<p>Here’s a link to today’s Daily Pennsylvanian story about ED admit rates for the class of 2010: <a href=“http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/01/09/43c216604ee43[/url]”>http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/01/09/43c216604ee43</a></p>
<p>damn, ED acceptance rate for Wharton was 18.6%; no wonder I was deferred. Wow, Wharton's harder to get into than Harvard and Yale now.</p>
<p>actually, maybe not Yale, but definitely harder than Harvard.</p>
<p>did you see some of the comments left on the article. Some kids are bastards</p>
<p>so I wonder if that means the percentage of the frosh class admitted ED is lower now or if its all just in relation to the increase in applications</p>
<p>Hmmm, they said they had a diverse pool and so they accepted more kids than last year. It all depends on how many people apply RD. I think that the amount of RD applicants will remain the same regardless...which means less open seats, which means a harsher admit rate. </p>
<p>Alot of strong applicants applied early and even stronger ones will apply RD, so gl every1! If you're worried that you aren't steller, just remember that Penn weighs the essay heavily...it's really important and kids with bad essays and 1600/4.0/saved 1000 children get rejected</p>
<p>My regional director told me that 1/3 of the class was rejected so by my math- that's 1382.6 students rejected and from that article, 2968 did not get in all together, which leaves 1586 that were deferred approximately. Being included in a deferral pile that is so large or at least by my view makes me that much more nervous, because now we REALLY need to stand out. Also, since Penn traditionally takes 14% of deferrals (my director told me that), that means that 222 of us will ultimately be lucky.</p>
<p>18.6% for Wharton 2010 huh? That's the rough estimate someone got, not bad...</p>
<p>"actually, maybe not Yale, but definitely harder than Harvard."</p>
<p>Nothing against Wharton students, but the Harvard applicant pool is definitely more accomplished--you're talking about people who have been recognized on the national level for everything from music to science. Harvard's EA rate may have been slightly higher than Wharton's, but that doesn't make Harvard "easier" to get into. </p>
<p>Again, nothing against Wharton students, but let's not delude ourselves. Harvard is Harvard (and Yale is Yale, for that matter).</p>
<p>i totaly agree with jpps1. i'm sorry wharton kids (and some other delusional penn kids)....get over yourselves and accept that harvard is harvard.</p>
<p>I wonder what the rates are for valedictorians. I just heard today that Princeton rejected 82% of its early vals while Brown rejected 70%! This type of strange discrimination really hurts me--that schools can be so elite that they reject vals just to say that they can. I am scared but I was wondering if Penn did something similar (speaking as a deferred val).</p>
<p>"This type of strange discrimination really hurts me--that schools can be so elite that they reject vals just to say that they can."</p>
<p>They reject many vals because they have a void for a personality, not so they can say they reject valedictorians (a ludicrous idea--why would you discourage some of the brightest minds from applying). Also, there are tens of thousands of high schools in the U.S., meaning that there are just as many (even more, because of ties) valedictorians. It's common sense that many will not get in, because universities like to have a diverse class.</p>
<p>Trust me, I am not lacking in the "real person" personality department. The statistic was rather stifling and I still feel that vals can be put at a disadvantage because when there are so many to choose from, the ones who are "worse" get the shaft. This occurs even if they might be a better candidate then say a number 3 or 4 person in a class. I wish that the admissions committe could see that I also have a life--unlike some of the other people that apply (whom you were probably speaking of).</p>
<p>this isn't completely true, but some vals take easier classes and get a higher GPA than others who take many, many AP classes</p>
<p>three legged dogs, thats all i have to say</p>
<p>By the way, did I mention that it's ridiculous to say that Ivies are biased against vals? Sure, Brown rejects almost 70%, but that means they accept about 30%. Isn't their overall acceptance rate about 16%?</p>
<p>Compare the valedictorian acceptance rate--33% for the class of 2009--to the acceptance rate for students ranked third--20%. I don't see how valedictorians are at any disadvantage...</p>
<p>It is difficult for me to speak very objectively because my bias is obvious. I was just ignorant to the percentages. My principal told me these numbers today because a school in the county is considering eliminating their ranking system for this reason (among others I am sure).</p>
<p>im sorry but how did we arrive at 18.6% for wharton. it doesnt say anywhere how many people applied to the wharton school.</p>
<p>A while back, Penn released the info about number of applicants to each school in the Daily Pennsylvanian. For Wharton, it was 1086.</p>
<p>Now to respond to some of the other posters: not to take anything away from Harvard, and what you say about Harvard applicants being more accomplished may all be true...3-5 years ago. But today, Wharton applicants are just as competitive and accomplished. And the difference in early acceptance rates shows that this year. Harvard- 28%, Wharton- 18%. Sorry, but 10% isn't slightly higher.</p>
<p>Where do you get that 28% from??? Every source I've found pegs it between 21 and 23%. The fact is, when you have every Siemens/Intel/IMO/NMS finalist/winner applying (not to mention published authors, VERY high-powered legacies and other notables), of course many will get accepted. Compare the student bodies--Harvard's student body is much more accomplished academically. Even athletes (not basketball or football) are better at Harvard than Penn.</p>
<p>You might as well call Wharton students about equal with CAS students, due to their very similar RD acceptance rates (and I know you won't concede this point). While you're at it, I guess UChicago's students are less accomplished than NYU students, since NYU has a lower acceptance rate.</p>
<p>Basing your opinion of a student body on acceptance rates is wrong. Wharton students may be the best students outside of Harvard, but Harvard kids are really on a whole different level.</p>