<p>hey guys
I watch my husband, class of 1972 TO THIS DAY doing this with his work shirts!</p>
<p>Zaph, I never thought much about it, just figured it was one more of his 'quirks' that a compulsively raised son-of-a-German Lutheran pastor would have! I hadn't realized it's USNA's fault!!!!!</p>
<p>It's a riot to watch the contorsions he sometimes goes through to get that shirt just right!</p>
<p>Now....when he gets into his Air Force Blues Uniform...(since he is a Captain in the Air Force's Auxiliary's Civil Air Patrol, and a Commander of a Squadron here in San Diego County...) he uses these really wierd suspenders that attach to his knee socks and run the length of his pant legs. He still does the wierd shirt rolling in the back, but keeps it all as tight as a drum with these suspenders. Does USN do this too?</p>
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<p>Those are shirt stays. I bloody hate them because they are extremely uncomfortable when you sit down, as well as pulling on your shirt all the time. A proper tuck doesn't need them.</p>
<p>You know, I was going to add that doing a tuck in civilian clothes looks kinda........ weird, but now I won't! :D</p>
<p>oh, and by the way....when I was a kid, my dad washed my mouth out with soap for saying 'bloody'. I told him it wasn't a REAL swear word ( I'd already experienced the taste of soap saying "D" and "S", so I thought in my 8 year old high-foluting brain, I'd try British swear words to see if I could get away with it) ...</p>
<p>my dad told me it was, didn't matter if it was in American English, MY HEART knew it was a swear word, so out came the soap ( ahhhhh being raised by a Catholic dad, in a catholic school, in a Catholic home!)</p>
<p>Z....you obstinate, orney self, you
you're incorrigable, stubborn and headstrong</p>
<p>you're also charming
that's why I'm sending you cookies, no matter what</p>
<p>all is forgiven</p>
<p>peskemom
:-)</p>
<p>p.s. I can count on 1 hand the number of times my precious husband has sworn. I can count on 1 hand the number of times I swear in a day. Go figure. ( my swearing isn't always out loud, I might add)</p>
<p>Hey Z....I heard you speak Spanish with your Cuban accent...it would make swearing in Spanish even funnier sounding. I do know some Spanish and many members of my family are bilingual, so I get to recognize the swear words. </p>
<p>I didn't tell you my high school Spanish teacher was from Cuba, so when I first learned spanish it was with a Cuban accent as well. Now living here in SoCA...it's back to hearing alot of indigenous Mexican Indian spanish...a totally different animal than 'real Castillain Spanish', I assure you!</p>
<p>so how does one say "Bloody hell" in Spanish, Z?</p>
<p>Well, let's just say there is no literal translation, and that the coloquialism for the same sentiment is not printable here, even in Spanish. </p>
<p>If you hung around any Cubans at all, you've heard it, trust me. We use it as often as people use "Damn", but that's not what it really means. ;)</p>
<p>On the subject of 'bloody hell', my son-in-law is from a family of linguists...his grandparents were the first contact missionaries to a jungle tribe in Peru...his parents were missionaries in Indonesia. At the moment my son-in-law is in seminary in Wisconsin after completing 4 years of college in a Classical Great Books education program and another year at UCLA in Greek and Latin.</p>
<p>So I asked him how to say "bloody Hell' in Greek. </p>
<p>He told me that actually, the phrase "Bloody Hell" comes from "By our Lady"...a medieval reference to the Virgin Mary. How it got corrupted he doesn't know, but THAT is an interesting tidbit for us all on this thread.</p>
<p>Can't exactly imagining the Virgin Mary swearing from looking at the oil paintings through the centuries. But she WAS a Jewish mother and probably THOUGHT about swearing when Jesus was lost in the temple as a 12 year old and it took 3 days to find him....or when she was trying to get near him while he was preaching and Jesus demurred....or at the crucifixion when she saw what the soldiers were up to....Now, now, I'm a devout Christian, not just trying to be cynical here. Mary was a living flesh and blood mother and I can only imagine her experiences were no fun at times.</p>
<p>So....how does one say " By your Lady Hell???" It just doesn't work as well....</p>