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<p>So there was a "black power" club is our school and some kids made a "white power" club and got into trouble. Do you think that's racist?</p>

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<p>I think any kind of racial power club is blatant racism, no matter what the race. All these clubs do is advocate the supremacy of one race over another.
However, I think is completely wrong that your school permitted a black power club and opposed a white power club. It really annoys me when something is okay for some people and is wrong for others. The whole double-standard has to stop.</p>

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<p>Racial solidarity is different from racism. If the "black power" club is racist (against whites, asians, or whoever) than yes, it is a double standard. But the "white power" club is trouble because it is a phrase associated with the KKK, etc. And to be blunt, white people don't need racial solidarity because they are not the minority and have never been oppressed.</p>

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white people don't need racial solidarity because they are not the minority and have never been oppressed.

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<p>That's not entirely true. White people have been oppressed for a very long time... by other white people. Just look at how the rich whites step all over the poor whites, then use racism to confuse the oppressed into complacency.</p>

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<p>So we need a poor power thing, like take everything from the opressing rich and distribute it equally among the poor, that sounds really good.</p>

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<p>Many minorities assume that all white people oppressed them. My relatives emigrated from Europe at the beginning of the 20th century. Therefore, my family lineage had nothing to do with slavery. </p>

<p>As for oppression, my family had to endure a lot. They had no easy life as Irish immigrants and faced their share of discrmination. My grandfather was the oldest of 11 kids and had to work as a kid just to support his family. He wasn't in any position to oppress anyone. That is why I think it is unfair to assume that all white people were slave owners and all white people come from rich families.</p>

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<p>Although I doubt the validity of this post, if they allow a black power club, they should allow a white power club as well.</p>

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<p>But there already is a white power club...</p>

<p>Basically all of America. Why should those who aren't marginalized start a group? I'm not averse to the group, mind you, but honestly, this whole double standard thing is a little ridiculous because there still is alot of inequity.</p>

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<p>I smell a troll due to the implausibility of the subject and to the fact that at least one other thread started by the OP -- one on the OP's allegedly cutting himself/herself -- was also a big attention getter. It included this post by the OP:</p>

<p>"thanks everybody who replied... I'm trying to control my cutting issue now, I realized how bad it is and how I'm only making it worse. Instead I started to burn things, I like how the fire eats up everyting, I get this really satisfying feeling inside... thanks again"</p>

<p>I also doubt that any school would allow a white power or a black power club because either would seem to be open to people of only one race.</p>

<p>There are things like "African American history" clubs, but those are open to everyone who's interested in the subject.</p>

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<p>Well, in that case these oppressed white people are not being oppressed becasue they are white but because they are poor. That's not really a racial issue.</p>

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Well, in that case these oppressed white people are not being oppressed becasue they are white but because they are poor. Not really a racial issue.

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<p>Racism, classism, sexism, religionism... They're all the same: people looking to divide and conquer for personal gain. It's not as if racism is a unique phenomenon in the rich history of history of human discrimination.</p>

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<p>No, they are not. Poor white people can turn into rich white people and thus can even become the oppressors themselves if they so choose. It's happened many times. Same with religion. But people can't change their race. They're stuck. Not the same situation.</p>

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<p>What if they made a white-history club though? Everyone knows that would never happen, and if it did then either the school would do something or the student would end up getting his face kicked in for being politically-incorrect.</p>

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<p>What would be the point of a white history club? Virtually all history that's taught in this country is white history.</p>

<p>Heck, many students take European history in h.s. and that's certainly white history.</p>

<p>If students wanted to form a European history club, that probably would be allowed.</p>

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Everything taught now is that the white man is responsible for everything that went wrong in this country (taking Indians land, slavery, etc) of course American History is white history, because America was founded by the white man.</p>

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<p>A white history club would have the same reason as that BU causasian scholarship; to make people angry and show absurdity in certain things.
Also, it wouldn't be a white history club, it would be a caucasian-american club, since most schools usually have african-american and asian-american clubs, not ones that are history clubs (even though they might talk about history of that race in it). Of course they are open to everyone, just as a caucasian would let everyone in, but a white club would be considered racist.</p>

<p>And yes, it is white history taught by the white man, but that white man is a very liberal white man, as joev stated. I remember learning about MLK for the first time when I was very young and it was like they were talking about Jesus Christ or something. In my school I think you can replace US History for AF-American History (or maybe its a minor), all I know is they have a Af-Am History class but no AP-US hist class</p>

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<p>American culture today includes feeling bad for minorities and rewarding them. Whites, believe it or not will soon be minorities in the near future.</p>

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<p>whites are already the minority on a world wide scale</p>

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No, they are not. Poor white people can turn into rich white people and thus can even become the oppressors themselves if they so choose. It's happened many times. Same with religion. But people can't change their race. They're stuck. Not the same situation.

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<p>Good point. But I don't think race is as set in stone as some people think they are. If you look back in history, there are white people in America here today who were not considered white (Germans, Irish, Italians). The "science" behind race is spotty at best (that Asian has small eyes, therefore he must be a total alien from the rest of us!), and I think the definitions can shift with the times.</p>

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Everything taught now is that the white man is responsible for everything that went wrong in this country (taking Indians land, slavery, etc) of course American History is white history, because America was founded by the white man.

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<p>That's not true and you know it. American children are taught to revere George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, Abe Lincoln, etc. </p>

<p>What would this hypothetical "white history club" have that the normal curriculum doesn't? If anything, it just sounds like an excuse for white racists to feel superior to everybody else by either denying imperialist atrocities or denigrating the cultures of other people. </p>

<p>And I don't think anybody here is opposed to a potential Italian History or English History or Greek History club. The only reason there's a generic African History club is because many African-Americans cannot trace back their ancestral roots because their forefathers were brought over as slaves. And aren't most African nations just meaningless creations of European imperialists? And I'm totally against the idea of an Asian-American History Club because the term "Asian" is extremely general.</p>

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<p>Sure, but it's still not the same thing. Definitions of race can evolve gradually over time, as you say "with the times." But that does not make oppression of poor people any more like oppression of members of a given race. Smart, industrious, or lucky poor people can, in the right circumstances, lift themselves out of poverty and even become rich over a period of years. But nobody can willfully choose to change their race to escape oppression or for any other reason. The fact that society may have redfined who is "white" over a century or so is of scant help to any given oppressed individual.</p>