Official "we don't have a chance" thread but we still love Brown!

<p>hehe. Thanks!
I had an epiphany while reading those "I know I have a chance but I just want you to see my stats" threads (lol)
seriously, nobody can give you a chance but you can mope around this thread about your "low" stats & what-not! (lol)</p>

<p>newjerseykid- I soo don't think you have to have a hook or that "special" ingredient, bc when you ask the students that get in "how did you get in?", half of them have no idea how to answer you (Lol) most likely they were shocked when they did. </p>

<p>okay, so I had to check my countdown!:</p>

<p>53 days
1286 hours
77201 minutes
4632067seconds</p>

<p>8:19 AM (eastern time)</p>

<p>I just think it's the anxiety!...I want to know soo bad..</p>

<p>superwoman: i wanna know so bad too!!
i'm seriously gonna be sitting at my computer screen when the day comes..
pressing refresh over and over right after school even though i know the decision comes later in the evening.
ugh!! march please come now!</p>

<p>hah yeaa.
But before we know it will be here.
& Seniors around the world whom applied RD will have one month to make that BIG decision of who to send the deposit too! Ahh...my April vaca. is going to be crazy! (lol)</p>

<p>still counting down!</p>

<p>:)</p>

<p>Location: Canada
Gender: girly
Race: Asian
School: Private, admission-competitive
GPA: 92%
Rank: 10/160
ACT: N/A
SAT I: CR 720 M 770 W 640 (wasn't awake enough for the essay...)
SAT IIs: Math 1- 740 Bio E -? Lit - ?
AP/IB: IB diploma - HL English a1, history, visual arts, SL bio, math, spanish ab.</p>

<p>Junior: 90 average
Senior: 92 average </p>

<p>ECs:
accordion (grade 6 diploma), piano (grade 9 diploma after four years + scholarship + 13 awards at music festivals)
visual arts + photography stuff
badminton; school team, recreational, club, school club</p>

<p>Volunteer Work:
odd stuff here and there, mostly art and music festivals
founded a community service project targetting adolescent immigrants in unstable families</p>

<p>Work/Research Experience (in the summer):</p>

<p>-interned for a local artist
-trained for badminton with an ex-national coach
-part-time jobs selling shoes.. haha</p>

<p>Essays: like it or hate it
Teacher Recs: one good, one meh
Counselor Rec: no idea
Why brown essay: pretty weak. </p>

<p>sigh.. </p>

<p>countdown until admissions decision: </p>

<p>51 days</p>

<p>I love Brown and Columbia, but I've known pretty much since I decided to apply that the odds are (especially with my luck) highly unlikely that I'm actually going to get in. Not that I'm not qualified or anything, but because I realize the vast number of other applicants, who, like me, are also qualified or even more so. I decided to apply anyway on the off chance that I actually did...</p>

<p>NJ = me too for all (no book, no hook, etc)...except I have bad English grades frosh and senior year, . Which is especially bad since I APPLIED for English hahahahaha. I also wrote in the essay that I was interested in math too, which I happen to be much better at...(woot woot 5 on BC last year). I tried to play my hook being passionate about combining math and english in some interdisciplinary madness...but most likely failed. STILL I have my fingers crossed for myself and ALL of us on this thread!</p>

<p>@stacy, the reason you applied to Brown and Columbia = the reason I applied to 8 of the 13 schools I applied to. When throwing darts, it's best to throw as many as you can...</p>

<p>heygirlhey- Thanks! I got my fingers crossed too! & plus, i dont think hooks help very much..i mean im a URM buh..i dont think it will help me much : (</p>

<p>Darnit! April 1st is soo soon! Deep down inside i cant wait buht im kinda nervous (biting nails)</p>

<p>soo what is everybody doing to supress the anxiety? lol, im reading nonsense or every possible nonacademic book i can get my hands on lol.</p>

<p>conquestor: No I don't go to Churchill. I go to another school for middle-income families hehe.</p>

<p>superwoman: I haven't had my interview yet. Two of my friends already got theirs a bit after Chinese New Year. >"< Am I rejected already?</p>

<p>I dunno. My class rank is not as high as that person's. My grades are slightly below hers. All I like are swimming and music. I really reveal my fit for Brown, but I don't know whether they'll buy it. The only thing I have that sets us apart is the fact that I don't do things for college (i.e. passion). She created tons of clubs and did tons of fundraising and took tons of math contests for college admission purpose. However, she did excel in math. I dunno lah. I'll know in... some 50 days.</p>

<p>Brown applicant pool is up by... 20%+? ... O.o</p>

<p>The only "hook" I guess I have is my ethnicity (Brown probably has never received a single applicant from an Atayal, but Atayal is Asian anyway... I think it's an "un-hook".)</p>

<p>hahaha, "un-hook", good one lmao. umm, as for the interview i think you should call ASAP, i think they are trying to interview every student, soo if it doesnt work out when you call, at least Brown can see you tried! Good Luck!</p>

<p>p.s. i hope you get an interview!</p>

<p>officially joining after screwing up first semester. yay!</p>

<p>I really wouldn't put much worry into standardized tests if the rest of your application is strong. I got accepted and I had SATs of 1800 (I was really nervous and one time I actually started shaking because of an overdose of Red Bull, lol...) Apart from that, my application was pretty much like yours. Good GPA, strong academics, a lot of extra curricular. I would really put up more importance in your essays because you have an opportunity to express yourself and show how you really are. After all they are trying to find people who would fit well in their class. Also, I do not like standardized tests too much because some people just do not do well in them and they can be brilliant in the rest. Cross your fingers and wish for the best.</p>

<p>intunecos- Thanks! I'm crossing my fingers (lol), hoping I'm one of those people they want! If not, it's not the end of the world. I just want to be happy at the next place I spend four years of my life at lol. Thanks again, I'm definetly wishing for the best for everyone on this thread! Class of 09, woot woot!</p>

<p>Intunecos you are my idol! I agree with what u said</p>

<p>Btw did u have any additional hooks? Just curious</p>

<p>i put a lot of effort into my essays, seeing as how, aside from an interview, this is how the adcoms will really get to see how/who i am. i also applied to the plme & expressed a strong desire to become a part of the health field in my essays. hopefully they dont come off as a load of bs lol -_-.</p>

<p>Mmm... hooks...
Well I came to the US when I was 11. In my essays I showed how I love Ancient History (Egyptian history for example). One thing that really really helped me were my recommendations. One of my teachers said that I was one of the best students she had ever had and wrote about how I made her laugh. The other teacher said that I was very passionate for history and math. Oh! my interview went great. I am grateful that my interviewer was very interested and we ended up talking for several hours. He told me he was going to write a good recommendation for me. Well, apart from that I guess a little luck does help. One thing that everyone has to have in mind is that if something is meant to happen, it will happen; just try to stay positive throughout the whole thing. Also, I know its quite obvious, stay true to yourself.</p>

<p>That's some good advice. Thanks! I'm a definetly big believe in if its supposed to happen then its supposed to, because I almost flaked and didn't apply to Brown. The weekend of the 17th I believe it was I went down to Rhode Island to go see my cousin, we passed by the school bc she wanted a tour, omg, I was totally convinced I wanted to go to Brown, the campus and the city near reeled me in! Yes, it was pretty horrible walking up that hill but the campus was soo beautiful. Suddenly I had all this regret about not applying and I already passed the deadline..so I knew I was screwed! I went home and since I was going to apply to Brown my essays were finished and my recommendations were already done..so I went on the common app and submitted, my heart was beating and I was so scared! I wrote them an email about it and how I changed my mind last minute because I didn't have the confidence that I would be a competitive applicant. I sent everything else in and proceeded to wait for what they would say. This is what I told the admissions office which was a half truth because the same weekend I sent it in I ended with a family emergency but I couldn't tell them that..it would sound like baloney..so I told them the other side of my reason for applying so late. They finally wrote me an email saying they already have everything for me of course I can send my other materials..I almost cried! That's when I felt like if it wasn't meant for me to apply so many days after the deadline they could have easily not accepted my application but idk..I'm feeling lucky already! :)</p>

<p>my school had an ED accept this year and if i recall the kid only had like an 1850 on the SATs. my interviewer (who worked in the admissions office,) told me that SATs count for even less than the interview. that's not to say that higher scores don't help, but they're not the end all.</p>

<p>that's why you can't read too much into those ridiculous chance me threads. brown's admission policy is very holistic. how/what you can contribute to the brown environment is much more important than a 2400.</p>

<p>not to mention for every 2400 brown accepts they can take some obscene number of students with lower (1800-2000) scores and still maintain their very high averages.</p>

<p>That's true. Thanks for shedding some light on that, I think it's just hard to compare myself to other outstanding applicants when my standardized test scores stand in the way. Thanks anyway! :)</p>

<p>that sat stuff is made me feel a lot better. im a horrible standardized test taker.
but since they take a holistic approach i might have a better shot than i thought... but you never know..</p>

<p>its almost only a month away.. sorta :)</p>

<p>ontheradio-So true! I'm feeling the same way. I just checked on the custom countdown and we have 39 days! Wooh, by next week it will be less then a month away :)</p>

<p>yay!</p>