<p>I'm just curious here...</p>
<p>Around CC it seems to be general knowledge that it takes more than a 2400 to get into an Ivy.
For example. Students who have perfect or nearly perfect scores, perfect GPA's, but certainly lack in extra curriculars. They are obviously very intelligent people, but appear to adcoms as bland or one-sided. Maybe you have a 2340, a 35 ACT, and great SAT2s. You're first or second in your class. You ran track, and you play the cello, but that's it. </p>
<p>What sort of school would accept this student? Would he/she have a shot at an Ivy, based off of the scores alone, or are they really in trouble for most schools? How about a LAC, would they have any better luck?</p>
<p>I'm not describing myself, or anyone I know, I'm just curious to hear what people think.</p>
<p>less chance at LAC. LAC’s look at the person. Scores are important, but they are just numbers.</p>
<p>My bf got into Columbia. Ranked #2. SAT 2340. Waterpolo state champion. Not so many ECs, but his work in them were significant.</p>
<p>Prob. good chances for lower ivies like COrnell, dartmouth, brown; they emphasize SAT more than others. Slim chances at HYP.</p>
<p>brown had an 8% acceptance rate this year…I wouldn’t lump it into the “lower” category. That student however would have a good shot at Cornell, JHU, Duke, Northwestern, WUSTL level schools (ED at either of the three would help a ton).</p>
<p>^still, Brown is arguably THE worst ivy. Somehow it had a low acceptance rate probably because of tufts syndrome or some other factors. It is probably a consensus that Brown and Cornell are the “lower” ivies. Maybe not Dartmouth though.</p>
<p>“tufts syndrome” has nothing to do with acceptance rate…nobody applying to brown (reasonably) considers it a safety.</p>
<p>“tufts syndrome” effects the yield once the schools release their decisions and the students respond.</p>
<p>I agree with hannahj65.</p>
<p>You’ll probably have less of a chance at LACs since they like the person to be involved in activities, community service, interests/hobbies, etc. Basically, they want to get to know you behind the numbers. Sure, stellar test scores are great on paper, but what can you bring to the school? They pay attention to the whole.</p>
<p>“Brown is arguably THE worst ivy”</p>
<p>Comments like this make me laugh. i love how people have expert opinions.
I would be so happy to be admitted to brown. Sure, it may not be Harvard, but its certainly a wonderful school.</p>
<p>This might be off-topic, but so many people have tried to convince me that “getting a ~2200 is better than a 2400 because then you are more diverse in the adcom’s eyes.” Statements like that are so stupid. No one can give you a definite answer about what gets a person into “(insert tier 1 college)”, but the higher the SAT scores, the higher the GPA, the more MEANINGFUL EC’s, the higher the class rank, the harder the courses, and the better the essays are all contributing factors to your chances at any Ivy League school. </p>
<p>Oh and trying to rank ivy league schools is pretty dumb, it really depends on what type of a student you are, and what your interests are.</p>
<p>Haha, calling Brown a “lesser Ivy” reminds me of Blair Waldorf calling Princeton a “trade school” during the second season of gossip girl… though I do think that Brown may have more of an emphasis on scores than, say, Yale, I think that kid would have an uphill battle no matter what Ivy they aim for. </p>
<p>And the statement about test scores also seems ridiculous to me. How does doing worse make you more diverse?</p>
<p>“The higher the SAT scores, the higher the GPA, the more MEANINGFUL EC’s, the higher the class rank, the harder the courses, and the better the essays are all contributing factors to your chances at any Ivy League school.”</p>
<p>Completely agree with you.</p>
<p>Each ivy is different and has different values. Columbia wants different people then Yale and Brown wants different people the Harvard. All the people that get accepted are brilliant in their own way. Personality is a big part of it because that’s what makes you stand out in a crowd of tens of thousands of kids that have amazing grades and scores. Bland people usually don’t make it in because there is another person who applied with the same stats but has a personality.</p>
<p>The 2340 kid has a good shot assumign they didnt do track and cello just to get into college. Obviously you guys dnt know what youre talkign about.
If he/she was good at track and the cello then a very good shot.</p>