<p>At UVA they said that the CC students transferred in had a 3.0 GPA whereas 4-year transfers had a 3.1. </p>
<p>Don't think that you can achieve a 4.0 at a CC and do the same thing at the school you transfer into, especially if its a top 25. From what I've heard/asked CC students have roughly the same grades as other transfers once transferring in.</p>
<p>"Who would want the attention of a CC prof anyways?"</p>
<p>For the record, I had/have a brilliant math professor (from whom I am getting a recommendation) who lived in Cali before moving here and lectured at USC/Cal/UCLA. It shows. I wouldn't say all CC profs are undesirable for teachers. But other than that, all of my professors have been lackluster...nice, but I wasn't impressed and didn't feel like their teachings were necessary for my success in the class.</p>
<p>wow brand destroyed me on the post count.</p>
<p>I Need Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>:D</p>
<p>I got like 10 years till I can catch up with him</p>
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For the record, I had/have a brilliant math professor (from whom I am getting a recommendation) who lived in Cali before moving here and lectured at USC/Cal/UCLA. It shows.
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<p>Such persons are a rarety. Either those professors who come from top schools are altruistic in wanting to help students in CC, or they are trying to escape the pressure to publish, which is among the requirements for becoming a tenured professor at a top institution. That is not a negative trait; I know many professors who graduated from top schools, but chose the modest route because they do not want to bother with the politics of journals and tenure and top institutions.</p>
<p>True, two of my profs said they left their posts at a 4-year univ (Vandy and Uof M) because they didnt want to do research, and simply wanted to have teaching be their only concern.</p>
<p>He has published in several math journals alongside some professors from 4 year universities...Joel Smoller and Blake Temple? I understand they all worked together on a piece called "Solving the Einstein equations by Lipschitz continuous metrics: Shock waves in general relativity."</p>
<p>I'd have to look again to see where they were from but I know Smoller held a seminar at Stanford (not sure if Mr. Groah was with him). I'm not really sure why he's here...he said housing was cheap and he wanted to get out of Cali :D</p>
<p>Regardless, one can tell from speaking with him (and taking his class) that he's brilliant. I agree, though, that such persons are a rarety as I have yet to have any other professors that I'd even consider to be in the same league, academically. </p>
<p>But yes, in this case, I would definitely want the attention of a CC professor.</p>
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<p>They should have gone to an LAC. Hah.</p>
<p>Oh well, it comes with the territory.</p>
<p>my cc have many great math professors i think. Many of them were former UC. professors and some of them either worked or is working at JPL.</p>
<p>and just to give people some hope about grades after transferring:
one of the student at my CC who transferred to Caltech is still getting a 4.0 majoring in EE (4.0 at CC too) and she's now in her senior year there.</p>
<p>Yeah I'm sure some students from CCs will see a drop in their GPA, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that if you are a CC student you won't be able to keep up your current GPA. </p>
<p>I think colleges believe that CC students can do the work just as successfully as current students or I don't see why they'd accept them at all.</p>
<p>"I think colleges believe that CC students can do the work just as successfully as current students or I don't see why they'd accept them at all."</p>
<p>I second that. Many schools aren't forced to take CC students, so when CC students are accepted into top schools, it is because adcoms believe they can do the work at their institution just as well as anyone else.</p>
<p>i went to uci for a quarter so i can fairly compare :)</p>
<p>i would have to say at a CC the general ed courses are pretty simple. at uci they actually expect something from you. infact in my writing sequence i the teacher i had at uci taught at the local jc. and knowing her i took her at the jc. it wow, she was very lenient.</p>
<p>i honestly belive if your a science related major, transferring in is fine. lower divison math and physics and bio stays the same, i mean how much new **** comes out for them to publish a new book within a year of time. at a jc ive also come to enjoy the fact my teachers dont have such thick accents.</p>
<p>for me i feel as if a uc just gives me employment and research oppurtunities. hah thats what im really paying for. i could care less if the guy has 2000 papers and is a nobel prize winner. if he cant teach its not worth it</p>
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<p>Well... you have the current and previous CC transfer admits to thank for that. Universities keep track of their transfers and their transfers' GPAs. CC transfers are permitted because they have proven themselves in a university-setting.</p>
<p>This should also be a fairly obvious point: not all CC students can do the work at top universities; being a CC student does not prevent you in principle from accomplishing what you want, but there is no way that every CC student has this sort of ability.</p>
<p>Once and for All: What is Easier - CC or 4-Year?</p>
<p>From WashU's wesbite: (<a href="http://admissions.wustl.edu/admissions/ua.nsf/3rd%20Level%20Pages_FAQ_FAQ_Transfer.htm?OpenPage&charset=iso-8859-1%5B/url%5D">http://admissions.wustl.edu/admissions/ua.nsf/3rd%20Level%20Pages_FAQ_FAQ_Transfer.htm?OpenPage&charset=iso-8859-1</a>)</p>
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The strongest candidates for transfer admission to Washington University must have earned at least a B+ average from a two-year college, and at least a B average from a four-year college in courses across a broad academic curriculum."
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<p>Which implies that it is easier to get higher GPA at a CC, and thus CC academics are viewed as easier than 4 yr unis by WashU...this opinion is probably reflective of that of other top universities, and their opinion is really the only one that matters.</p>
<p>my gpa at a cc for a year: 3.80
my gpa at a 4-year university for a year: 3.85</p>
<p>i think i just tried harder at the 4-year university. i honestly should've gotten a 4.0 at my cc, but i didn't work hard at all.</p>
<p>which 4 year university do you go to forgiven? (sorry for being nosy!)</p>
<p>He goes to UMich.</p>
<p>oops, sorry about that.</p>
<p>cc for 1 yr: 3.8
rutgers univ for 1 yr: 3.85
umich (first semester here): i don't think i'll be getting anywhere near a 3.8 -_-</p>
<p>lol oops sorry didn't know you'd gone to Rutgers before Michigan.</p>
<p>So how do you compare the work at Michigan to that at your CC and Rutgers?</p>