<p>So the online app for this year is up. Anyone else create their account and look through/start yet? It seems that there are 2 parts (basic info, then essays and ecs) that can be submitted at different times. When I looked into the second part, it starts with "Thank you for completing Part I." I know I haven't submitted the first part yet, but I can get into the second. There's no reason I can't get started on the second part, right? Even though it assumes that you sent in the other part already?</p>
<p>How do you get to Part 2 without submitting Part 1? I can't figure it out...</p>
<p>Yeah, I'm sure you can start filling out Part 2.</p>
<p>If you click on main, in the upper right hand corner when you are in part 1, you can just go into part 2. Or when you first log in, both links are there with its status.</p>
<p>I've started filling mine out and have ALREADY run into problems.</p>
<p>When it says "succinctly describe 3-5 of your greatest accomplishments", there's a very small word limit. How am I supposed to condense long words like "quarterfinalist" and "semifinalist" or "national debate tournament" to make it fit??</p>
<p>Any advice, anyone?!</p>
<p>My God, I know! I'm doing that right now, and I can't fit everything! ARG.</p>
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How am I supposed to condense long words like "quarterfinalist" and "semifinalist" or "national debate tournament" to make it fit??
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<p>QF, Nat'l Debate Tourney</p>
<p>SemiFinals, Nat'l Debate Tourn.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>The reason I was asking was not to be self-serving, Columbia2002. It's just that there are 3 different "national" tournaments for debate and forensics, and I wanted to make sure I was accurate and wasn't claiming awards that I hadn't received.</p>
<p>This is exactly the reason why I'm submitting a Paper App. So it doesnt limit ur actual character imput -_-'</p>
<p>yeah, I didn't submit it yet, and I started doing part 2. I might do a paper app, though, 'cause of the character limits.</p>
<p>They ask for what you did during the summer for two different years. What if I had no transportation till the end of the summer before my junior year (I have a summer birthday, so I couldn't get my license till a few weeks before school started), and thus all I did was train for sports and be lazy (and go to a wedding)? Do I put the travel thing for going to the wedding? I'm confused</p>
<p>Oh, wow, a paper app sounds tempting now... I'd be able to squeeze in more information.
But I don't know. It says they strongly encourage applying online... And I can almost fit everything I want...</p>
<p>I have my sister's wedding next week -- But I didn't really think that was the kind of activity you would list (in the summer section).
Is it?</p>
<p>One unrelated thing: Can you apply ED to Columbia and EA to one other school? Has anyone done this in the past/thinking about doing it this year?
I think it said it's discouraged, but would Columbia see the other school that I'd be applying to, because if that's so, I don't know if I would do it, since I want them to know that Columbia is my first choice...</p>
<p>if you have an ED application somewhere, that's the only application you can have out, I believe. not positive, though</p>
<p>Yes, you can (if the other school allows it).</p>
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According to National Association for College Admissions Counseling guidelines, “while pursuing admission under an Early Decision plan, students may apply to other institutions, but may have only one Early Decision application pending at any time.” While Columbia does not necessarily encourage the filing of both Early Decision (binding) and Early Action (non-binding) applications, we do not prohibit candidates from doing so. However, candidates should be aware that Columbia’s Early Decision program is a binding agreement and a candidate will be expected to enroll, regardless of any pending applications (early or otherwise).
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One unrelated thing: Can you apply ED to Columbia and EA to one other school? Has anyone done this in the past/thinking about doing it this year?
I think it said it's discouraged, but would Columbia see the other school that I'd be applying to, because if that's so, I don't know if I would do it, since I want them to know that Columbia is my first choice...
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<p>I applied ED to Columbia and EA to Harvard. At the latter I was deferred so I never had to make the choice; my Columbia acceptance arrived a few hours later. A few months later I was jittery about Columbia and began exploring ways to pull out of the ED bind. I've known others who have done it before (left a Columbia ED acceptance for Harvard), and Columbia knows it has no real way to ensnare you within ED. They wound up telling me endlessly how amazing they thought my application was and getting faculty at my school to put pressure on me.</p>
<p>i wouldnt suggest doing that....cause the school you apply EA to can rescind your admission for trying to cheat the system and i think columbia would fine you some amount of money.</p>
<p>Admittedly it requires luck and deft negotiation, but the point was that ED is not complete bondage.</p>
<p>Yeah, nevermind though.</p>
<p>The school I wanted to apply EA to was Georgetown, but I was reading their undergraduate prospectus, and it said that they don't allow you to apply EA when you have an ED pending.</p>
<p>Oh well.</p>
<p>Luck, deft negotiation, and a lack of principles.</p>
<p>C2007: You know what ED is when you go into it. If you don't want binding, don't use it. It's unfair to the other students who play by the rules.</p>
<p>Yea... uh, they can definitely screw you over if you dont have a legitimate reason to pull out of ED... (i.e Financial Aid)</p>
<p>Unfair to other students in what way? The worst that could have happened was that they had an extra spot to offer to someone. Financial aid was not a consideration for me, though I can't see how failing to offer it to me would have mattered had I chosen not to attend. And they would have certainly kept the lid on it to ensure word of it didn't become widespread, as they've done in the past. </p>
<p>Of course I don't recommend it, but I don't see how it entailed a "lack of principles" on my (or anyone else's) part, beyond "breaking the honor code" or whatever. Colleges want to keep you in awe of their power as if they're endowed with the majesty of a real, enforceable legal system. They're not.</p>
<p>In any case I think my predecessor who jumped to Harvard made the wrong choice.</p>
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i wouldnt suggest doing that....cause the school you apply EA to can rescind your admission for trying to cheat the system and i think columbia would fine you some amount of money.
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<p>Um, how do they plan on making you pay? I've never heard of such cacamamie.</p>