<p>Think MCAT may be low for UNC as an OOS student. My son had a 3.8/3.8/39 and was a UNC alum and Morehead Scholar and didn’t get in. Not sure I’d waste the app money there.</p>
<p>UTSW and Baylor will need a higher MCAT but UT Houston would be a good match.</p>
<p>U wash may be near 30, not wash u</p>
<p>Baylor gets a lot of state funding. So they are close to 75% or more in state.</p>
<p>Wash U median score is 38. U Wash is 31.</p>
<p>NYU
Boston University
Einstein
Drexel
Temple
UPitt</p>
<p>^All places that I was accepted to with very similar scores. The first three would likely be his “match” schools, while UPitt might be a slight reach (Drexel/Temple would be more like “safeties,” though there’s never a guarantee). Again, though, his GPA is stellar.
The 10 in bio might get his app overlooked at some of the top-tier schools, but otherwise tell him to apply early to ~15 schools and he’ll get in somewhere. :)</p>
<p>Others in the NE to consider:
GWU
Jefferson
Mount Sinai/Columbia/Cornell (all in Manhattan, probably slight reaches w/ MCAT score)
Gtown (if you can think up really good reasons why he wants to go there - long secondary!)
Penn State (50% OOS)
etc.</p>
<p>I’d recommend not wasting $$ on Georgetown. Large number of very connected applicants in their annual pool skews what the applicant pool looks like. If you are not connected and don’t have both a high MCAT and GPA your chances are very slim. Far better options out there.</p>
<p>GWU is certainly well within your S’s stats but my only concern is the housing issue for D.C schools- riding the Metro every day and living in Virginia is probably what he’d have to do- for that reason our D is prob not looking at GWU or Georgetown. I would apply to Einstein, BU, Albany Med or Hofstra on Long Island instead. housing is also a problem with some Phila schools- 1st year housing is guaranteed but after that you’re looking for a place to live in the city- can get costly. Even with acceptances to other schools, your state school seems like a great choice.</p>
<p>not a super test taker!?!? The kid got a 2280 SAT and 33 ACT, you should be proud of that . Be practical, that’s a really good score </p>
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<p>If “Loyola Chicago”, I would add U of Chicago and Northwestern. However, if you add Nrthwestern, then the logical choice is to include Case Western as they are accepting the same people (for most part, not as a rule). But again, if you include Case Western, why not other OH schools? This is just a suggestion which may be completely out as there are many south schools on the list, but Loyola triggerred this chain in my head.</p>
<p>*not a super test taker!?!? The kid got a 2280 SAT and 33 ACT, you should be proud of that . Be practical, that’s a really good score
*</p>
<p>ha ha…I know those are good scores. What I meant was is that he’s never been one of these kids who gets ACT 35/36 or SAT 2350+ on first attempts. You know the types, the ones who can spank any standardized test. </p>
<p>Believe me, I am so glad he got the 32. I was just hoping for any score with a 3 in front. :)</p>
<p>* My son had a 3.8/3.8/39*</p>
<p>See, there’s a kid who can kill a test! 
Love it!</p>
<p>Thank you for all the recommendations! Writing them all down!</p>
<p>Twinkies!! No Kaplan class and a M! I asked my kid if she was sure English was her primary language. I don’t think she spent ten minutes on learning MCAT essay strategy. And I do appreciate your use of “Grrrrr”. I used it plenty of times myself over that damnable test. </p>
<p>Now, for the more important part. Congrats to the boy. Unless he blows off the apps, he is going to med school. Tulane is well within reach. Show them the love. As Eadad says: Forget Baylor and UTSW. UT-H, UTHSCSA, and UTMB are great schools if he wants to try Texas and his stats will get him a look. I really like the laid back atmosphere at Galveston, myself and my D liked their curriculum.</p>
<p>*M2CK, Does your son have any advice for those taking the exam in June or July? Was there anything he would have done differently knowing what he knows now after taking the test?
*</p>
<p>The only things that he would have done differently is he wouldn’t have taken the exam when he did. It was the Saturday before finals (ugh), and the day after some major projects were due (Chemical Engineering major). So, he didn’t feel as prepared as he could have been (which is why he was considering cancelling his test if he thought he did poorly).</p>
<p>And spend just a little time on learning some of Kaplan’s essay strategy. See my post above ^^^^. I think some kids (the word “some” including mine and hers 
) just think, “Why would I have to prep for that? I can write.”</p>
<p>CONGRATS!!</p>
<p>Over that 30 hump with some to spare!</p>
<p>I would also take gtown off the list but Duke might like his 4.0 and chem e. I would put Cornell and Mt. Sinai on. Probably take off SLU, put on Dartmouth, Miami, Temple, and some of the tippy’s that he might really like. Son loved Cornell but not Columbia.</p>
<p>UNC is tough as an OOS. Pretty ridiculous. ECU takes only in-state. Tons apply to Wake but they too will like his 4.0 chem e.</p>
<p>As far as the writing, son did not take any prep, just read the library book and scored an S. And I am sure he did not care. At all. His verbal was low so he was lopsided and THAT he did care about. </p>
<p>Son did have USC (Cali) on his list and one of his friends is at Case with very similar stats as your son. Don’t know how your son feels about Penn but it along with Cornell ended up at the top of son’s list. He did apply to more than 15 schools but with his lopsided scores he did not want to leave any stone unturned.</p>
<p>Again CONGRATS! and I do understand how he feels he could have done better, my son felt the same way.</p>
<p>Kat</p>
<p>Frankly, I do not think one can learn how to wirte in few weeks. You either a writer or not, you either sweat over re-writing papers in HS or you did not. I cannot see any other way to really improve either writing or reading. D. has always been a strong writier and not good Verbal (Reading) section test taker. It is just the way it is. The difference in ACT was the most striking. the highest - 35 for English and lowest - 28 for Reading, it was very reflective of her nature - she loves to write and does not care to read (novels).<br>
Take whatever it is, be proud of achievement, look forward, best wishes!</p>
<p>^^D2 explained that one of the reasons why she’s taking her MCAT in January is to duck the writing section–which is being discontinued in 2013.</p>
<p>Miami–one can learn to write with competently in a very short time. In a matter of a months if they are motivated to improve at it. (I used to teaching writing for living so I do what I’m talking about.) Some people have a better aptitude for writing than others, but unless one is completely incompetent in language fundamentals and reasoning skills, writing can be taught. Almost anyone can master the 5 paragraph essay format and turn out a competent, if not elegant, essay.</p>
<p>m2Ck - Some of these private schools being recommended are quite expensive. Are you ok with financing them?</p>
<p>What actually shocks me Alabama state schools want to charge 58k for OOS!</p>
<p>^^^</p>
<p>Yes…going to UAB OOS will cost about $80k total COA. Yikes! Instate is quite reasonable, which is why we’re hoping, hoping, hoping.</p>
<p>What about Drexel? Should that be on his list?</p>
<p>I don’t think Drexel has a secondary, I could be wrong. Son left Temple on the list and scratched Drexel.</p>
<p>He did interview early at Temple, got in and they do award merit scholies, BUT their COA is high, higher than the merit. However, Temple has brand new facilities and they were very warm and welcoming. They left a distinct impression upon him. Other facilities he interviewed at were oftentimes more rundown. Not that it was a huge issue, but gave him something to think about.</p>
<p>I think they do share hospitals with Penn, which mixes it up a bit. I am sure there are others who love Drexel, so have your son do some homework on that one.</p>
<p>Kat</p>
<p>Drexel does have a secondary–though it’s pretty short. (D1 applied there last year.)</p>
<p>Wake has a large number of applicants and a very low 3.1% admit rate. GW’s admit rate is also a very low 3.1 %. Georgetown’s is 3.6%.</p>
<p>Go ahead and apply, you also gotta play the numbers and apply effectively. (IOW, don’t waste time on lots of schools with low admit rates.)</p>
<p>ok…</p>
<p>UAB
USA
GWU
Tulane
Vandy
Emory
Duke
Drexel
Temple (or do they favor instate even though the SOM is private)
NYU ???
Tufts
BU
Albany
Hofstra
Cornell??? (may be toooo high of a reach)
One or two of the UTs - Curmy’s rec of Galveston is interesting since son is the laid back type.</p>
<p>Son would love to apply to USC Keck (since we’re native Californians), but since he’s ChemE, he doesn’t have all the Humanities that Keck seems to require.</p>