<p>my family's on welfare... what's wrong with being poor</p>
<p>not my fault you didn't get in</p>
<p>
[quote]
ephemeral, that's why I qualified it as fiction writers. Journalist/editor ECs did seem to fare much better.
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</p>
<p>I find it hard to believe that this particular subtlety would make or break you. Sometimes it's dumb luck.</p>
<p>She's just saying fiction writers didn't do well in the admissions process. She's not saying it's because they were fiction writers that they were deferred.</p>
<p>Thanks tkd2009! seriously that made me happy :). There were so many amazingly qualified candidates though</p>
<p>lol @ iluvyale, thanks for brightening this uber-depressing thread.</p>
<p>Decision: Accepted</p>
<p>Objective:
SAT I (breakdown): 1950
ACT: didnt take
SAT II: 650 on Spanish, 800 on math I
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.1 (I really screwed up junior and sophomore year)
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 17 out of 109
AP (place score in parenthesis): 3 on AP calcalus, 4 on Spanish language, 4 on prob and stat, 5!!!! on us gov
IB: none
Senior Year Course Load: logic and reasoning, accounting III, Calc BC, computer programming two, ecology, Ap US history
Major Awards: national debate award, african American national achievement award, basketball all-regional, captain
Subjective:
Extracurriculars: debate club president, basketball captain, African American association president, break dancing club founder, diversity club founder,
Job/Work Experience: various restaurants :/
Volunteer/Community service: community organizer, campaign volunteer with barack obama (wooooooo!!!! :)) , inner city tutor at Detroit Southeastern
Essays: rocking essays, counselor said best shes read in a while.
Teacher Recommendation: i read one, which was effusive and very me. other one is probably positive but less descriptive.
Counselor Rec: realllllly goooood.
Additional Rec: none.
Interview: interviewer loved me: called me spirited and said I was very bright
Other
Applied for Financial Aid?: yes. I think full ride because my family is not very wealthy.
Intended Major: African American studies, mathematics
State (if domestic applicant): Michigan
Country (if international applicant): america
School Type: public school, really crappy one
Ethnicity: black
Gender: female
Income Bracket: less than 40,000
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): black, first generation college</p>
<p>Reflection
Strengths: really spirited, hard working, diligent.
Weaknesses: I have a crappy school, and my test scores didnt really reflect what I think I know.
Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: I deserve it. :)</p>
<p>i like your attitude, chocolategurrrl. congratulations! pray for me to join you this coming spring (RD decisions).</p>
<p>;)</p>
<p>^ Your (chocolategurrrl) posts seem suspicious to me. i just wonder why yale would admit a 1950/3.1 because they're obviously not choosing based on race (thewerg and princessbell for example). plus how did you already get into stanford and yale? whatever. if you're serious, good for you, you must have had some really stellar essays. i hope you didn't violate scea protocol though. because that would be slimy.</p>
<p>^ trolllllllll</p>
<p>...hookem168 I find that really mean of you to say. I'm pretty familiar with the college admissions process and the thing is with SCEA is that the rules don't really apply if there are financial considerations involved, as seems the case with chocolategurl. Maybe she applied early to Yale, and after sending everything in, found that stanford offered more in financial assistance...don't just assume the worst in people...</p>
<p>Well, you can't apply early to both Yale and Stanford, so this does seem suspicious. Does Stanford send out likely letters?
On the other hand, I don't think these stats are completely impossible. If this is a URM, first-generation college, from a weak public school in Detroit, and if the grades show a substantial upward trend, this could be true.</p>
<p>Decision:Accepted
Objective:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I (breakdown):1600/2360
[</em>] ACT: not taken
[<em>] SAT II: M2-800 Mol Bio-800 Lit-730
[</em>] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 4.0
[<em>] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 3/300
[</em>] AP (place score in parenthesis):5's on Bio, BC calc, stats, english lang, and a 4 on us history
[<em>] IB (place score in parenthesis):
[</em>] Senior Year Course Load: Calc III, linear algebra, ap lit, ap span, ap euro, ap chem (online), econ
[<em>] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.):
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[</em>] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Swimming, academic team (captain), cross country
[<em>] Job/Work Experience:
[</em>] Volunteer/Community service: Volunteered on the same floor of the hospital for four years
[<em>] Summer Activities:summer programs at duke, johns hopkins, and NYLC
[</em>] Essays: Great! I think they got me in
[<em>] Teacher Recommendation: One unbelievably good, one great
[</em>] Counselor Rec: ehh
[<em>] Additional Rec:none
[</em>] Interview: Wonderful, I had it really early too
[/ul]Other[ul]
[<em>] Applied for Financial Aid?:no
[</em>] Intended Major: econ and math
[<em>] State (if domestic applicant): GA
[</em>] Country (if international applicant):
[<em>] School Type: Public (crappy)
[</em>] Ethnicity: Hispanic/caucasian
[<em>] Gender:M
[</em>] Income Bracket:300,000+
[<em>] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): URM
[/ul]Reflection[list]
[</em>] Strengths: Essays and reccomendations
[<em>] Weaknesses: EC's
[</em>] Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: My essays reccomendations and interview</p>
<p>Late statistics of an Acceptee.....</p>
<p>[ b]Objective:[ /b][ list]
[ *] SAT I (CR 630, W 630, M 710)
[ *] ACT:N/A
[ *] SAT II:(Maths IIC 790, Physics 770, Chemistry 770
[ *] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): N/A
[ *] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable):N?A
[ *] AP (place score in parenthesis):N/A
[ *] IB (place score in parenthesis):Results not out yet, predicted could be 40+
[ *] Senior Year Course Load:Definnitely the most challenging available....
[ *] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): Best debator of the Year 2003 (division level), numerous best speaker Awards for debates and extempore speech competitons. Natioanal Awards for excellent results in the O levels.
[ /list][ b]Subjective:[ /b][ list]
[ *] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis):Volunatry teaching English at a local primary school in Swaziland, Teaching SOS children basic computer skills, Buliding and maintainig hiking trails in Swaziland, Teaching basic Mathematics and Computer skills to Rehabilitated adults in SWaziland, Cricket captain since junior school, Registered for the national Cricket team of Swaziland, Senior Badminton Coach, Foundinf coach of the first evr Girls Cricket club in Swaziland, Working wid Red Cross in Bangladesh at Flood relief camps, Presdent of the School debating club and few other minor ones....(cant remember some of them)
[ *] Job/Work Experience:Internship at an International hotel as Assistant Banqueting Manager, Accountant at Export and Import firm, teacher
[ *] Volunteer/Community service: Included in the extra curriculars
[ *] Summer Activities: travelling, reading and doing random part time jobs
[ *] Essays:pretty good and personal!
[ *] Teacher Recommendation:Dont know, but should be good.
[ *] Counselor Rec:Dont know either, but maintained a good relationship wid him
[ *] Additional Rec:none
[ *] Interview:none
[ /list][ b]Other[ /b][ list]
[ *] Applied for Financial Aid?:Yes! received full aid.
[ *] Intended Major:Astrophysics/Mechanical Engineerng and Economics...
[ *] State (if domestic applicant):
[ *] Country (if international applicant):Bangladesh
[ *] School Type: United World Colleges, so respected worldwide.
[ *] Ethnicity:Bangladeshi
[ *] Gender:Male
[ *] Income Bracket:
[ *] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.):
[ /list][ b]Reflection[ /b][ list]
[ *] Strengths:went to a United World College wid Scholarship, showed my enthusiasm abt lyf in my essay!
[ *] Weaknesses: not gr8 SAT I's i guess!
[ *] Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: teachers rec, my essay or my predicted IB grades?
[ /list][ b]General Comments:[ /b] I think the whole app. should seem as a whole thing, i.e. dere should be coherence in the different bits of teh whole application. This is easily achieved if you are honest in your app.</p>
<p>As I pledged to do report the result...</p>
<p>Decision: Rejected</p>
<p>Objective:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I (breakdown): 2300 (770 CR, 800 M, 730 W)
[</em>] ACT: N/A
[<em>] SAT II: Maths IIC 800, Lit 740
[</em>] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.91
[<em>] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): Top decile (actual: top 5% probably)
[</em>] AP (place score in parenthesis): AP Eng. Lang (5), AP Cal AB (5)
[<em>] IB (place score in parenthesis): N/A
[</em>] Senior Year Course Load: AP Eng. Lit., AP Bio, U.S. History, Spanish IV, Band, Jazz Band, Senior Project, AP Cal BC (Self study), AP Music Theory (Self study)
[<em>] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): Some school awards
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[</em>] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Fall Musical/Spring Play (Stage manager, student director, music director), Music Festival, Varsity XC, NHS, Habitat for Humanity, Piano, more music stuff, created/produced/directed/edited own reality show for Senior Project
[<em>] Job/Work Experience: Tutor for a year
[</em>] Volunteer/Community service: Habitat for Humanity
[<em>] Summer Activities: International Thespian Festival
[</em>] Essays: Both very personal. Thought they were pretty good XD
[<em>] Teacher Recommendation: Haven't seen them, but were told they were good.
[</em>] Counselor Rec: Told he wrote a very good one.
[<em>] Additional Rec: Outstanding one from drama teacher who I worked with on productions for two years.
[</em>] Interview: N/A
[/ul]Other[ul]
[<em>] Applied for Financial Aid?: No
[</em>] Intended Major: Theater Studies
[<em>] State (if domestic applicant): N/A
[</em>] Country (if international applicant): U.A.E.
[<em>] School Type: Small Private. Sends 2~4 to Ivies each year.
[</em>] Ethnicity: Asian
[<em>] Gender: Male
[</em>] Income Bracket: $100,000
[<em>] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): None
[/ul]Reflection[ul]
[</em>] Strengths: Unusual Asian? Interested in arts. Essays...
[<em>] Weaknesses: Courseload wasn't strong enough.
[</em>] Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: I definitely think the lack of courseload strength hurt me. And I probably wasn't a standout applicant without any national recognition, etc. I was hoping that Yale would want a technical theatre-oriented Asian male, but guess not. XD
[/ul]General Comments: I was bummed when I first read the letter, but I've taken this as another experience. I never even dreamed of applying to Yale before, and I'm proud of myself for doing so. I still think Yale is a fantastic school, and hopefully will be attending there for grad school. And as cliche as it sounds, I know everything will work out in the end, so no hard feelings.</p>
<p>So congrats to all those accepted! And good luck to all those deferred. And to my fellow rejectees, I'm passing around a bottle of rum. ;)</p>
<p>Decision: Deferred</p>
<p>Objective:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I (breakdown): 790 Math, 790 Verbal, 740 Writing
[</em>] ACT: NA
[<em>] SAT II: 740 Biology M, 790 Physics, 800 History, 730 Literature
[</em>] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 4.0
[<em>] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 2/58
[</em>] AP (place score in parenthesis): Euro: 5, Bio: 5, US Hist: 5, Physics B: 5, Calc AB: 4, English Lit: 5
[<em>] IB (place score in parenthesis): NA
[</em>] Senior Year Course Load: AP Calculus BC, AP US Government, AP Chemistry, AP English Language and Composition, AP Spanish, Religion and Philosophy, PE
[<em>] Major Awards: Distinguished Honors 6 Semesters, NHS, Spanish Honor Society, Model UN Premiere Delegate, Model UN Best Court Brief, AP Scholar With Distinction, National Merit Scholar Semifinalist,
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[</em>] Extracurriculars: Film Club (Founder and President), Ultimate Frisbee Team (Captain), School Newspaper (Editor in Chief), Speech and Debate Club, City Youth Orchestra, Community Service Club (PR Rep), Student Tour Guide, Band, Honor Jazz Band, Madrigal Choir, Church Youth Group, Model UN, Student Council (Secretary), Quiz Bowl Team (Captain)
[<em>] Job/Work Experience: One summer as a golf club caddie, one summer as technology assistant at school
[</em>] Volunteer/Community service: Summer service trip to Mexico, PR Rep of School Community service Club, led the Thanksgiving Food Drive two years, volunteered over summer at Community Health Clinic
[<em>] Summer Activities: Summer Music Camp, Volunteer Work
[</em>] Essays: One about learning to solve the Rubik's Cube, one about learning to connect to people of a different culture through music. Both fairly cliche but well written.
[<em>] Teacher Recommendation: Very glowing, from what I was told.
[</em>] Counselor Rec: Again, I was told it was great.
[<em>] Interview: Went well.
[/ul]Other[ul]
[</em>] Applied for Financial Aid?: No
[<em>] Intended Major: Ethics, Policy, and Economics
[</em>] State: PA
[<em>] School Type: Private, College Prep
[</em>] Ethnicity: White
[<em>] Gender: Male
[</em>] Income Bracket: >100,000
[<em>] Hooks: Experienced Musician, sent in CD of performances on two instruments
[/ul]Reflection[ul]
[</em>] Strengths: Academic performance, leadership.
[<em>] Weaknesses: The CD might not have been THE greatest.
[</em>] Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: Looking back now, there is not particular reason why my application stands out from everyone else's. I had had a lot of great things, but so does everyone!
[/ul]*General Comments: Congratulations to everyone who got accepted. Everyone should be proud of themselves for their hard work. I think we're all going to end up at a good school. *</p>
<p>Has anyone accepted received any information on the Directed Studies program?</p>
<p>Decision: Deferred</p>
<p>Objective:
SAT I (breakdown): 740 Math, 770 Verbal, 770 Writing
ACT: 34
SAT II: Biology M 800
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.87
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 6/309
AP (place score in parenthesis):
IB (place score in parenthesis): French 6
Senior Year Course Load: IB (English, Psychology, Math HL, 20th Century World Topics, Theory of Knowledge, Biology) Drawing
Major Awards: National Merit Scholar Semifinalist
Subjective:
Extracurriculars: Cross-country (4), Track (3), Student Council (4), French Club (4), Earth Club, Model UN, Interact Club, After-school English tutoring
Job/Work Experience: USDA lab intern (2)
Volunteer/Community service: 150+ hours for IB CAS
Summer Activities: Boys State
Essays: One about cross-country, the other fairly standard. Both were cliched though.<br>
Teacher Recommendation: No idea.<br>
Counselor Rec: No idea.
Interview: Didn't have one.<br>
Other
Applied for Financial Aid?: Yes
Intended Major: Biology
State: IL
School Type: Public, 1400 students
Ethnicity: Asian
Gender: Male
Income Bracket: around 80,000
Hooks: No idea
Reflection:
Strengths: Dedication, leadership
Weaknesses: The ESSAYS!
Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: I'm sure there's a million people who are in both Xc and track and are in student council. To be honest, I don't have a super huge hook. </p>
<p>General Comments: Congrats to everyone accepted. Live the dream for those who weren't. Good luck to everyone deferred. And to those rejected, you guys will all get into some amazing college.</p>
<p>Decision: Deferred</p>
<p>Objective:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I (breakdown): W: 740, CR: 700, M: 710, TOTAL: 2150
[</em>] ACT: 32
[<em>] SAT II: Lit: To be determined, took it in Dec., Math II: 710, US Hist: 720
[</em>] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.97 UW, 4.5676 W
[<em>] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 5/316, behind 4 valedictorians
[</em>] AP (place score in parenthesis): Calc AB (4), English Lang (4), US History (4), Euro Hist (4), Physics B (2) so embarrassing, but our teacher was a first year AP physics teacher who doesn't believe in teaching concepts but rather formulas to crunch numbers with :/
[<em>] IB (place score in parenthesis): N/A
[</em>] Senior Year Course Load: AP Calc BC, AP Literature, AP Macroeconomics, AP Biology, Journalism, Tennis/Track
[<em>] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): Um, no major awards in that sense
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[</em>] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Interact Club (Vice Pres), CSF or California Scholarship Federation, similar to NHS (President), Alcyonians (President), ASB (Commissioner of Renaissance), Class Council (Public Relations), Newspaper (Editor-in-chief, news editor)
[<em>] Job/Work Experience: Currently working 2 jobs. I tutor at the school library for min. wage 6 hours a week, have worked all through junior yr and will work through senior year. So I will have had this job for 2 years by June 09! I also am a sales clerk for an antique store.
[</em>] Volunteer/Community service: San Gabriel Children's Center Volunteer Coordinator, Tom Sawyer Camps Counselor, Interact (300+ hours throughout 4 years), Rowland Elementary Afterschool tutor, CAHSEE tutor (CA Exit Exam)
[<em>] Summer Activities: Tom Sawyer Camps counselor, summer school spanish I aide, San Gabriel Children's Center
[</em>] Essays: one is about how getting lost in NY made me break out of my shell, using a coloring metaphor throughout. have been told its very good by AP lit teacher. the other is about an autistic camper I worked with at camp and how he made me grow into an adult.
[<em>] Teacher Recommendation: Excellent! AP Lit teacher commends my intellectual vitality and enthusiasm to learn, calls me one of his best students. AP Calc teacher has only good things to say as well.<br>
[</em>] Counselor Rec: Generic. but pretty much supports the compliments of my other recs
[<em>] Additional Rec: From my AP Bio teacher who I also had soph. year in honors bio. He is in love with me lol. anecdotal kind of rec so it's really good as well, tells adcoms about my class president speech i used for the election and praises a lot.<br>
[</em>] Interview: AMAZING! 4.5 hour interview!!
[/ul]Other[ul]
[<em>] Applied for Financial Aid?: absolutely
[</em>] Intended Major: biology
[<em>] State (if domestic applicant): CA
[</em>] Country (if international applicant): USA
[<em>] School Type: crappy public
[</em>] Ethnicity: asian (vietnamese)
[<em>] Gender: F
[</em>] Income Bracket: 70-75k
[<em>] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): first gen college
[/ul]Reflection[ul]
[</em>] Strengths: recs, job experience, essays?, and maybe my love of community service although i'm not sure it comes across :/
[<em>] Weaknesses: SAT/IIs, ranking looks crappy b/c my class size shrunk since the start of senior year and my one B placed me behind 4 valedictorians. boo! lol
[</em>] Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: i probably wasn't amazing enough to be an SCEAer. not sure i stand out enough :/
[/ul]General Comments: I have come to accept my deferral, and I believe I took it all very well. I'm just very grateful Yale is giving my app a second 'lookover'. I hope I make it RD :/ good luck to all!</p>
<p>Decision: Accepted</p>
<p>Objective:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I: Math 740, CR 740, Writing 740 (Essay 11/12) (stats are rather low, but I did take the SAT sophomore year and left it at that)
[</em>] ACT: 34
[<em>] SAT II: Math 770, Lit 740, Physics 720, French 680
[</em>] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.9
[<em>] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 5%
[</em>] AP (place score in parenthesis): BC Calc (5)
[<em>] IB (place score in parenthesis):
[</em>] Senior Year Course Load: Theory 3, Music History, French V, AP English, Multivariable Calc, US History, Chemistry 2, 20th Century History
[li] Major Awards: None</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Community Service Association (president), Class president, Orchestra, Amnesty International, Environmental Club, Madrigal Club, Choir
[</em>] Job/Work Experience: none
[<em>] Volunteer/Community service: Community Service Association
[</em>] Summer Activities: music camp, long distance education
[<em>] Essays: Common App one was about a personal hero; Yale supplement: how much I hated a subject
[</em>] Teacher Recommendation: English, Math, and French. Strong recommendations
[<em>] Counselor Rec: Strong
[</em>] Additional Rec: none. Sent in 3 academic ones.
[li] Interview: Kicked ass. Interviewer called yesterday to congratulate me. </p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Other[ul]
[<em>] Applied for Financial Aid?: Yes
[</em>] Intended Major: Linguistics
[<em>] State (if domestic applicant): MA
[</em>] School Type: Did both public and private
[<em>] Ethnicity: Asian
[</em>] Gender: Female
[<em>] Income Bracket: -
[</em>] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): None whatsoever.</p>
<p>[/ul]Reflection[ul]
[<em>] Strengths: Essays, transcript (double the number of requirements for graduation), music, leadership positions
[</em>] Weaknesses: Standardized tests
[li] Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: Don't know. </p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]General Comments: To others applying - I got in without any connections whatsoever, as a middle-class Asian girl violinist. I applied on a bit of a whim, deciding on around Oct. 15. And look what happened! See, you can have some faith in the college application process. :) I trust that we shall all end up somewhere that is "right" for each of us.</p>
<p>wow, after looking over all these posts, I'm surprised at how similar the stats/ECs are between the accepted and the deferred. i thought those accepted would stand out more (don't get me wrong! many of those accepted are simply stellar!). Guess the essays matter more than I originally believed....</p>