for a likely letter. Last night, as soon as we returned from the airport, my child submitted the application. Any idea how long before we hear from admissions?</p>
<p>Well, ED decisions come out near mid December – that’ll be the official offer. However, coach may want to get a Likely Letter into your hands before – to non-equivocally tell you his/her intentions. Congrats. Hope your son enjoys Brown!</p>
<p>osasmom, Congratulations on such a great OV, and such positive feedback from the coach! The ED acceptance letter is the official offer of admission; however, the LLs can be sent starting the 1st October. Now that your child’s application is complete and submitted, your child may receive the LL from Brown within the next couple of weeks. Fortunately for the parent and child’s stress level (!), Brown typically has a pretty quick turnaround where those are concerned. Short of any academic disasters this semester or getting arrested, you can rest assured that the LL is the closest thing possible to an acceptance. It is very unusual to have a LL rescinded.</p>
<p>Thank you, mayhew. She’s a bundle of happy nerves right now. Glad to hear the turnaround might be quick.</p>
<p>Just retrieving that LL from the mailbox was a fantastic moment that I’ll never forget! As Maria2013 says, it is very stressful but then you are done. What team will your child be joining?</p>
<p>mayhew: I’ll go out on a limb and say that no LL was ever rescinded except for the extreme cases you cited (academic meltdown, fraudulent credentials, felonies). Congrats osas, again.</p>
<p>We waited a week or so after submitting the ED app and then emailed the coach. He was able to check on its status and let us know when we would be hearing from admissions. They pretty much have to let you know before Nov. 1 so you can ED another school if it doesn’t work out. The coach should have already checked your numbers with his admissions contact and since you are getting full support, it should go through. Good luck (and early congrats)! My kid is super happy with Brown and with her team. Let us know how it goes.</p>